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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Toledodude1973 on 25 May 2013, 13:58:28
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Hoping someone can put their finger on this one. OK i had to take my Ommy off the road over winter due to being a bit strapped for cash, however i'm now planning to go back on the road 1st June, I charged the battery and it started second turn of the key so parked in driveway. The following day went to start it for MOT and only just started after nearly killing battery,passed MOT ok,but now only starts after about 6-7 turns of key then it runs fine. I seem to remember last year when turning ignition on it made a whirring sound as if something was powering up the noise is not apparent now .
Any ideas ,sorry for big blog but wanted to give whole story thank you
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remove/clean throttle body-also remove power sounder :y
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Thanks for that is there a how to on here?
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http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=113607.0
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Do the paperclip test (as per maint. guide) and post up the codes.Sounds like it might be yet another crank sensor.
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Do the paperclip test (as per maint. guide) and post up the codes.Sounds like it might be yet another crank sensor.
2.6 Albs, pedal test ;)
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Can't see throttle body causing that, as above read the codes, more likey a cam or crank sensor fault :y
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Can't see throttle body causing that, as above read the codes, more likey a cam or crank sensor fault :y
been sat for ages- :y
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Can't see throttle body causing that, as above read the codes, more likey a cam or crank sensor fault :y
been sat for ages- :y
And? Still can't see the connection. Left my 2.2 un-used for a year, fired back up no issues. 3.2 was once left for 5 months, same no problems there.
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Hello thanks for info its a 2002 2.6 can someone just run through pedal trick with me (slowly) sorry for being thick!
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http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90581.0
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thanks rob, i'm in the beast now pressed and holding down pedals, switch on and spanner flashes really fast with a slight pause now and then . Is quick flashing correct
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thanks rob, i'm in the beast now pressed and holding down pedals, switch on and spanner flashes really fast with a slight pause now and then . Is quick flashing correct
should not be be so quick as you cannot count the flashes . It's a bit tricky & takes a bit of getting used to first time you attempt it .
I get SWMBO to sit in the passenger seat with a pen & paper & write down the numbers as I count them . Seems to work ;D ;D
another idea would be to video the sequence & play it back in slow-mo if you have that facility available :-\ HTH :y
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thanks Al, so i'm watching from first flash and wait for very slight pause, picture of engine also flashes..correct?
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thanks Al, so i'm watching from first flash and wait for very slight pause, picture of engine also flashes..correct?
Nope, should only be the "spanner" light
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Oh what does that mean then?
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spanner light and engine light both flash together and cant get car to start at all today .Could be a bit flooded after my pedal attempts i guess
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spanner light and engine light both flash together and cant get car to start at all today .Could be a bit flooded after my pedal attempts i guess
not sure on that one . should only be spanner light that flashes .Someone will advise .
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PM sent
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Immolbliser? ;)
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Thanks dbug tried spare key as well but no joy. Going to get codes read if i can start the car any other ideas greatly received
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terminal connectors by battery-the contacts inside work loose-unplug them and close up connectors a little-mine did same-spanner/eml and also got occasional Gearbox check-on mid :y
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terminal connectors by battery-the contacts inside work loose-unplug them and close up connectors a little-mine did same-spanner/eml and also got occasional Gearbox check-on mid :y
Never seen those connections work loose, must have clocked up over 250k over the years with all our Omegas, never opened fuse box on some of them!
Gearbox fault? What's the relevance here? Nothing to do with engine bay fuses ???
Thanks dbug tried spare key as well but no joy. Going to get codes read if i can start the car any other ideas greatly received
No joy as in not starting? Double check basics make sure the transponder is in the key, but sounds like you need a code reader.
Might be worth dropping a PM to Elite Pete or DarthLooKnee they maybe able to assist :y
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terminal connectors by battery-the contacts inside work loose-unplug them and close up connectors a little-mine did same-spanner/eml and also got occasional Gearbox check-on mid :y
Never seen those connections work loose, must have clocked up over 250k over the years with all our Omegas, never opened fuse box on some of them!
Gearbox fault? What's the relevance here? Nothing to do with engine bay fuses ???
Thanks dbug tried spare key as well but no joy. Going to get codes read if i can start the car any other ideas greatly received
No joy as in not starting? Double check basics make sure the transponder is in the key, but sounds like you need a code reader.
Might be worth dropping a PM to Elite Pete or DarthLooKnee they maybe able to assist :y
:y First check to fix or eliminate (remember its for free!!) ;)
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My z22xe is not driven much since I got the dti,if the battery is any bit down that spanner light flashes . It will only start with a jump start .
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yep i'll have wait to read codes bit awkward now car wont start, also noticed something else strange rear passenger side window has somehow opened itself twice since starting problem.....any connection?thanks again forall help
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Tried car this morning and actually started after 6-7 attempts, warning light car/spanner now stays on with car running smoothly -any ideas?
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Lazydocker very kindly came round with code reader,nothing came up only throttle faults after disconnecting plug socket and reconnecting again to throttle body.
When ignition is switched on the throttle body butterfly valves chatter and unable to start car,can anyone help with this thank you
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need new throttle body as said by me after your first post ;)
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I gave it a clean both sides ,maybe a more thorough effort neded will try tomorrow thanks Symes
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reckon the motor in throttle body is problem mate or there is a small nipple under butterflies-pipe to fuel reg-is that blocked
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thanks symes, gave body and hole for pipe thorough clean and still no go. When i turn ignition on i get rapid clicking from (i presume)throttle motor ,took spring clips off and could see nothing obviously wrong circuit board/plastic cogs,has anyone else had this problem before do i really need to replace whole throttle assembly and motor?
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What is a throttle position sensor could this be relevant?
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What is a throttle position sensor could this be relevant?
Two. One at top of throttle pedal, t`other built into throttle body
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Rob do you think this could be my starting/clicking noise problem thanks for replying
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Hold on a minute-rapid clicking--does engine turn over?
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yes turns over nicely thanks symes your working o/t on this one!thanks
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clicking from throttle body -yes? wonder if spindle on butterflies is sticking-what I mean is-if spindle tight it could put stress on
motor=clicking-only a guess though mate
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Seemed free enough when cleaning--saw throttle body + motor on ebay £20 what do you think?
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Tough call-could be knackered -no what I mean-up to you mate-but just wondered you are getting fuel yes? wondered if fuse/relay to pump-only just thought of it-sorry mate :-[
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I know you did get the car running . .but is it back to not starting at all again now ?
just thinking that you could always put out a request on here for someone to "lend you to try " a spare throttle body to eliminate that
side of things if anyone one has one knocking around ;) ;)