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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: MaxV6 on 28 September 2013, 22:24:21
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are there any brands that are considered "okay if you must and money is tight" ?
for example.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/D3400-DRIVE-FAN-BELT-TENSIONER-KIT-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-3-2-V6-EST-01-04-/370872070806?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega%7CCars+Type%3A3.2+V6&hash=item5659b2b296 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/D3400-DRIVE-FAN-BELT-TENSIONER-KIT-VAUXHALL-OMEGA-3-2-V6-EST-01-04-/370872070806?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AVauxhall%7CModel%3AOmega%7CCars+Type%3A3.2+V6&hash=item5659b2b296)
i'm just looking to get the Mv6 fully sorted for the short term.....
so i've spotted cam belt kits, aux drive belt and tensioner kits...
amongst other things....
one thing i won't skimp on is the crank sensor..... that story i know too well.....
but money is very very tight..... so.....
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I believe Gates is a recommended brand and made them for GM :-\
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Yup gates are one that makes for the original as are contitech buypartsby.co.uk are very good for value :y
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Yup, thats good.
Genuine parts, are generally just gaskets and sensors now :y
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Gates are an oe supplier for cam belts. :y
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Any other brands that are considered "okay" ???
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Depends what you are buying, TBH.
Cam belt kits - SKF, Gates and Contitech are for all intents identical to OEM.
Aux belts - whatever the local factors sell.
Aux belt tensioner - try re-greasing the old one if it's not too far gone.
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Any other brands that are considered "okay" ???
Ok? No not just ok. Oe suppliers are what you want. Ie, the manufacturers that supply Gm/Vx. So your then getting oe parts but cheaper than dealer prices. Some are cheaper from the dealer on tc, like plugs and oil. Others just swallow the bill and pay dealer prices, like hbv's and cam cover gaskets.
So you need to be clear what parts are needed. Cam belt kits, as said, Gates, conti, skf all supplied GM.
Wishbones and bushes where supplied by lemforder.
Shocks and springs where boge I think?
Coil pacs bosch.
Etc... See? :)
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okay, so an SKF cam belt kit is okay?
jobs...
Drive belt, and tensioner, cam belt, water pump, crank sensor, possibly secondary O2 sensor... I've already done the HBV
that will do for now....
I'm prepared to buy the lot at TC via Andy, but, although he does his best, if i can save 25% on certain items, then i need to..... we have another house move in the offing, and i've just had to replace my laptop for work purposes after it had an accident, ..... (and hi spec mac book pro's are not cheap and do not grow on trees) so spare money simply does not exist.
i'd quite like to be able to feed the wife and kids this month.
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Afaik,Andy is no longer supplying TC/discount parts to OOFers. ;)
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SKF don't make belts, and Gates and Contitech don't make bearings. So you are after kits with Gates or Conti belts AND SKF bearings, if that makes sense?
Now egay is universally full of scum, so I'd be wary buying *anything* important from there. There is an awful lot of fake stuff from there, and a lot of stuff that is advertised only bearing half of the truth.
I generally use Conti kits (for cambelts) from buypartsby, approx £80.
AndyC is unable to do TC any more :'(, I'm fairly convinced that TC will be wound up soon.
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SKF do make SKF branded cam belt kits. They contain SKF bearings (as the OE ones do) and gates belts, from memory, so they are fine.
Has the water pump actually failed? I'd leave it be if not. There have been some poor quality pattern and OEM parts around recently, so I wouldn't replace one unless it failed personally.
What has gone wrong with the aux belt tensioner? If it's just the pulley bearing, then prise the dust covers off and re-grease it, otherwise get a genuine replacement wheel on TC (not the whole assembly!). If the sprung tensioner bracket assembly has gone, get a second hand one.
Crank sensor - genuine on TC.
O2 sensor. If post-cat, not worth messing about unless you get the bosses moved behind the main cats. Then get 2nd hand or cheap pattern generic sensor and mod the wiring.
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Re water pump, slacken off the aux belt tensioner with a long handled 15mm socket and check the water pump by spinning it, check for any play and any roughness in the baring.
Then only buy one if needed, but you'll probably find its ok. Mine was fine at 102,000miles as a guide.
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O2 sensor, the sensors are already moved, did that 2-3 years ago...
can;t recall if water pump was done at same time as last cam belt, so figured i'd best get it changed as a matter of course.... as i'm getting the cam belt done... (although not due for another 4k, so it COULD wait.... but if there's work going on in there, might as well be thorough....
, right, so, an SKF camblet kit, that gates drive belt kit,
i've been using eGay to find decent prices, but then i usually contact seller direct if they're a "reputable supplier" they nearly always have an external system ...
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i'd add that the belt tensioner , might or might not be knackered.... but the belt rattles in a bearing-y sort of way.... and slips(screams ) when you put load on via alternator.... and this is a one shot fix session..... so... don't want to stick a belt on, then find the tensioner needs doing.., i want it to go in sick, and come out fixed, with no question marks.
AND with windscreen wipers attached...
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If you buy an Aux Belt kit from SKF you get the complete tensioner assembly, water pump and aux belt.
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ordered skf cambelt kit and gates aux belt kit...... can anyone provide a link to the correct O2 sensors ?
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Genuine Bosch
Same sensor from a factor could be had from a factor for £50 odd last I looked. So ring around quote your cheapest price each time, then go back to the first guy and see if he'll match.
All parts in slough are good that way, if you have one near you?
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AND with windscreen wipers attached...
Oi! I said I was drunk sorry >:( ;D ;D
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Crank sensor - genuine on TC.
What is a genuine crank sensor? I bought a Siemens one from an ebay supplier last year for about £40 and it's started to play up already! >:(
Mind you it started just after I'd changed the dispack so the wire had been disturbed, which I was told can kill them. ::)
Anyway I thought that the genuine crank sensors were either Bosch or Siemens? :-\
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Vx only. You got a vx dealer near that cave Sir Digger?
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Choice of 2!! :) The Mig is better served in terms of parts and servicing than I am round here!! ;D
So this isn't correct then Mr Gix? ??? ::)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=96562.0
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bloody ebay sellers, ordered (and paid for ) the cam belt kit now 3 times, from 3 different "sellers" only to have it refunded and a message saying they don't have the part in stock for my car?
these three different companies turn out to be the same place..... (confirmed by message)
but of course, while paypal TAKE your money instantly, they don;t refund it as quickly.... thru the card system, so i'm out by about £270 till the refunds go thru...
idiots..
orderpartsby don;t specify the make of the cambelt kit they supply, although they do at least list 2 kits, one before engine number xxxxxx and another after it.... (mine is the one before )
anyone know if it will be a decent one,??
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AND with windscreen wipers attached...
Oi! I said I was drunk sorry >:( ;D ;D
not nearly as drunk as James and Tunnie were :D
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Choice of 2!! :) The Mig is better served in terms of parts and servicing than I am round here!! ;D
So this isn't correct then Mr Gix? ??? ::)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=96562.0
The information there IS correct, as is what Chris was saying :y
Use those part numbers to order the next sensor from Vauxhall, not Ebay :y
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Choice of 2!! :) The Mig is better served in terms of parts and servicing than I am round here!! ;D
So this isn't correct then Mr Gix? ??? ::)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=96562.0
The information there IS correct, as is what Chris was saying :y
Use those part numbers to order the next sensor from Vauxhall, not Ebay :y
Why do people even use ebay? Its full of muppets and crap. They buy the crap from muppets then wonder why what was purchased is crap and call the seller a muppet. The Muppets. ;D
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bloody ebay sellers, ordered (and paid for ) the cam belt kit now 3 times, from 3 different "sellers" only to have it refunded and a message saying they don't have the part in stock for my car?
these three different companies turn out to be the same place..... (confirmed by message)
but of course, while paypal TAKE your money instantly, they don;t refund it as quickly.... thru the card system, so i'm out by about £270 till the refunds go thru...
idiots..
orderpartsby don;t specify the make of the cambelt kit they supply, although they do at least list 2 kits, one before engine number xxxxxx and another after it.... (mine is the one before )
anyone know if it will be a decent one,??
Buypartsby is a contitech as far as I know :y
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Choice of 2!! :) The Mig is better served in terms of parts and servicing than I am round here!! ;D
So this isn't correct then Mr Gix? ??? ::)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=96562.0
The information there IS correct, as is what Chris was saying :y
Use those part numbers to order the next sensor from Vauxhall, not Ebay :y
Why do people even use ebay? Its full of muppets and crap. They buy the crap from muppets then wonder why what was purchased is crap and call the seller a muppet. The Muppets. ;D
So being the Muppet I am, I might have gone and bought a fake Siemens crank sensor from some muppet on ebay..... :-\
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Choice of 2!! :) The Mig is better served in terms of parts and servicing than I am round here!! ;D
So this isn't correct then Mr Gix? ??? ::)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=96562.0
The information there IS correct, as is what Chris was saying :y
Use those part numbers to order the next sensor from Vauxhall, not Ebay :y
Why do people even use ebay? Its full of muppets and crap. They buy the crap from muppets then wonder why what was purchased is crap and call the seller a muppet. The Muppets. ;D
So being the Muppet I am, I might have gone and bought a fake Siemens crank sensor from some muppet on ebay..... :-\
Maybe. You'll never see the core members here recommend buying sensors off ebay.
Was it fitted the oof way, tied up away from the exhaust?
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i'm one of the two cranky old guys in the balcony..... (think Chris might be the other one :D )
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Crank sensor - genuine on TC.
What is a genuine crank sensor? I bought a Siemens one from an ebay supplier last year for about £40 and it's started to play up already! >:(
Mind you it started just after I'd changed the dispack so the wire had been disturbed, which I was told can kill them. ::)
Anyway I thought that the genuine crank sensors were either Bosch or Siemens? :-\
Accept if its on ebay, its fake. If it turns out to be genuine, you're lucky.
Dealer!
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Statler and Waldorf? ;D
www.youtube.com/watch?v=14njUwJUg1I
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Can confirm that the BuyPartsBy cambelt kits are Conti as have just had two from them :y
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Choice of 2!! :) The Mig is better served in terms of parts and servicing than I am round here!! ;D
So this isn't correct then Mr Gix? ??? ::)
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=96562.0
The information there IS correct, as is what Chris was saying :y
Use those part numbers to order the next sensor from Vauxhall, not Ebay :y
Why do people even use ebay? Its full of muppets and crap. They buy the crap from muppets then wonder why what was purchased is crap and call the seller a muppet. The Muppets. ;D
So being the Muppet I am, I might have gone and bought a fake Siemens crank sensor from some muppet on ebay..... :-\
Maybe. You'll never see the core members here recommend buying sensors off ebay.
Was it fitted the oof way, tied up away from the exhaust?
Yup! :y
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yup chris, reckon that's us....
or you and TB , on my days off,... :D
you don;t get days off....