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did any one see the case about a woman killing herself because of the bedroom tax :y :y
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Thumbs up?? :o :o
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did any one see the case about a woman killing herself because of the bedroom tax :y :y
Thumbs up?? :o :o
Yeah I guess a suicide is a good thing in Ralf's world :o
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did any one see the case about a woman killing herself because of the bedroom tax :y :y
Thumbs up?? :o :o
Yeah I guess a suicide is a good thing in Ralf's world :o
i didn't say it was a good thing did i . just waiting for it to happen :( :( and this govremet dond care anyway >:( >:(
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The " :y" does stand for a good thing ???
Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.
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The " :y" does stand for a good thing ???
Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.
well some people cant aforde the extra they got to pay .maybe she thought it was the only way out . so ok i put the wrong thing on there . so you dont make misstakes do you , should have been these >:( >:( >:(
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So the bedroom tax is:
Bedroom Tax (also known as "Spare Bed Room Tax") is a change to Housing Benefit Entitlement that means you will receive less in housing benefit if you live in a housing association or council property that is deemed to have one or more spare bedrooms.
Having one spare bedroom will mean you will lose 14% of your entitled housing benefit.
Having two or more spare bedrooms will mean you will lose 25% of your entitlement.
This new tax will started affecting properties with spare bed rooms in April 2013.
With the following rules:
Children of both sexes under 10 would be expected to share a bedroom. If they currently do not share and they remain in separate rooms, one of their rooms will be considered as a spare bedroom.
Children of the same gender under 16 would be expected to share a bedroom.
Couples and adults are entitled to have bedrooms of their own.
If a bedroom (with or without furniture) is kept free for when a child comes to stay with a parent that they do not normally live with, this room will be considered as a spare bedroom.
Bedroom Tax allowance for a child can only be claimed by one parent, even where they share access to the child.
Extra bedrooms for medical reasons will not be allowed and will still be taxable e.g. a couple using separate bedrooms because one of them is ill or recovering from an operation.
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So if you have spare rooms, you have to pay for them? (shock!) Well I want a house, I have to pay more for a house than I do for my flat, why should people in benefits be any different?
People wanting everything on a plate and not willing to pay for it :(
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The " :y" does stand for a good thing ???
Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.
You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/bangshead.gif)
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So the bedroom tax is:
Bedroom Tax (also known as "Spare Bed Room Tax") is a change to Housing Benefit Entitlement that means you will receive less in housing benefit if you live in a housing association or council property that is deemed to have one or more spare bedrooms.
Having one spare bedroom will mean you will lose 14% of your entitled housing benefit.
Having two or more spare bedrooms will mean you will lose 25% of your entitlement.
This new tax will started affecting properties with spare bed rooms in April 2013.
With the following rules:
Children of both sexes under 10 would be expected to share a bedroom. If they currently do not share and they remain in separate rooms, one of their rooms will be considered as a spare bedroom.
Children of the same gender under 16 would be expected to share a bedroom.
Couples and adults are entitled to have bedrooms of their own.
If a bedroom (with or without furniture) is kept free for when a child comes to stay with a parent that they do not normally live with, this room will be considered as a spare bedroom.
Bedroom Tax allowance for a child can only be claimed by one parent, even where they share access to the child.
Extra bedrooms for medical reasons will not be allowed and will still be taxable e.g. a couple using separate bedrooms because one of them is ill or recovering from an operation.
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So if you have spare rooms, you have to pay for them? (shock!) Well I want a house, I have to pay more for a house than I do for my flat, why should people in benefits be any different?
People wanting everything on a plate and not willing to pay for it :(
bed room tax is another way to hit the poor and disabled . end of story >:( >:( >:(
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The " :y" does stand for a good thing ???
Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.
You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/bangshead.gif)
no he is missing mine as normal >:( >:(
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The " :y" does stand for a good thing ???
Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.
You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/bangshead.gif)
no he is missing mine as normal >:( >:(
Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.
Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.
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The " :y" does stand for a good thing ???
Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.
You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/bangshead.gif)
no he is missing mine as normal >:( >:(
Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.
Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.
they are not a luxury to me . i haven't got a spare room its a little box room not big enough for a bed >:( >:(and by the way theres no two bedroom houses or flats where i live anyway :( :( and not everyone on benefits because they want to be . i would rather be working but no one will give me a job >:( >:(
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The " :y" does stand for a good thing ???
Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.
You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/bangshead.gif)
no he is missing mine as normal >:( >:(
Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.
Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.
The council has a duty to get 'best value' from it's housing stock, so three spare bedrooms is obviously an indulgence.
However, surely everybody should be allowed 'one' spare bedroom without the council putting the boot in.......people on benefits have family and friends, too.
It is a nasty tax, aimed at the poorest in society, who in the main, have no smaller alternative property to move to. :-\
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The " :y" does stand for a good thing ???
Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.
You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/bangshead.gif)
no he is missing mine as normal >:( >:(
Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.
Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.
The council has a duty to get 'best value' from it's housing stock, so three spare bedrooms is obviously an indulgence.
However, surely everybody should be allowed 'one' spare bedroom without the council putting the boot in.......people on benefits have family and friends, too.
It is a nasty tax, aimed at the poorest in society. :-\
i am glad some one sees my point of view :y :y
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The " :y" does stand for a good thing ???
Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.
You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/bangshead.gif)
no he is missing mine as normal >:( >:(
Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.
Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.
The council has a duty to get 'best value' from it's housing stock, so three spare bedrooms is obviously an indulgence.
However, surely everybody should be allowed 'one' spare bedroom without the council putting the boot in.......people on benefits have family and friends, too.
It is a nasty tax, aimed at the poorest in society, who in the main, have no smaller alternative property to move to. :-\
I don't have one, I have a job, I worked 60 hour week last week due to covering someone leaving.
I own a 1 bed flat, I'd love a spare bedroom for guests/office, surely I "deserve" one? My mortgage is a considerable 4 figure sum, which is considerably more than this "tax"
So where the f*k is my spare box room ::)
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what ever the cause or the point...very sad that this women thought this was the only way out :'(
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The " :y" does stand for a good thing ???
Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.
You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/bangshead.gif)
no he is missing mine as normal >:( >:(
Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.
Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.
The council has a duty to get 'best value' from it's housing stock, so three spare bedrooms is obviously an indulgence.
However, surely everybody should be allowed 'one' spare bedroom without the council putting the boot in.......people on benefits have family and friends, too.
It is a nasty tax, aimed at the poorest in society, who in the main, have no smaller alternative property to move to. :-\
I don't have one, I have a job, I worked 60 hour week last week due to covering someone leaving.
I own a 1 bed flat, I'd love a spare bedroom for guests/office, surely I "deserve" one? My mortgage is a considerable 4 figure sum, which is considerably more than this "tax"
So where the f*k is my spare box room ::)
you want to be glad you can work . some of us cant . allso we want to :( :(
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The " :y" does stand for a good thing ???
Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.
You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/bangshead.gif)
no he is missing mine as normal >:( >:(
Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.
Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.
The council has a duty to get 'best value' from it's housing stock, so three spare bedrooms is obviously an indulgence.
However, surely everybody should be allowed 'one' spare bedroom without the council putting the boot in.......people on benefits have family and friends, too.
It is a nasty tax, aimed at the poorest in society, who in the main, have no smaller alternative property to move to. :-\
I don't have one, I have a job, I worked 60 hour week last week due to covering someone leaving.
I own a 1 bed flat, I'd love a spare bedroom for guests/office, surely I "deserve" one? My mortgage is a considerable 4 figure sum, which is considerably more than this "tax"
So where the f*k is my spare box room ::)
But your shag pad is situated in Westminster or Chelsea ( or some similarly affluent borough of planet London), Mr Tunnie. ;D ;D.Therefore, a four figure mortgage should only allow you one room in total....... 'the broom cupboard'. ;D ;)
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The " :y" does stand for a good thing ???
Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.
You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/bangshead.gif)
no he is missing mine as normal >:( >:(
Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.
Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.
The council has a duty to get 'best value' from it's housing stock, so three spare bedrooms is obviously an indulgence.
However, surely everybody should be allowed 'one' spare bedroom without the council putting the boot in.......people on benefits have family and friends, too.
It is a nasty tax, aimed at the poorest in society, who in the main, have no smaller alternative property to move to. :-\
I don't have one, I have a job, I worked 60 hour week last week due to covering someone leaving.
I own a 1 bed flat, I'd love a spare bedroom for guests/office, surely I "deserve" one? My mortgage is a considerable 4 figure sum, which is considerably more than this "tax"
So where the f*k is my spare box room ::)
But your shag pad is situated in Westminster or Chelsea ( or some similarly affluent borough of planet London), Mr Tunnie. ;D ;D.Therefore, a four figure mortgage should only allow you one room in total....... 'the broom cupboard'. ;D ;)
I wish! ;D ;D ;D
A mate used to live within 5 minutes walk of Westminster, his rent was more than my mortgage :o :o ;D
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The " :y" does stand for a good thing ???
Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.
You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/bangshead.gif)
no he is missing mine as normal >:( >:(
Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.
Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.
The council has a duty to get 'best value' from it's housing stock, so three spare bedrooms is obviously an indulgence.
However, surely everybody should be allowed 'one' spare bedroom without the council putting the boot in.......people on benefits have family and friends, too.
It is a nasty tax, aimed at the poorest in society, who in the main, have no smaller alternative property to move to. :-\
I don't have one, I have a job, I worked 60 hour week last week due to covering someone leaving.
I own a 1 bed flat, I'd love a spare bedroom for guests/office, surely I "deserve" one? My mortgage is a considerable 4 figure sum, which is considerably more than this "tax"
So where the f*k is my spare box room ::)
But your shag pad is situated in Westminster or Chelsea ( or some similarly affluent borough of planet London), Mr Tunnie. ;D ;D.Therefore, a four figure mortgage should only allow you one room in total....... 'the broom cupboard'. ;D ;)
I wish! ;D ;D ;D
A mate used to live within 5 minutes walk of Westminster, his rent was more than my mortgage :o :o ;D
.....you must go to the same parties as those 'Made in Chelsea' girlies. :y :D :D ;)
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The " :y" does stand for a good thing ???
Either way, for someone to end their life over the so called bedroom tax, points to some other serious issues in their life. It must have been the final straw in a long list of reasons, just sensationalism from media to pin it solely on that tax.
You're missing tunnie's point here Rolf ... (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/43954633/bangshead.gif)
no he is missing mine as normal >:( >:(
Spare bedrooms are a luxury, why should someone who lives on benefits in a 4 bedroom house, should have 3 spare? If you want them to be spare, pay for the privilege, otherwise let someone who needsthose rooms use that house. Its not really a tax is it? Its just a reduction in the benefit you get.
Also as above, its the road leading up to a suicide which is the real cause.
The council has a duty to get 'best value' from it's housing stock, so three spare bedrooms is obviously an indulgence.
However, surely everybody should be allowed 'one' spare bedroom without the council putting the boot in.......people on benefits have family and friends, too.
It is a nasty tax, aimed at the poorest in society, who in the main, have no smaller alternative property to move to. :-\
I don't have one, I have a job, I worked 60 hour week last week due to covering someone leaving.
I own a 1 bed flat, I'd love a spare bedroom for guests/office, surely I "deserve" one? My mortgage is a considerable 4 figure sum, which is considerably more than this "tax"
So where the f*k is my spare box room ::)
But your shag pad is situated in Westminster or Chelsea ( or some similarly affluent borough of planet London), Mr Tunnie. ;D ;D.Therefore, a four figure mortgage should only allow you one room in total....... 'the broom cupboard'. ;D ;)
I wish! ;D ;D ;D
A mate used to live within 5 minutes walk of Westminster, his rent was more than my mortgage :o :o ;D
.....you must go to the same parties as those 'Made in Chelsea' girlies. :y :D :D ;)
I thought he was one of the Made in Chelsea Girlies ;D ;D ;D :-*
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Well I do have the body for it :-*
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Well I do have the body for it :-*
Don't tell LuckyLovebum that or he'll be round with a gleam in his eye!!! :o ;D
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you all know what my feelings on this are please read this post on the telly « 1 2 3 4 5 All »
this bennefit cut is not fair on people like me who through no fault of there own areunable to work andthere house has been adapted so they can live in it plus there wife or partner has to sleep in the spare bedroom please read the post
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Well I do have the body for it :-*
Don't tell LuckyLovebum that or he'll be round with a gleam in his eye!!! :o ;D
and a smile on his face :) :)
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you all know what my feelings on this are please read this post on the telly « 1 2 3 4 5 All »
this bennefit cut is not fair on people like me who through no fault of there own areunable to work andthere house has been adapted so they can live in it plus there wife or partner has to sleep in the spare bedroom please read the post
no tunnie cant see that side of it . because he has never been in that situation as he has always been healthy and i hope he never has to look at that side of it .when you got no choice but to go on benefits . >:( >:(
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I'm sorry, but I'm with tunnie here, just don't ever tell him that I agree with him.
The benefits system is a (unsustainable) method to provide people with a fallback in their hour of need. Or at least should be. It has become, over the past decade or 2, a gravy train for many. It should not provide more than is absolutely necessary.
Its absolutely right that those in social housing should be encouraged in to more appropriate, cost effective housing, freeing up the larger houses for those that need it. Or if they don't want to downsize, they have to pay for the luxury.
I'm sure in tunnie's mind, he works very hard pressing buttons for 60hrs a week to be able to pay for his 1 bedroom flat in shitsville. So I can fully see why he thinks its wrong that he cannot have friends or family to stay, yet those in social housing can.
No offence intended to anyone here.
Back to OP, the woman clearly must have had further issues, if the thought of downsizing was enough to make her want to end it all.
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I'm sorry, but I'm with tunnie here, just don't ever tell him that I agree with him.
The benefits system is a (unsustainable) method to provide people with a fallback in their hour of need. Or at least should be. It has become, over the past decade or 2, a gravy train for many. It should not provide more than is absolutely necessary.
Its absolutely right that those in social housing should be encouraged in to more appropriate, cost effective housing, freeing up the larger houses for those that need it. Or if they don't want to downsize, they have to pay for the luxury.
I'm sure in tunnie's mind, he works very hard pressing buttons for 60hrs a week to be able to pay for his 1 bedroom flat in shitsville. So I can fully see why he thinks its wrong that he cannot have friends or family to stay, yet those in social housing can.
No offence intended to anyone here.
Back to OP, the woman clearly must have had further issues, if the thought of downsizing was enough to make her want to end it all.
But it's only council tenants on benefits who are being forced to either downsize or pay more. Council tenants who pay their own rent can have as many 'free bedrooms' as they wish.
Hmmm. Something not consistent here. :-\
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I'm sorry, but I'm with tunnie here, just don't ever tell him that I agree with him.
The benefits system is a (unsustainable) method to provide people with a fallback in their hour of need. Or at least should be. It has become, over the past decade or 2, a gravy train for many. It should not provide more than is absolutely necessary.
Its absolutely right that those in social housing should be encouraged in to more appropriate, cost effective housing, freeing up the larger houses for those that need it. Or if they don't want to downsize, they have to pay for the luxury.
I'm sure in tunnie's mind, he works very hard pressing buttons for 60hrs a week to be able to pay for his 1 bedroom flat in shitsville. So I can fully see why he thinks its wrong that he cannot have friends or family to stay, yet those in social housing can.
No offence intended to anyone here.
Back to OP, the woman clearly must have had further issues, if the thought of downsizing was enough to make her want to end it all.
But it's only council tenants on benefits who are being forced to either downsize or pay more. Council tenants who pay their own rent can have as many 'free bedrooms' as they wish.
Hmmm. Something not consistent here. :-\
I assume tho' that they pay for the privlidge .... ie a 4 bed costs more than a 3 bed / etc
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I'm sorry, but I'm with tunnie here, just don't ever tell him that I agree with him.
The benefits system is a (unsustainable) method to provide people with a fallback in their hour of need. Or at least should be. It has become, over the past decade or 2, a gravy train for many. It should not provide more than is absolutely necessary.
Its absolutely right that those in social housing should be encouraged in to more appropriate, cost effective housing, freeing up the larger houses for those that need it. Or if they don't want to downsize, they have to pay for the luxury.
I'm sure in tunnie's mind, he works very hard pressing buttons for 60hrs a week to be able to pay for his 1 bedroom flat in shitsville. So I can fully see why he thinks its wrong that he cannot have friends or family to stay, yet those in social housing can.
No offence intended to anyone here.
Back to OP, the woman clearly must have had further issues, if the thought of downsizing was enough to make her want to end it all.
But it's only council tenants on benefits who are being forced to either downsize or pay more. Council tenants who pay their own rent can have as many 'free bedrooms' as they wish.
Hmmm. Something not consistent here. :-\
I believe that some councils are making it a condition that new tenants can be moved when and if their circumstances
change in the future. :-\
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I'm sorry, but I'm with tunnie here, just don't ever tell him that I agree with him.
The benefits system is a (unsustainable) method to provide people with a fallback in their hour of need. Or at least should be. It has become, over the past decade or 2, a gravy train for many. It should not provide more than is absolutely necessary.
Its absolutely right that those in social housing should be encouraged in to more appropriate, cost effective housing, freeing up the larger houses for those that need it. Or if they don't want to downsize, they have to pay for the luxury.
I'm sure in tunnie's mind, he works very hard pressing buttons for 60hrs a week to be able to pay for his 1 bedroom flat in shitsville. So I can fully see why he thinks its wrong that he cannot have friends or family to stay, yet those in social housing can.
No offence intended to anyone here.
Back to OP, the woman clearly must have had further issues, if the thought of downsizing was enough to make her want to end it all.
Tunnie could always buy a bigger bed......3/4 somes can be interesting, so im told :-X ;D ;D
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so where dose my wife sleep if we move to a 2 bed house or my son and who pays the £40.000 it cost for the adaptions so i can live in my house or do i move into a home for the
the infirm and have no life whats so ever because im disabled amongst other things im being made to feel like a outcast again
i dont want to fallout with anybody over this but each case has got to be taken on its merrits and dont tar everybody with the same brush there are a lot of people that for a better word flout the system ive seen this for myself in the past 14 days and this has tacken presidence over genuine claimers so we are all in the eyes of this goverment scroungers until proved outherwise
i agree if somone living in a 3 bed house on their own should be asked to downsize its only fair equaly there are plenty of familiys that are living in a 2bed house that clearly need a bigger house but there is not the housing stock available
lpke ive said i dont want to argue about this or fall out with anybody life is too short well mine is anyway but thats another story
dont anybody fall out over this its not worth it :) :)
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I'm sorry, but I'm with tunnie here, just don't ever tell him that I agree with him.
The benefits system is a (unsustainable) method to provide people with a fallback in their hour of need. Or at least should be. It has become, over the past decade or 2, a gravy train for many. It should not provide more than is absolutely necessary.
Its absolutely right that those in social housing should be encouraged in to more appropriate, cost effective housing, freeing up the larger houses for those that need it. Or if they don't want to downsize, they have to pay for the luxury.
I'm sure in tunnie's mind, he works very hard pressing buttons for 60hrs a week to be able to pay for his 1 bedroom flat in shitsville. So I can fully see why he thinks its wrong that he cannot have friends or family to stay, yet those in social housing can.
No offence intended to anyone here.
Back to OP, the woman clearly must have had further issues, if the thought of downsizing was enough to make her want to end it all.
But it's only council tenants on benefits who are being forced to either downsize or pay more. Council tenants who pay their own rent can have as many 'free bedrooms' as they wish.
Hmmm. Something not consistent here. :-\
I believe that some councils are making it a condition that new tenants can be moved when and if their circumstances
change in the future. :-\
but why should people move when the have been living in the same house for 20 or more years . made it there home . i dont fathom that
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Saw the news. She had ''auto-immune system defficiency''. what is this?
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Saw the news. She had ''auto-immune system defficiency''. what is this?
webby i think its to do wiyh tour imune system a bit like rejecting a transplanted organ but i maybe wrong
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so where dose my wife sleep if we move to a 2 bed house or my son and who pays the £40.000 it cost for the adaptions so i can live in my house or do i move into a home for the
the infirm and have no life whats so ever because im disabled amongst other things im being made to feel like a outcast again
i dont want to fallout with anybody over this but each case has got to be taken on its merrits and dont tar everybody with the same brush there are a lot of people that for a better word flout the system ive seen this for myself in the past 14 days and this has tacken presidence over genuine claimers so we are all in the eyes of this goverment scroungers until proved outherwise
i agree if somone living in a 3 bed house on their own should be asked to downsize its only fair equaly there are plenty of familiys that are living in a 2bed house that clearly need a bigger house but there is not the housing stock available
lpke ive said i dont want to argue about this or fall out with anybody life is too short well mine is anyway but thats another story
dont anybody fall out over this its not worth it :) :)
Gotta start somewhere. Fannying about, dilly dallying, won't help, and 10yrs time we'll still be here. So we need to start with a blanket rule.
Anyone who feels they need/deserve/want a larger home has the option to pay the tax ;)
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but why should people move when the have been living in the same house for 20 or more years . made it there home . i dont fathom that
I live in a house that, by the rules of this tax, is too large for me, and have done for the past 12yrs.
So if I fell on hard times, you think its right that the state should pay for me to continue living here, and not move me to a smaller house?
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but why should people move when the have been living in the same house for 20 or more years . made it there home . i dont fathom that
I live in a house that, by the rules of this tax, is too large for me, and have done for the past 12yrs.
So if I fell on hard times, you think its right that the state should pay for me to continue living here, and not move me to a smaller house?
my house is not to big for me . and as i said in my area theres no 2 bedroom houses . so were is the sense ;D ;D
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but why should people move when the have been living in the same house for 20 or more years . made it there home . i dont fathom that
I live in a house that, by the rules of this tax, is too large for me, and have done for the past 12yrs.
So if I fell on hard times, you think its right that the state should pay for me to continue living here, and not move me to a smaller house?
my house is not to big for me . and as i said in my area theres no 2 bedroom houses . so were is the sense ;D ;D
My house is not, in my mind, too big for me. Although the state would, rightly, say it was if they were having to pay for it for me.
What if Richard Branson or Alan Sugar fell on hard times, should the state keep them in their mansions?
Or should it be one rule for you, and another for others?
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so where dose my wife sleep if we move to a 2 bed house or my son and who pays the £40.000 it cost for the adaptions so i can live in my house or do i move into a home for the
the infirm and have no life whats so ever because im disabled amongst other things im being made to feel like a outcast again
i dont want to fallout with anybody over this but each case has got to be taken on its merrits and dont tar everybody with the same brush there are a lot of people that for a better word flout the system ive seen this for myself in the past 14 days and this has tacken presidence over genuine claimers so we are all in the eyes of this goverment scroungers until proved outherwise
i agree if somone living in a 3 bed house on their own should be asked to downsize its only fair equaly there are plenty of familiys that are living in a 2bed house that clearly need a bigger house but there is not the housing stock available
lpke ive said i dont want to argue about this or fall out with anybody life is too short well mine is anyway but thats another story
dont anybody fall out over this its not worth it :) :)
Gotta start somewhere. Fannying about, dilly dallying, won't help, and 10yrs time we'll still be here. So we need to start with a blanket rule.
Anyone who feels they need/deserve/want a larger home has the option to pay the tax ;)
i agree somthing has to be done about the wefare system as it is its unfordable but some people like myself dont have a choice but i will say there is funds available for people like me called decrepancy payments to help with this i have qualified for this for which im great full i did ask to be downsized but both the housing ass & the council said that there were no sutable houses or bungalows available but i qualifide on disability
still there ars some people that could swap but choose not to thats their choice and they have to pay fair enough
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so where dose my wife sleep if we move to a 2 bed house or my son and who pays the £40.000 it cost for the adaptions so i can live in my house or do i move into a home for the
the infirm and have no life whats so ever because im disabled amongst other things im being made to feel like a outcast again
i dont want to fallout with anybody over this but each case has got to be taken on its merrits and dont tar everybody with the same brush there are a lot of people that for a better word flout the system ive seen this for myself in the past 14 days and this has tacken presidence over genuine claimers so we are all in the eyes of this goverment scroungers until proved outherwise
i agree if somone living in a 3 bed house on their own should be asked to downsize its only fair equaly there are plenty of familiys that are living in a 2bed house that clearly need a bigger house but there is not the housing stock available
lpke ive said i dont want to argue about this or fall out with anybody life is too short well mine is anyway but thats another story
dont anybody fall out over this its not worth it :) :)
Gotta start somewhere. Fannying about, dilly dallying, won't help, and 10yrs time we'll still be here. So we need to start with a blanket rule.
Anyone who feels they need/deserve/want a larger home has the option to pay the tax ;)
i agree somthing has to be done about the wefare system as it is its unfordable but some people like myself dont have a choice but i will say there is funds available for people like me called decrepancy payments to help with this i have qualified for this for which im great full i did ask to be downsized but both the housing ass & the council said that there were no sutable houses or bungalows available but i qualifide on disability
still there ars some people that could swap but choose not to thats their choice and they have to pay fair enough
just like me .asked about two bed house in my area , they said haven't got any :y :y
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anyway its law now and weve got to accept it weather we like it or not
what ever we do its not going to bring that poor woman back whats done is done :( :(
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so where dose my wife sleep if we move to a 2 bed house or my son and who pays the £40.000 it cost for the adaptions so i can live in my house or do i move into a home for the
the infirm and have no life whats so ever because im disabled amongst other things im being made to feel like a outcast again
i dont want to fallout with anybody over this but each case has got to be taken on its merrits and dont tar everybody with the same brush there are a lot of people that for a better word flout the system ive seen this for myself in the past 14 days and this has tacken presidence over genuine claimers so we are all in the eyes of this goverment scroungers until proved outherwise
i agree if somone living in a 3 bed house on their own should be asked to downsize its only fair equaly there are plenty of familiys that are living in a 2bed house that clearly need a bigger house but there is not the housing stock available
lpke ive said i dont want to argue about this or fall out with anybody life is too short well mine is anyway but thats another story
dont anybody fall out over this its not worth it :) :)
Gotta start somewhere. Fannying about, dilly dallying, won't help, and 10yrs time we'll still be here. So we need to start with a blanket rule.
Anyone who feels they need/deserve/want a larger home has the option to pay the tax ;)
i agree somthing has to be done about the wefare system as it is its unfordable but some people like myself dont have a choice but i will say there is funds available for people like me called decrepancy payments to help with this i have qualified for this for which im great full i did ask to be downsized but both the housing ass & the council said that there were no sutable houses or bungalows available but i qualifide on disability
still there ars some people that could swap but choose not to thats their choice and they have to pay fair enough
just like me .asked about two bed house in my area , they said haven't got any :y :y
and youve done your bit by asking nobody can ask anymore of you :y :y
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this is my first post on this thread but . .
I have some knowledge of social housing as the bulk of my work is on the maintenance of this. I come into contact with lots of social housing tennants .
I don't know of a single tennant yet that has been moved to a smaller property rather than pay this "tax".
There is a total shortage of all sizes of social housing. Although the rules are that you can downsize to a smaller property . . have yet to see this happen anywhere in my area. There just are not the properties to move to.
IMO it is just another tax on the less well off & struggling people who cannot find a job . Of course there is always going to be the system "milkers" .
So if you offer to move to a smaller one & there are not any . . what happens then ?
Also if a move was available . . being on benefits the tennants move would probably have to be paid for by the council .
Just a thought . . . it seems this only applies to those on housing benefit . . but what if you have a steady fair paying job & rent a council/housing association house . You want a bit more room & can afford the rent to go from a 2 to 3 bed property , what chance is there of this being approved ? . . . NFC >:( >:(
All one way as usual with our govenment >:( >:( >:(
Rant over ;)
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this is my first post on this thread but . .
I have some knowledge of social housing as the bulk of my work is on the maintenance of this. I come into contact with lots of social housing tennants .
I don't know of a single tennant yet that has been moved to a smaller property rather than pay this "tax".
There is a total shortage of all sizes of social housing. Although the rules are that you can downsize to a smaller property . . have yet to see this happen anywhere in my area. There just are not the properties to move to.
IMO it is just another tax on the less well off & struggling people who cannot find a job . Of course there is always going to be the system "milkers" .
So if you offer to move to a smaller one & there are not any . . what happens then ?
Also if a move was available . . being on benefits the tennants move would probably have to be paid for by the council .
Just a thought . . . it seems this only applies to those on housing benefit . . but what if you have a steady fair paying job & rent a council/housing association house . You want a bit more room & can afford the rent to go from a 2 to 3 bed property , what chance is there of this being approved ? . . . NFC >:( >:(
All one way as usual with our govenment >:( >:( >:(
Rant over ;)
totaly agree with you AL :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
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I think we should all buy a a tent each and live in a field :y They'll prob find a way to tax that though. Very sad about that woman but obviously there had to be other issues as well
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this is my first post on this thread but . .
I have some knowledge of social housing as the bulk of my work is on the maintenance of this. I come into contact with lots of social housing tennants .
I don't know of a single tennant yet that has been moved to a smaller property rather than pay this "tax".
There is a total shortage of all sizes of social housing. Although the rules are that you can downsize to a smaller property . . have yet to see this happen anywhere in my area. There just are not the properties to move to.
IMO it is just another tax on the less well off & struggling people who cannot find a job . Of course there is always going to be the system "milkers" .
So if you offer to move to a smaller one & there are not any . . what happens then ?
Also if a move was available . . being on benefits the tennants move would probably have to be paid for by the council .
Just a thought . . . it seems this only applies to those on housing benefit . . but what if you have a steady fair paying job & rent a council/housing association house . You want a bit more room & can afford the rent to go from a 2 to 3 bed property , what chance is there of this being approved ? . . . NFC >:( >:(
All one way as usual with our govenment >:( >:( >:(
Rant over ;)
.....and the government is well aware of this, but doesn't give a shit. It is simply a way of demonising those on benefits as a bunch of lazy workshy wasters. :-\
Some undoubtedly are........Many are not.