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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: irishomega on 21 November 2013, 18:12:56
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Something thats had me wondering for a while now,is there an exact spec for a 3.0 or 3.2 mv6 omega ?i have noticed on the 1999 to 2003 mv6s the front bumpers and interiors ect are different on some compared to others,can someone shed more light on this for me?
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Have a quick look at this, it only covers the basics;
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90488.0
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Less toys. "sports" type seats. Slightly lower & stiffer suspension. That's it. A pointless model imo.
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The only thing I liked and would keep from the MV6 was the silver trim around the stereo/ gearstick areas. Much better looking than the fake wood.
And the name, MV6, quite like that.
Other than that though, nowt to shout about.
in the unlikely event I ever buy another Omega, it would be an Elite.
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In the UK, Vauxhall, most of the 3.0 Police were know as and called MV6, although were basic GLS bodies with added changes deepening on the Force. In Ireland a few of the early Police 3.0 allegedly had Turbo's fitted to them by Countenay Sport. Latter 3.2 Police were know as Specials.
Other MV6's (non Police) are also known as MV6 Factory Fit, which were in affect CDX Spec but with Lowered and Stiffer suspension, Sport Seats, and Prodrive Bumper and rear Spoilers (FL), additional options where Leather Interior, Cruise Control, Sunroof and Sat Nav upgrades.
In Europe, Opel, MV6's are slightly different spec to the UK one, not sure what Opel got up to in IR with the MV6's though but guessing similar to the Vauxhall spec.
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The mv6 is the sport model with a v engine. Sport model with a 2.2 engine is called, of all things, a 2.2 sport.
There was a facelift between the model years you mention so that will account for the vast majority of the differences.
But basically, a sport model in any guise will consist of minimal interior toys according to the fashion at the time of manufacture and firmer suspension to prevent role in the corners. Sadly the omega sport/mv6 did not get any engine tuning. No model did, including the plod cars according to legend here.
The items of value in an mv6, especially the facelift with lowered sports chassis, is the suspension, and possibly the leather sport seats. Hence the breakers don't see much value in them. But to drive, they are a world apart compared to the softest sprung omega in the range. The Elite.
If buying either an Elite or an Mv6 and your anything like me, you'll want the best of both worlds. So then base your purchase on your personal skills. If your good with electrics, by the mv6 and upgrade the toys.
If like me. Your crap with electrics and better with the spanners, by the elite and upgrade the suspension. Seems far easier to me. ;)
Tbh, I would say, the mv6 is by far the best handling car in the omega range.
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I disagree . Having had the Elite and now the MV6 , the MV6 wins hands down on everything :P :P :P Who needs a rear blind :D
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I disagree . Having had the Elite and now the MV6 , the MV6 wins hands down on everything :P :P :P Who needs a rear blind :D
Anyone who wants to fit one ::) dear oh dear ;D
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Na, sat nav and toys slow elite down ;D Although quite happy with both working front electric cloth seats :)
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Na, sat nav and toys slow elite down ;D Although quite happy with both working front electric cloth seats :)
Are you cem in a hat? ;D ;)
That's the point of a sport model. Except the omega sport model still as ac, for some daft reason, and in some cases a sun roof, although holes are lighter obviously ;) ::) ;D
I'm getting dizzy here ;D
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Ive got a sunroof and air/con :( , best rip the bloody things out ... slowing me down , golden bullet innit :D Just 6 pots and no toys is all you need , no not welding the doors up .
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But surely if you want a fast car you don't buy an Omega ? Definitely built for comfort,so might as well have all the comfort you can get. :-\
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But surely if you want a fast car you don't buy an Omega ? Definitely built for comfort,so might as well have all the comfort you can get. :-\
Oi , you made me buy it ;D 60 fast enough for me :D
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But surely if you want a fast car you don't buy an Omega ? Definitely built for comfort,so might as well have all the comfort you can get. :-\
Oi , you made me buy it ;D 60 fast enough for me :D
Hold on. Albs made you buy a pointless model?
He's clearly not in sales then, as the face lift mv6 is the one to have. Far superior. ;)
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But surely if you want a fast car you don't buy an Omega ? Definitely built for comfort,so might as well have all the comfort you can get. :-\
Oi , you made me buy it ;D 60 fast enough for me :D
Didn't make you buy it. :P ;D...........just pointed out that it might be the kind of thing you were looking for. Looked a decent enough car tbh,but I still think the MV6 as a model is pointless. Lower it an inch or so,leave out some toys,put in some semi bucket seats and label it as a sports model. A bit silly imo.
Its still huge,heavy and not that powerful. ;)
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But surely if you want a fast car you don't buy an Omega ? Definitely built for comfort,so might as well have all the comfort you can get. :-\
Oi , you made me buy it ;D 60 fast enough for me :D
Hold on. Albs made you buy a pointless model?
He's clearly not in sales then, as the face lift mv6 is the one to have. Far superior. ;)
Cant really comment on f/l as only ever driven a 2.6 MV6 but not for long , all i know is the Mv6 seats are far more comfier than the elites :)
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But surely if you want a fast car you don't buy an Omega ? Definitely built for comfort,so might as well have all the comfort you can get. :-\
Oi , you made me buy it ;D 60 fast enough for me :D
Didn't make you buy it. :P ;D...........just pointed out that it might be the kind of thing you were looking for. Looked a decent enough car tbh,but I still think the MV6 as a model is pointless. Lower it an inch or so,leave out some toys,put in some semi bucket seats and label it as a sports model. A bit silly imo.
Its still huge,heavy and not that powerful. ;)
FYI, the pre face lift mv6 is not lowered. ;)
So even more pointless then. ;D
Mv6 seats make the back of my legs ache. Much rather have the elite base. Possibly with the mv6 backs. :)
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It's not called 'Far inferior' for nowt ::)
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Its point'y , much sharper steering imo :) superior p/f of course :-*
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Its point'y , much sharper steering imo :) superior p/f of course :-*
Due to firmer suspension :)
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Far from pointless, yes, no Omega is a sports car but I expect a car to do basic things like follow steering inputs without wallowing all over the place. MV6 has the only Omega suspension I could live with and the only seats I could live with. An additional bonus is that most of the pointless gadgets like the sun roof are binned so you don't have the hassle when they inevitably break. :y
Well, that's my take on it, anyway. ;)
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You've sort of convinced me Kevin. You should have been a salesman. ;D
If you want to experience an Omega that takes no notice of steering input you should try mine at the moment. Shagged wishbone bushes,and probably steering idler,possiby something bent from hitting a big pothole hard enough to burst a tyre,and now an odd pair of tyres on the front,one of which is wearing away quickly on the inside edge.
I towed the 190 Merc home on a trailer recently from south Croydon. Mile after mile in the lorry ruts in lane 1,with the bloody thing tramlining like you wouldn't believe, causing the trailer to do an impression of a tail trying to wag the dog. Was a stressful two and a half hours. ;D ::) ;D
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Hmm. Perhaps I'll give that one a miss, if you don't mind, Albs. ;)
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Far from pointless, yes, no Omega is a sports car but I expect a car to do basic things like follow steering inputs without wallowing all over the place. MV6 has the only Omega suspension I could live with and the only seats I could live with. An additional bonus is that most of the pointless gadgets like the sun roof are binned so you don't have the hassle when they inevitably break. :y
Well, that's my take on it, anyway. ;)
Tip top spot on , ill take my hat off to that (http://straightrazorplace.com/attachments/site-help-comments-suggestions/105576d1346839293-can-we-have-little-smiley-face-little-man-taking-his-hat-off-hatsoff.gif)
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Far from pointless, yes, no Omega is a sports car but I expect a car to do basic things like follow steering inputs without wallowing all over the place. MV6 has the only Omega suspension I could live with and the only seats I could live with. An additional bonus is that most of the pointless gadgets like the sun roof are binned so you don't have the hassle when they inevitably break. :y
Well, that's my take on it, anyway. ;)
Tip top spot on , ill take my hat off to that (http://straightrazorplace.com/attachments/site-help-comments-suggestions/105576d1346839293-can-we-have-little-smiley-face-little-man-taking-his-hat-off-hatsoff.gif)
But your is far inferior pre face lift. Kevs being the completely superior face lift, naturally. 8)
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Far from pointless, yes, no Omega is a sports car but I expect a car to do basic things like follow steering inputs without wallowing all over the place. MV6 has the only Omega suspension I could live with and the only seats I could live with. An additional bonus is that most of the pointless gadgets like the sun roof are binned so you don't have the hassle when they inevitably break. :y
Well, that's my take on it, anyway. ;)
Tip top spot on , ill take my hat off to that (http://straightrazorplace.com/attachments/site-help-comments-suggestions/105576d1346839293-can-we-have-little-smiley-face-little-man-taking-his-hat-off-hatsoff.gif)
But your is far inferior pre face lift. Kevs being the completely superior face lift, naturally. 8)
I love my p/f and its working heated seats ;D Soo comfy like sitting in armchair and of course the one foot driving is a pleasure :-*
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Far from pointless, yes, no Omega is a sports car but I expect a car to do basic things like follow steering inputs without wallowing all over the place. MV6 has the only Omega suspension I could live with and the only seats I could live with. An additional bonus is that most of the pointless gadgets like the sun roof are binned so you don't have the hassle when they inevitably break. :y
Well, that's my take on it, anyway. ;)
Tip top spot on , ill take my hat off to that (http://straightrazorplace.com/attachments/site-help-comments-suggestions/105576d1346839293-can-we-have-little-smiley-face-little-man-taking-his-hat-off-hatsoff.gif)
But your is far inferior pre face lift. Kevs being the completely superior face lift, naturally. 8)
I love my p/f and its working heated seats ;D Soo comfy like sitting in armchair and of course the one foot driving is a pleasure :-*
Yes I loved my pf cdx when I had it. :y
But the face lift I love even more. :)
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Glad I got an Mv6 then, I Think ;)
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Glad I got an Mv6 then, I Think ;)
Well that's a turn up. You've done nout but moan about the bloody thing every time I meet you. ;D
Done that suspension yet? (I know you've done a few jobs recently, but memory fails :-[ )
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Glad I got an Mv6 then, I Think ;)
You did the right thing , dont listen to them lot with elites :P :P :P :P ;D
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They should have called the 2.2 Sport the M-Des! :)
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They should have called the 2.2 Sport the M-Des! :)
.. or the "only joking". ;D
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I will have another mv6, comfy drive,seats are very good,but would prefer a manual next time.
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I will have another mv6, comfy drive,seats are very good,but would prefer a manual next time.
But you will need 3 feet for that ::) ;D
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just swapped back to the 2.2 manual, nice to have it back again. Have to say in winter, cloth seats are far better. Don't look as good, but much more comfy!
If I was looking again, think it would have to be a 2.6 manual MV6 :)
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They should have called the 2.2 Sport the M-Des! :)
.. or the "only joking". ;D
The 'Vauxhall Omega Irony Edition' perhaps...
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just swapped back to the 2.2 manual, nice to have it back again. Have to say in winter, cloth seats are far better. Don't look as good, but much more comfy!
If I was looking again, think it would have to be a 2.6 manual MV6 :)
3.2 manual, would be better :)
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just swapped back to the 2.2 manual, nice to have it back again. Have to say in winter, cloth seats are far better. Don't look as good, but much more comfy!
If I was looking again, think it would have to be a 2.6 manual MV6 :)
3.2 manual, would be better :)
That means plod spec :(
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just swapped back to the 2.2 manual, nice to have it back again. Have to say in winter, cloth seats are far better. Don't look as good, but much more comfy!
If I was looking again, think it would have to be a 2.6 manual MV6 :)
3.2 manual, would be better :)
That means plod spec :(
Problem is there's a big performance drop to a 2.6. Out of proportion to its' fuel consumption IMHO.
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True. I just don't think I could live with a plod butchered interior day to day. I know it's all swappable, but nothing beats factory fit.
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Plod spec cars have thier advantages of thorough maintenance, but sadly they are far from carfull in service. Two areas I'm not so good with, such as electrics and body work seem to suffer big time on the ones I've seen at auction, and the interiors are so basic... I'd prefer a retail omega by miles personally, especially given the omegas poor manual box/clutch combo compared to the relative refinement of the auto.
...but each to thier own, as they say. :y
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just swapped back to the 2.2 manual, nice to have it back again. Have to say in winter, cloth seats are far better. Don't look as good, but much more comfy!
If I was looking again, think it would have to be a 2.6 manual MV6 :)
3.2 manual, would be better :)
That means plod spec :(
Problem is there's a big performance drop to a 2.6. Out of proportion to its' fuel consumption IMHO.
Agreed. In the unlikely event I buy another Omega, I cant imagine buying anything but a 3.2. 2.5/ 2.6 is underpowered for the weight of the car imo, giving sluggish performance and no real advantage in fuel economy.
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3.0 what you need ::) ;) with far superior fuel economy :P
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Blackviper and I went to look at my potential next purchase yesterday. The car was an 03 2.6 Mv6 with leather and cruise upgrade. :y
To say I was drooling and fell in love with would be an understatement ;D :D
Just liked the look, feel, and spec of the Mv6....... I'm used to Cd's or Cdx's so the Mv6 is definately a step in the right direction. :D
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Blackviper and I went to look at my potential next purchase yesterday. The car was an 03 2.6 Mv6 with leather and cruise upgrade. :y
To say I was drooling and fell in love with would be an understatement ;D :D
Just liked the look, feel, and spec of the Mv6....... I'm used to Cd's or Cdx's so the Mv6 is definately a step in the right direction. :D
It makes sense (http://www.discussionworldforum.com/forum/images/smilies/pat9xu.gif)
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I don't understand the aversion to Plod cars :-\
They are the perfect base for producing a car created to your own specification. They're available manual and auto, and being mostly white, they scub up a treat, but also a good base colour should you want to change it :y
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I don't understand the aversion to Plod cars :-\
They are the perfect base for producing a car created to your own specification. They're available manual and auto, and being mostly white, they scub up a treat, but also a good base colour should you want to change it :y
Buy them all up, mate, you'll make a killing :y
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I don't understand the aversion to Plod cars :-\
They are the perfect base for producing a car created to your own specification. They're available manual and auto, and being mostly white, they scub up a treat, but also a good base colour should you want to change it :y
Buy them all up, mate, you'll make a killing :y
If I had the space/cash to, I would. Gladly :y There are more than enough 3 series Beemers for the dickheads to destroy :-X
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Sounds nice that does Paul. The seats in the mv6 look the part for me. I like the leather but they look much snugger! :)
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Sounds nice that does Paul. The seats in the mv6 look the part for me. I like the leather but they look much snugger! :)
bit late arriving on this thread as usual ;D ;D but . . . . I got hold of a set of elite leather seats to replace the cloth
ones in my FL MV6 . . . . Only had them in for 2 days gave me terrible backache . i tried all possible combinations of seat
height & rake etc. to no avail .
Switched back to the MV6 cloth ones . . .much more comfy IMO
Also on the MV6 vs Elite debate . . . I have had 3 elites & liked them all very much . . . but after driving this MV6 I
would definately stick with another MV6 if the day comes when I need to get another omega. handling is from another world
compared to the elite set up
I really don't miss the elite "toys" & have fitted my own Tom tom sat nav head unit to the system which was already fully
wired & bracketed to the car when I got it . Also great colour IMO (Black)
But main point of this post is that MV6 seats are so much better IMO :y
Only down side for me is the 2.6 lump . . . as always wanted a 3.2 . Like the slush box though ;) ;)
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Yep, standard Elite leather is pants, especially if you corner "enthusiastically". No lateral support so your back does it all.
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Is it just me that finds the mv6 base utterly dreadful then? The back is fine.
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I had MV6 cloth in my 'second' car, didn't get on with them at all :-\ struggled to get in and out of them, fine once in them though...
Suffice to say I refitted the original ones ::)
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Yep, standard Elite leather is pants, especially if you corner "enthusiastically". No lateral support so your back does it all.
I used to get backache in all of my previous elites . . . it was not until I got this latest MV6 that I noticed no more backache .
Should have sussed it about the MV6 seats being more snug around you before buying the elite leather seats :-[ :-[ :'( :'(
Kev's right . . standard Elite front seats are "pants " :( :(
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Is it just me that finds the mv6 base utterly dreadful then? The back is fine.
As said Mr. Gixer I don't really miss the bits that I have not got in the MV6 . . . .
Sound system is just about adequate but not up to the Bose standard of course
I have Air con, front heated seats , electric windows all round & have "cruise" fitted ready to go when access to a Tech 2 is found .
So whats missing . . . . no sun roof never used it anyway . . . ::)
No rear blind . . . can't think i ever used that on any of the previous elites :-\
No heated rear seats . . . I sit in the front so no problem there ;D ;D
And have a neatly fitted & wired to sound system Sat nav
so quite happy really :) :) :) :)
But sure you not the only one who "disses" MV6 base spec Chris :-\ :-\
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Yep, standard Elite leather is pants, especially if you corner "enthusiastically". No lateral support so your back does it all.
I used to get backache in all of my previous elites . . . it was not until I got this latest MV6 that I noticed no more backache .
Should have sussed it about the MV6 seats being more snug around you before buying the elite leather seats :-[ :-[ :'( :'(
Kev's right . . standard Elite front seats are "pants " :( :(
my mv6 cloth is great, no back ache like the elite leather. i wouldnt change the mv6 cloth ever for elite leather tbh.
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Yeah not loads of support from the leather in my Cdx but I do love having it. My gls seats were very supportive weirdly. Maybe due to the low miles.
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Is it just me that finds the mv6 base utterly dreadful then? The back is fine.
Yes ;D ;D