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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: tunnie on 27 August 2013, 19:43:14
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I would reply to your Pm if your inbox was not full ::)
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....Again. Poxy inbox ain't big enough. ::)
Anyway, where was we...? :)
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....Again. Poxy inbox ain't big enough. ::)
Anyway, where was we...? :)
Dont worry too much,Its only tunnie after your used tyres with 0.25mm worth of legal tread on them
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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....Again. Poxy inbox ain't big enough. ::)
Anyway, where was we...? :)
Dont worry too much,Its only tunnie after your used tyres with 0.25mm worth of legal tread on them
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Since 2008, when I first joined OOF, I've gathered the impression that Mr Tunnie isn't exactly generous with his cash. ;) :)
Of course, I could be wrong. ::) ::) ::) ::)
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....Again. Poxy inbox ain't big enough. ::)
Anyway, where was we...? :)
Dont worry too much,Its only tunnie after your used tyres with 0.25mm worth of legal tread on them
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Since 2008, when I first joined OOF, I've gathered the impression that Mr Tunnie isn't exactly generous with his cash. ;) :)
Of course, I could be wrong. ::) ::) ::) ::)
I try to do 5 holidays a year, last year only managed 3 :(
January - Week Snowboarding in French Alps
May - Week touring Scotland on the bike.
July - Week in Private Villa, with pool with MrsT in Crete.
This year only done one so far, week in the Austrian Alps. Suspect that it for this year, as buying a house in Surrey is expensive ::)
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Also not sure why I get the reputation of not splashing the cash, like to keep my Omega's going and seeing the world!
Bike trip was amazing...
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/803897/Motorbike/Scotland/P1020068.JPG)
So was Austria,
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/803897/Austria/WebPics/P1050424.JPG)
We moan about a little ice here, got some great memories from that road trip!
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/803897/Austria/WebPics/P1050361.JPG)
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....Again. Poxy inbox ain't big enough. ::)
Anyway, where was we...? :)
Dont worry too much,Its only tunnie after your used tyres with 0.25mm worth of legal tread on them
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Of course, I could be wrong. ::) ::) ::) ::)
I try to do 5 holidays a year, last year only managed 3 :(
January - Week Snowboarding in French Alps
May - Week touring Scotland on the bike.
July - Week in Private Villa, with pool with MrsT in Crete.
This year only done one so far, week in the Austrian Alps. Suspect that it for this year, as buying a house in Surrey is expensive ::)
£500,000 buys a hovel. :-\
You must be in the top three of the ' Wealthy OOF'ers list', Mr Tunnie. :D :D :D ;)
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;D ;D ;D ;D
Doubt that very much!
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....Again. Poxy inbox ain't big enough. ::)
Buy me some disks and some memory, and I'll double it :P
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....Again. Poxy inbox ain't big enough. ::)
Buy me some disks and some memory, and I'll double it :P
...instead of V8 ;D
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....Again. Poxy inbox ain't big enough. ::)
Anyway, where was we...? :)
Dont worry too much,Its only tunnie after your used tyres with 0.25mm worth of legal tread on them
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Since 2008, when I first joined OOF, I've gathered the impression that Mr Tunnie isn't exactly generous with his cash. ;) :)
Of course, I could be wrong. ::) ::) ::) ::)
How dare you speak of tunnie like that. :o :o
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....Again. Poxy inbox ain't big enough. ::)
Buy me some disks and some memory, and I'll double it :P
See, management need to remember what conversations they've had in the past, especially when being "economical" with the truth, because eventually the situation will arise where the opposite answer to the one previously given will arise when answering the exact same question.
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I find this to be true of all management, regardless of the walk of life. Sigh....
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PMSL... I remember the conversation you refer to :-X ::)
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Well, it made me chuckle :D
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But, seriously, I think 100 is an adequate limit. In fact, quite generous for a free resource :-\
If it really isn't enough, and members can demonstrate that they are housekeeping PMs, we can discuss increases.
But with just shy of 90,000 PMs in people's PM boxes, increases could potentially/likely cause performance/stability problems. Although the current software handles it more efficiently than the old software, the more in the system, the heavier the loading.
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There are discussions on projects ongoing that I am reluctant to delete currently, although I agree fully with what your saying, on both fronts... ::) you did say you would NOT accept financial contributions from members towards the running of Oof.
So which is it?
What ever the answer, one way or the other, it will be in the negative. So lets just settle on the hypothetical and leave it there. Shall we? ;D
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There are discussions on projects ongoing that I am reluctant to delete currently, although I agree fully with what your saying, on both fronts... ::) you did say you would NOT accept financial contributions from members towards the running of Oof.
So which is it?
What ever the answer, one way or the other, it will be in the negative. So lets just settle on the hypothetical and leave it there. Shall we? ;D
Why TB... Dedicated members who have fed off this forum,(like me) have little to give back,And want to contribute in some way..And the best way is to pay into the up keep of the forum that helps them maintain there car,
But we cannot do that because your old fashioned..Set in your ways..
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And, very very busy, to be fair. ;) Which is probably more to do with it. Especially now with his "new garage" :y
Somebody has to sit down and physically account for every last bean. Then there's, I suppose, the sense of ownership that might follow, and therefor the idea that contributors have more say than they actually do. Perhaps? :-\
Management like a simple life. They like to put feet up and have everything happen around them. Which is fine, if your unpaid to do so.
On the other hand, and this is my thoughts, they should be paid or have some reward or benefit for the time and effort they put in. A contribution deserves a return. IMO.
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But, seriously, I think 100 is an adequate limit. In fact, quite generous for a free resource :-\
If it really isn't enough, and members can demonstrate that they are housekeeping PMs, we can discuss increases.
But with just shy of 90,000 PMs in people's PM boxes, increases could potentially/likely cause performance/stability problems. Although the current software handles it more efficiently than the old software, the more in the system, the heavier the loading.
agreed
however, as financial conditions are tight for every country, I dont see any point in refusing some help for costs involved.. So I will gladly pay my share if you accept :y
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I've tried this before, and it was not accepted, but would be quite happy to make a contribution. I understand that 'management' wish it to remain a free forum, with which I concur, but one off contributions for projects such as inbox memory should be acceptable. ??? :y
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OK, I've had my fun. I was envisaging poor ol' Gixer in PC World asking to buy some disks and RAM, and a blank look on his face as he's then bombarded with questions about types, size, specs etc ;D. I think we all know, despite all his wealth of talent and knowledge, very little of it lays with computing ::)
My own personal feelings, and not necessarily the view of the Admin Team, on the subject of donations or subscriptions are that it causes division that fractures the community. Our members are more than capable of causing division without the admins building brick walls to assist ::)
Donations cause a problem in that it creates a conflict of interest when a donator steps outside the rules.
Subscriptions need to give something "extra" in order to entice members to subscribe. Those that wish not to subscribe therefore lose out, thus creating 2 tiers. I've spoken at length about this before, so won't repeat, other than reiterate that everyone here is equal, from 77k post verterans to todays Newbies.
So, to clarify, I'm against the idea. But I am just 1 of 6 members of the Admin Team. So my thoughts count for abround 17% ;)
We have accepted a hardware donation from a member, sadly not on so much now. So to say donations are a complete no-no isn't entirely correct. If you work in the right arena and have access to certain parts that would otherwise be thrown out, or can be purchased (by OOF) cheap, we're all ears. BUT it must not cost the member anything, and will have no impact on their membership/status here.
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OK, I've had my fun. I was envisaging poor ol' Gixer in PC World asking to buy some disks and RAM, and a blank look on his face as he's then bombarded with questions about types, size, specs etc ;D. I think we all know, despite all his wealth of talent and knowledge, very little of it lays with computing ::)
Lets hope you step into the world of my profession one day. Then we'll see who can win the "who can be the most arrogant" competition ;D
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Valid points though. But still, only half the argument. ;)
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It costs £22 each year, not a one off payment, to become a member of the RX8 forum and it was shite, so I didn't sign Mrs Opti up to it.
Problem was this. The members that paid the £22 looked down on the 'browsers' (who were only allowed access to a small part of the forum) and treated them like lepers. :-\ :-\
The Mazda RX8 forum a two-tier society if ever there was one......*ankers. >:(
Personally I'd be willing to pay, but as TB states, it will cause as many problems as it solves. :y
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Bah, we have that scouser eejit Esta for that.
So no problem there. ;D
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Bah, we have that scouser eejit Esta for that.
So no problem there. ;D
Oi, Gayboy, don't bring me into your personal squabbles. I'm not paying a penny. In fact, the forum should pay me. :P
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Bah, we have that scouser eejit Esta for that.
So no problem there. ;D
Oi, Gayboy, don't bring me into your personal squabbles. I'm not paying a penny. In fact, the forum should pay me. :P
And why should you?... ::) ::) ::) This is not a Daewoo forum,......oops sorry, I mean Chevrolet forum. :)
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Have to agree, donations would create two tier setup. Only way would be if they were anonymous, then members cannot take the high ground.
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Bah, we have that scouser eejit Esta for that.
So no problem there. ;D
Oi, Gayboy, don't bring me into your personal squabbles. I'm not paying a penny. In fact, the forum should pay me. :P
And why should you?... ::) ::) ::) This is not a Daewoo forum,......oops sorry, I mean Chevrolet forum. :)
It's no more than a fat astra J.
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Bah, we have that scouser eejit Esta for that.
So no problem there. ;D
Oi, Gayboy, don't bring me into your personal squabbles. I'm not paying a penny. In fact, the forum should pay me. :P
And why should you?... ::) ::) ::) This is not a Daewoo forum,......oops sorry, I mean Chevrolet forum. :)
It's no more than a fugly astra J.
Fixed :y
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Have to agree, donations would create two tier setup. Only way would be if they were anonymous, then members cannot take the high ground.
But even then, some donators would potentially feel a sense of entitlement :-\
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Have to agree, donations would create two tier setup. Only way would be if they were anonymous, then members cannot take the high ground.
But even then, some donators would potentially feel a sense of entitlement :-\
Maybe, I guess some can say "I've donated, so bla"
Can't see how else you can do it though? :-\
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Hence TB steadfast position on the whole subject :y
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Hence TB steadfast position on the whole subject :y
Have to agree with that, although one thought is a fee for listing item(s) for sale?
This is no dig at anyone here at-all, simply thinking ways forum could generate funds if needed. But people do generate money from the forum, be it a car, or a part. A small fee/charge to simply list an item?
That way it does not give any "high ground" - You simple pay to list in For Sale?
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In theory, yes. But in practice that becomes 'I've paid to list summat, so I shall list what ever I want, regardless of it's relevance' :-\
Any such 'chargeable' item causes issues for the Forum as a whole, as you are then into the realms of running a business, which is a whole world away from the benevolent principles on which the Forum is based, and by and large, run :y
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Very true, although you could state the fee is only to list Omega related parts, not a free for all.
There are some border line business items at the moment, such as the shop? I understand that helps fund the forum a little.
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Very true, although you could state the fee is only to list Omega related parts, not a free for all.
There are some border line business items at the moment, such as the shop? I understand that helps fund the forum a little.
The shop may well be run as a separate entity, certainly the link to it takes you away from the Forum, also things like Tech2 services are justifiably chargeable, given the cost of the units, and the ability to use them to full and good effect :y
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OK, I've had my fun. I was envisaging poor ol' Gixer in PC World asking to buy some disks and RAM, and a blank look on his face as he's then bombarded with questions about types, size, specs etc ;D. I think we all know, despite all his wealth of talent and knowledge, very little of it lays with computing ::)
Lets hope you step into the world of my profession one day. Then we'll see who can win the "who can be the most arrogant" competition ;D
Opps, errr, yes, I can see it could come across that way, sorry if it did, that certainly wasn't my intention :-[
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Hence TB steadfast position on the whole subject :y
You give me more credit than I deserve. As previously stated, I'm just one of 4/6 (depending on the subject being discussed).
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OK, I've had my fun. I was envisaging poor ol' Gixer in PC World asking to buy some disks and RAM, and a blank look on his face as he's then bombarded with questions about types, size, specs etc ;D. I think we all know, despite all his wealth of talent and knowledge, very little of it lays with computing ::)
Lets hope you step into the world of my profession one day. Then we'll see who can win the "who can be the most arrogant" competition ;D
Opps, errr, yes, I can see it could come across that way, sorry if it did, that certainly wasn't my intention :-[
Er... :-\ didn't mean it quite as firmly as that, honest. We don't have a tongue in cheak smiley do we. :(
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OK, I've had my fun. I was envisaging poor ol' Gixer in PC World asking to buy some disks and RAM, and a blank look on his face as he's then bombarded with questions about types, size, specs etc ;D. I think we all know, despite all his wealth of talent and knowledge, very little of it lays with computing ::)
Lets hope you step into the world of my profession one day. Then we'll see who can win the "who can be the most arrogant" competition ;D
Opps, errr, yes, I can see it could come across that way, sorry if it did, that certainly wasn't my intention :-[
Er... :-\ didn't mean it quite as firmly as that, honest. We don't have a tongue in cheak smiley do we. :(
This is the nearest I use for a don't-take-me-seriously... :P
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Ok, hang on.
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OK, I've had my fun. I was envisaging poor ol' Gixer in PC World asking to buy some disks and RAM, and a blank look on his face as he's then bombarded with questions about types, size, specs etc ;D. I think we all know, despite all his wealth of talent and knowledge, very little of it lays with computing ::)
Lets hope you step into the world of my profession one day. Then we'll see who can win the "who can be the most arrogant" competition :P
;D
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Hence TB steadfast position on the whole subject :y
You give me more credit than I deserve. As previously stated, I'm just one of 4/6 (depending on the subject being discussed).
Given the nature of the Forum, it would not be beyond the realms of possibility that all four sixths of you are of a broadly alike mind ::)
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Hence TB steadfast position on the whole subject :y
You give me more credit than I deserve. As previously stated, I'm just one of 4/6 (depending on the subject being discussed).
Given the nature of the Forum, it would not be beyond the realms of possibility that all four sixths of you are of a broadly alike mind ::)
I believe they do on this subject, though not asked them recently.
I was planning a mini AGM for Newent, and as this had raised its head, was going to be on agenda. However time constraints pre-Newent, and on the night, made it impossible :-[
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I thought this was about mr gixer. As when i was driving along the A329m towards reading i noticed some graffiti tags on the bridges that were "GXR"
Should have got some photographic proof. We
Well reading is his manor. ;D
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Having been down that road on a forum elsewhere, as admin, I have to agree with TB, it can make it very difficult.... nigh on impossible not to create a two or three tier effect in the community...... however, that's not to say it is impossible to accept donations.... given very clear and concise stipulations.
a paypal account, with a link to it in the forum rules, and a stipulation that anonymous donations must never be revealed or even alluded to, even in jest, and that management will use inverse moderation and regulation on anyone doing so..... eg, come down harder rather than softer if they step out of line. and that waving it about will result in a ban... or at very least post count reset, perhaps depending on how out of line the member has been.....
there's a risk that the puerile might start a new sport, trying to find the line, so personally i'd just ban them.
be clear from the outset that no one is ever above the rules, and the grown ups will go along with it.... anyone stupid enough to step outside of that deserves the idiotting they're gonna get.
those of us that feel Jaime and co should at least not have to fork out of their own pockets, can support them, and any residuals , if there are such, can be used each year at newent for a curry and beer.
no one of any sense is going to insist on full accountings...... it's simply a "club pot" , not income for the admins....
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Back to topic again, gixer's inbox is full again ;D
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Back to topic again, gixer's inbox is full again ;D
;D done ;D
Aaaaaaaaaaah! ;D