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[Taxi_Driver]

I'm sorry, but I'm with tunnie here, just don't ever tell him that I agree with him.

The benefits system is a (unsustainable) method to provide people with a fallback in their hour of need. Or at least should be. It has become, over the past decade or 2, a gravy train for many. It should not provide more than is absolutely necessary.

Its absolutely right that those in social housing should be encouraged in to more appropriate, cost effective housing, freeing up the larger houses for those that need it. Or if they don't want to downsize, they have to pay for the luxury.


I'm sure in tunnie's mind, he works very hard pressing buttons for 60hrs a week to be able to pay for his 1 bedroom flat in shitsville. So I can fully see why he thinks its wrong that he cannot have friends or family to stay, yet those in social housing can.


No offence intended to anyone here.


Back to OP, the woman clearly must have had further issues, if the thought of downsizing was enough to make her want to end it all.

Tunnie could always buy a bigger bed......3/4 somes can be interesting, so im told 

[ozzycat]

so where dose my wife sleep if we move to a 2 bed house or my son and who pays the £40.000 it cost for the adaptions so i can live in my house or do i move into a home for the
the infirm and have no life whats so ever because im disabled amongst other things im being made to feel like a outcast again
i dont want to fallout with anybody over this but each case has got to be taken on its merrits and dont tar everybody with the same brush there are a lot of people that for a better word flout the system ive seen this for myself in the past 14 days and this has tacken presidence over genuine claimers so we are all in the eyes of this goverment scroungers until proved outherwise
i agree if somone living in a 3 bed house on their own should be asked to downsize its only fair equaly there are plenty of familiys that are living in a 2bed house that clearly need a bigger house but there is not the housing stock available
lpke ive said i dont want to argue about this or fall out with anybody life is too short well mine is anyway but thats another story
dont anybody fall out over this its not worth it 

[bored bigyin54]

I'm sorry, but I'm with tunnie here, just don't ever tell him that I agree with him.

The benefits system is a (unsustainable) method to provide people with a fallback in their hour of need. Or at least should be. It has become, over the past decade or 2, a gravy train for many. It should not provide more than is absolutely necessary.

Its absolutely right that those in social housing should be encouraged in to more appropriate, cost effective housing, freeing up the larger houses for those that need it. Or if they don't want to downsize, they have to pay for the luxury.


I'm sure in tunnie's mind, he works very hard pressing buttons for 60hrs a week to be able to pay for his 1 bedroom flat in shitsville. So I can fully see why he thinks its wrong that he cannot have friends or family to stay, yet those in social housing can.


No offence intended to anyone here.


Back to OP, the woman clearly must have had further issues, if the thought of downsizing was enough to make her want to end it all.

But it's only council tenants on benefits who are being forced to either downsize or pay more. Council tenants who pay their own rent can have as many 'free bedrooms' as they wish.

Hmmm. Something not consistent here.

I believe that some councils are making it a condition that new tenants can be moved when and if their circumstances
change in the future.

but why should people move when the have been living in the same house for 20 or more years . made it there home . i dont fathom that

[Webby the Bear]

Saw the news. She had ''auto-immune system defficiency''. what is this?

[ozzycat]

Saw the news. She had ''auto-immune system defficiency''. what is this?

webby i think its to do wiyh tour imune system a bit like rejecting a transplanted organ but i maybe wrong

[TheBoy]

so where dose my wife sleep if we move to a 2 bed house or my son and who pays the £40.000 it cost for the adaptions so i can live in my house or do i move into a home for the
the infirm and have no life whats so ever because im disabled amongst other things im being made to feel like a outcast again
i dont want to fallout with anybody over this but each case has got to be taken on its merrits and dont tar everybody with the same brush there are a lot of people that for a better word flout the system ive seen this for myself in the past 14 days and this has tacken presidence over genuine claimers so we are all in the eyes of this goverment scroungers until proved outherwise
i agree if somone living in a 3 bed house on their own should be asked to downsize its only fair equaly there are plenty of familiys that are living in a 2bed house that clearly need a bigger house but there is not the housing stock available
lpke ive said i dont want to argue about this or fall out with anybody life is too short well mine is anyway but thats another story
dont anybody fall out over this its not worth it 

Gotta start somewhere. Fannying about, dilly dallying, won't help, and 10yrs time we'll still be here. So we need to start with a blanket rule.

Anyone who feels they need/deserve/want a larger home has the option to pay the tax

[TheBoy]

but why should people move when the have been living in the same house for 20 or more years . made it there home . i dont fathom that

I live in a house that, by the rules of this tax, is too large for me, and have done for the past 12yrs.

So if I fell on hard times, you think its right that the state should pay for me to continue living here, and not move me to a smaller house?

[bored bigyin54]

but why should people move when the have been living in the same house for 20 or more years . made it there home . i dont fathom that

I live in a house that, by the rules of this tax, is too large for me, and have done for the past 12yrs.

So if I fell on hard times, you think its right that the state should pay for me to continue living here, and not move me to a smaller house?

my house is not to big for me . and as i said in my area theres no 2 bedroom houses . so were is the sense

[TheBoy]

but why should people move when the have been living in the same house for 20 or more years . made it there home . i dont fathom that

I live in a house that, by the rules of this tax, is too large for me, and have done for the past 12yrs.

So if I fell on hard times, you think its right that the state should pay for me to continue living here, and not move me to a smaller house?

my house is not to big for me . and as i said in my area theres no 2 bedroom houses . so were is the sense

My house is not, in my mind, too big for me. Although the state would, rightly, say it was if they were having to pay for it for me.

What if Richard Branson or Alan Sugar fell on hard times, should the state keep them in their mansions?

Or should it be one rule for you, and another for others?

[ozzycat]

so where dose my wife sleep if we move to a 2 bed house or my son and who pays the £40.000 it cost for the adaptions so i can live in my house or do i move into a home for the
the infirm and have no life whats so ever because im disabled amongst other things im being made to feel like a outcast again
i dont want to fallout with anybody over this but each case has got to be taken on its merrits and dont tar everybody with the same brush there are a lot of people that for a better word flout the system ive seen this for myself in the past 14 days and this has tacken presidence over genuine claimers so we are all in the eyes of this goverment scroungers until proved outherwise
i agree if somone living in a 3 bed house on their own should be asked to downsize its only fair equaly there are plenty of familiys that are living in a 2bed house that clearly need a bigger house but there is not the housing stock available
lpke ive said i dont want to argue about this or fall out with anybody life is too short well mine is anyway but thats another story
dont anybody fall out over this its not worth it 

Gotta start somewhere. Fannying about, dilly dallying, won't help, and 10yrs time we'll still be here. So we need to start with a blanket rule.

Anyone who feels they need/deserve/want a larger home has the option to pay the tax

i agree somthing has to be done about the wefare system as it is its unfordable but some people like myself dont have a choice but i will say there is funds available for people like me called decrepancy payments to help with this i have qualified for this for which im great full i did ask to be downsized but both the housing ass & the council said that there were no sutable houses or bungalows  available  but i qualifide on disability
still there ars some people that could swap but choose not to thats their choice and they have to pay fair enough

[bored bigyin54]

so where dose my wife sleep if we move to a 2 bed house or my son and who pays the £40.000 it cost for the adaptions so i can live in my house or do i move into a home for the
the infirm and have no life whats so ever because im disabled amongst other things im being made to feel like a outcast again
i dont want to fallout with anybody over this but each case has got to be taken on its merrits and dont tar everybody with the same brush there are a lot of people that for a better word flout the system ive seen this for myself in the past 14 days and this has tacken presidence over genuine claimers so we are all in the eyes of this goverment scroungers until proved outherwise
i agree if somone living in a 3 bed house on their own should be asked to downsize its only fair equaly there are plenty of familiys that are living in a 2bed house that clearly need a bigger house but there is not the housing stock available
lpke ive said i dont want to argue about this or fall out with anybody life is too short well mine is anyway but thats another story
dont anybody fall out over this its not worth it 

Gotta start somewhere. Fannying about, dilly dallying, won't help, and 10yrs time we'll still be here. So we need to start with a blanket rule.

Anyone who feels they need/deserve/want a larger home has the option to pay the tax

i agree somthing has to be done about the wefare system as it is its unfordable but some people like myself dont have a choice but i will say there is funds available for people like me called decrepancy payments to help with this i have qualified for this for which im great full i did ask to be downsized but both the housing ass & the council said that there were no sutable houses or bungalows  available  but i qualifide on disability
still there ars some people that could swap but choose not to thats their choice and they have to pay fair enough

just like me .asked about two bed house in my area , they said haven't got any 

[ozzycat]

anyway its law now and weve got to accept it  weather we like it or not
what ever we do its not going to bring that poor woman back whats done is done

[ozzycat]

so where dose my wife sleep if we move to a 2 bed house or my son and who pays the £40.000 it cost for the adaptions so i can live in my house or do i move into a home for the
the infirm and have no life whats so ever because im disabled amongst other things im being made to feel like a outcast again
i dont want to fallout with anybody over this but each case has got to be taken on its merrits and dont tar everybody with the same brush there are a lot of people that for a better word flout the system ive seen this for myself in the past 14 days and this has tacken presidence over genuine claimers so we are all in the eyes of this goverment scroungers until proved outherwise
i agree if somone living in a 3 bed house on their own should be asked to downsize its only fair equaly there are plenty of familiys that are living in a 2bed house that clearly need a bigger house but there is not the housing stock available
lpke ive said i dont want to argue about this or fall out with anybody life is too short well mine is anyway but thats another story
dont anybody fall out over this its not worth it 

Gotta start somewhere. Fannying about, dilly dallying, won't help, and 10yrs time we'll still be here. So we need to start with a blanket rule.

Anyone who feels they need/deserve/want a larger home has the option to pay the tax

i agree somthing has to be done about the wefare system as it is its unfordable but some people like myself dont have a choice but i will say there is funds available for people like me called decrepancy payments to help with this i have qualified for this for which im great full i did ask to be downsized but both the housing ass & the council said that there were no sutable houses or bungalows  available  but i qualifide on disability
still there ars some people that could swap but choose not to thats their choice and they have to pay fair enough

just like me .asked about two bed house in my area , they said haven't got any 

and youve done your bit by asking nobody can ask anymore of you

[Big_Al]

this is my first post on this thread but  . .

I have some knowledge of social housing as the bulk of my work is on the maintenance of this. I come into contact with lots of social housing tennants .

I don't know of a single tennant yet  that has been moved to a smaller property rather than pay this "tax".

There is a total shortage of all sizes of social housing. Although the rules are that you can downsize to a smaller property . .  have yet to see this happen anywhere in my area. There just are not the properties to move to.

IMO it is just another tax on the less well off & struggling people who cannot find a job .  Of course there is always going to be the system "milkers" .

So if you offer to move to a smaller one & there are not any  . . what happens then ?

Also if a move was available . .   being on benefits the tennants  move would probably have to  be paid for by the council . 

Just a thought  . . . it seems this only applies to those on housing benefit  . . but what if you have a steady fair paying job & rent a council/housing association house . You want a bit more room & can afford the rent  to go from a 2 to 3 bed property , what chance is there of this being approved ? . . .   NFC  

All one way as usual with our govenment 

Rant over 

[ozzycat]

this is my first post on this thread but  . .

I have some knowledge of social housing as the bulk of my work is on the maintenance of this. I come into contact with lots of social housing tennants .

I don't know of a single tennant yet  that has been moved to a smaller property rather than pay this "tax".

There is a total shortage of all sizes of social housing. Although the rules are that you can downsize to a smaller property . .  have yet to see this happen anywhere in my area. There just are not the properties to move to.

IMO it is just another tax on the less well off & struggling people who cannot find a job .  Of course there is always going to be the system "milkers" .

So if you offer to move to a smaller one & there are not any  . . what happens then ?

Also if a move was available . .   being on benefits the tennants  move would probably have to  be paid for by the council . 

Just a thought  . . . it seems this only applies to those on housing benefit  . . but what if you have a steady fair paying job & rent a council/housing association house . You want a bit more room & can afford the rent  to go from a 2 to 3 bed property , what chance is there of this being approved ? . . .   NFC  

All one way as usual with our govenment 

Rant over 

totaly agree with you AL