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Title: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: 78bex on 05 June 2013, 22:30:32
I set up my approach for the middle lane.
But I get squeezed into the wrong lane whether I like it or not :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JanJCP2b0Ys&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JanJCP2b0Ys&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: Andy B on 05 June 2013, 22:45:52
might has right ...... typical of many HGV drivers IMHO

I'll let anyone of them out of a junction, or allow them through a gap if it makes life easier all of us on the road, buta lot of them bully their way out - as the video shows.
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 05 June 2013, 22:51:08
...is that all...?  :-\

You get off lightly round your way.
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 June 2013, 23:00:09
What's wrong with that!!  :o  Didn't you see that bloody great blue thing in front of you??  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: 05omegav6 on 05 June 2013, 23:23:16
You might have expected that that was about to happen as at the start of the clip as the trailer is straddling both lanes :-\ that silver Audi was a bit all over the place as well.
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 05 June 2013, 23:44:34
You might have expected that that was about to happen as at the start of the clip as the trailer is straddling both lanes :-\ that silver Audi was a bit all over the place as well.
I thought the Audi annoyed the lorry driver tbh. Probably should have given the Hgv room as you say.
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: 78bex on 06 June 2013, 00:24:44
You might have expected that that was about to happen as at the start of the clip as the trailer is straddling both lanes :-\ that silver Audi was a bit all over the place as well.
I thought the Audi annoyed the lorry driver tbh. Probably should have given the Hgv room as you say.

I get the sneaking suspicion you guys drive for living ???............I`ll get my coat
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: Vamps on 06 June 2013, 00:29:30
I think the only problem was the HGV should have indicated earlier, he was prevented from moving into the lane he wanted to be in till the last minute, had he indicated earlier you would have been aware..... :y :y
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: 78bex on 06 June 2013, 01:06:07
I think the only problem was the HGV should have indicated earlier, he was prevented from moving into the lane he wanted to be in till the last minute, had he indicated earlier you would have been aware..... :y :y

He hung me out to dry man, he just wasn`t prepared to get held back by mr waitrose
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: Andy B on 06 June 2013, 01:09:41
I think the only problem was the HGV should have indicated earlier, he was prevented from moving into the lane he wanted to be in till the last minute, had he indicated earlier you would have been aware..... :y :y

Because you have a HGVIII licence, I think you're biased  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 June 2013, 04:49:41
I think the only problem was the HGV should have indicated earlier, he was prevented from moving into the lane he wanted to be in till the last minute, had he indicated earlier you would have been aware..... :y :y

He hung me out to dry man, he just wasn`t prepared to get held back by mr waitrose
Nor were you. Had you been planning a bit further ahead, you would have held back and been ready for it :y
Cyclist-with-a-helmet-cam syndrome me thinks, I'm right so I am invincible :-\
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 June 2013, 05:36:36
Nothing to say that Mr Waitrose didn't miss a gear, leaving the blue truck to choices:

1. Ploughing into the back of him.
2. Swerving around him.

Moral of the story, plan ahead and allow plenty of space :y
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: Elite Pete on 06 June 2013, 17:05:24
Nothing to say that Mr Waitrose didn't miss a gear, leaving the blue truck to choices:

1. Ploughing into the back of him.
2. Swerving around him.

Moral of the story, plan ahead and allow plenty of space :y

Typical LGV driver. He hasn't realised yet that they do have brakes ::)
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: 05omegav6 on 06 June 2013, 18:38:14
That is the position he got himself in, pulling along side only to have to change lanes only served to compound the situation :-\

The blue truck certainly wasn't hanging about, another reason to keep a bit away from it. Had he been travelling a bit quicker, that might have been a squished Omega and OP :-\


On a cheerier note, I had someone nearly drive into the side of me in the Blackwall tunnel this morning  :-\ Vectra C vs 26t rigid... I wonder who would come off worse ::)
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: Omegatoy on 06 June 2013, 18:43:22
quite simple albeit the wrong way to do it,
blue truck was empty and he wanted to pass because the waitrose truck was fully loaded and would be slow,he probably didnt know this until he was behind it at the roundabout,
but he should have been in the correct lane first! :y
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 06 June 2013, 19:29:14
quite simple albeit the wrong way to do it,
blue truck was empty and he wanted to pass because the waitrose truck was fully loaded and would be slow,he probably didnt know this until he was behind it at the roundabout,
but he should have been in the correct lane first! :y

Which he would have been if it wasn't for the silver Audi, I suspect. ...?

Still, no harm done really. In the grand scheme of things that's a trivial event ime. But there we are. :)
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: Webby the Bear on 06 June 2013, 19:53:58
This is just my opinion of what happened but I would say the blue trucker was totally in the wrong. The Audi imo did nowt wrong. he was in the middle lane all the time and went past the slower moving blue truck who was for all intent and purpose staying in the left hand lane.

the blue trucker then at the last minute indicates and cuts up the OP.

In that situation though in the OPs shoes i'd have still of course stayed heading down the middle lane but slowed right down and kept behind the blue truck for two reasons.... 1. knowing that trucks need a bit more room and 2. cos I hate being alongside those things at the best of times

just my opinion :)
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: YZ250 on 06 June 2013, 20:38:55
This is just my opinion of what happened but I would say the blue trucker was totally in the wrong. The Audi imo did nowt wrong. he was in the middle lane all the time and went past the slower moving blue truck who was for all intent and purpose staying in the left hand lane.

the blue trucker then at the last minute indicates and cuts up the OP.

In that situation though in the OPs shoes i'd have still of course stayed heading down the middle lane but slowed right down and kept behind the blue truck for two reasons.... 1. knowing that trucks need a bit more room and 2. cos I hate being alongside those things at the best of times

just my opinion :)

Sounds a fair assessment to me.  :y As said, the Audi never held the blue truck up as the truck was in front of the Audi to start with. The blue truck clearly didn't want to get held up by the waitrose truck so he nipped across at the last minute. Can't see how the truck is not at fault.  :-\
Having said that, I never mix with trucks at roundabouts so I would have stayed behind the truck and let him go well clear before leaving the roundabout.  :y
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: sassanach on 06 June 2013, 22:03:32
lets put it this way,right or wrong, argueing with 44 tons, with a omega is suicidal. :o ;D
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: phill osey on 11 June 2013, 12:35:31
Seen this happen way tooooooooooo many times but in the opposite way

Hubby is a truck driver, has been for 23 years, and is a damned good driver

I have been with him on numerous occassions where car drivers think its their god given right to pull out, or in, in the path of a truck, just because they feel they can, or feel they are faster and can get away with it, often  crossing 3 lanes just to get to an off ramp first,and because they couldn't be bothered getting into the right lane in time, and very often that will lead to a wagon having to either slam on, or veer out into another lane, but who ALWAYS gets the blame, the truck driver

Yes I  do agree there are bad truck drivers out there, but there are thousands, if not millions more bad car drivers

There are so many  more laws and regulations that truck drivers have to adhere to, yet people still want their things delivered on time etc, yet wont give a truck the right of way  at times

OK rant over

Lee
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: Gaffers on 11 June 2013, 15:18:16
Bex, it doesn't matter how right or wrong you are on here.  If you post a video of someone else's bad driving the general opinion on here will be that it was your fault.

Been there, done that, got the many t-shirts :y

The HGV driver was a dick and in the worng, end of.
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: tigers_gonads on 11 June 2013, 15:34:42
The only law that applies in this case is the laws of physics.
If its that much bigger then you, give it some space
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: Andy B on 11 June 2013, 16:43:08
..
 yet wont give a truck the right of way  at times

OK rant over

Lee

As per the video.

I've lost count the number of times HGVs have pulled out in front of me when towing, either from lane 1 to lane 2 on a motorway or on roundabouts ........ some cars can maintain their speed on a motorway with a trailer - many HGVs can't/don't

Rant over  ::)
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: 78bex on 11 June 2013, 19:35:46
Bex, it doesn't matter how right or wrong you are on here.  If you post a video of someone else's bad driving the general opinion on here will be that it was your fault.

Been there, done that, got the many t-shirts :y

The HGV driver was a dick and in the worng, end of.

guffer I appreiciate the sentiment mate, but i`m the first to admit that my driving could be better. I got my bike license first & always feel happier in the saddle to be honest. I did notice the gap on his near side & if on 2 wheels I`d have tailed this creep & nailed him @ the earliest possible opportunity.
Title: Re: So called professional driver should know better
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 June 2013, 10:29:53
Bex, it doesn't matter how right or wrong you are on here.  If you post a video of someone else's bad driving the general opinion on here will be that it was your fault.

Been there, done that, got the many t-shirts :y

The HGV driver was a dick and in the worng, end of.

guffer I appreiciate the sentiment mate, but i`m the first to admit that my driving could be better. I got my bike license first & always feel happier in the saddle to be honest. I did notice the gap on his near side & if on 2 wheels I`d have tailed this creep & nailed him @ the earliest possible opportunity.

To what end? Death? Being hit by a truck is bad enough in a car, but on a bike you're definitely toast :-\

Learn from it and move on :y