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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: Shackeng on 01 February 2014, 13:07:58
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Are OE springs avlbl for a reasonable price from VX? If so are they better than, say, KYB?
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I couldn't find any listed on TC when I looked last weekend. :(
BOGE were mentioned as a decent alternative so I went to the ZF online catalogue (http://webcat.zf.com/index.asp?SPR=4). Looked up the BOGE part number, called Jason at Allgermanparts (http://www.allgermanparts.co.uk/) and he had a pair delivered to me 2 days later for £39.70 each (+post & VAT came to £101.28))
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I guess they're fronts Andy, I need rears for my TD Estate. :y
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I bought rear springs for my 2003 Elite saloon with self levelling.
The ZF catalogue lists the following for a TD Estate
BOGE 25-964-0 Coil Spring - for vehicles without ride height control - Fitting Position : Rear Axle
BOGE 25-98F-0 Coil Spring -for vehicles without ride height control - Reinforced Version - Fitting Position : Rear Axle
BOGE 25-E49-0 Article to be discontinued - Coil Spring - Fitting Position : Rear Axle - for vehicles with height-adjustable suspension
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Thanks Andy, useful info. :y :y :y
Do you have a link? I can't find it on their UK site. :-\
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Thanks Andy, useful info. :y :y :y
Do you have a link? I can't find it on their UK site. :-\
I wasn't able to save a direct link. The nearest I could get is ZF Catalogue (http://webcat.zf.com/index.asp?SPR=4) then select Make, then model/body, then engine, then click on the picture of spring, then click show parts.
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:y :y :y
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Having used Boge and KYB, I'd go Boge every time... ...hence when I did the rear springs before xmas, Boge went on.
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Having used Boge and KYB, I'd go Boge every time... ...hence when I did the rear springs before xmas, Boge went on.
Presumably you use these because VX OE ones are unavailable/dearer/inferior (delete as appropriate)? :-\
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Last time I found a price for Genuine VX about 4 years ago **I think** they were £240 ish (my memory isn't what it was so don't shoot me if I'm wrong :( )
The quality wasn't / isn't in question - just the price.
This time I couldn't find them listed on the Tradeclub website and I didn't have time to contact/visit the dealer before making a decision so I went with the safe option.
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Having used Boge and KYB, I'd go Boge every time... ...hence when I did the rear springs before xmas, Boge went on.
Presumably you use these because VX OE ones are unavailable/dearer/inferior (delete as appropriate)? :-\
Price.
Boge and KYB are approx same price for rears, iro £40 each. In my own personal experience, the KYB ones rust like hell after a year of 2, the Boge ones seem to stay rust free. Hard to say, as other factors like shocks affect it, but I felt the KYBs seemed to feel softer after a few months.
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Thanks guys, I'll check the OE price, if avbl ten look for the BOGEs. :y
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Boge are he best
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There's a set of these, BOGE 25-E48-0, on Amazon for £32 each, but they appear to only fit saloons. ???
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Has anyone got the BOGE part number for Estate rear springs please?
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25-E49-0
Sachs are at least as good Chris
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Has anyone got the BOGE part number for Estate rear springs please?
I bought rear springs for my 2003 Elite saloon with self levelling.
The ZF catalogue lists the following for a TD Estate
BOGE 25-964-0 Coil Spring - for vehicles without ride height control - Fitting Position : Rear Axle
BOGE 25-98F-0 Coil Spring -for vehicles without ride height control - Reinforced Version - Fitting Position : Rear Axle
BOGE 25-E49-0 Article to be discontinued - Coil Spring - Fitting Position : Rear Axle - for vehicles with height-adjustable suspension
Do you have self levelling suspension?
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OOPS, thanks Andy, not self levelling. :y For some reason I couldn't get the ZF site to accept 'enter' inputs, either on IE or Waterfox. :(
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Here you go then Chris
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Boge-25-964-0-Coil-Spring/dp/B004CQO8M4
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Excellent, thanks very much. Interestingly, one of the sites I was searching referred to 'Sachs-BOGE' springs. ???
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The ZF catalogue lists parts branded as Sachs, Lemforder, BOGE and ZF. :y
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The ZF catalogue lists parts branded as Sachs, Lemforder, BOGE and ZF. :y
As they are all the same company - ZF
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The ZF catalogue lists parts branded as Sachs, Lemforder, BOGE and ZF. :y
As they are all the same company - ZF
Hence Allgeraman can get all those parts. :)
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ECP offer Sachs at £30 odd. Are these as good as Boge?
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Here you go then Chris
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Boge-25-964-0-Coil-Spring/dp/B004CQO8M4
These appear to be for the Omega A Rob. :(
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http://webcat.zf.com/nc2_dialog_teile.asp?MODE=&PICTO_SEL=%2CPictoFeder&GENARTNR_TYP=188&EINSPNR_TYP=32&EINSPNR_TYP=35&EINSPNR_TYP=14&EINSPNR_TYP=252&SUCHEN=show+parts&DBPAGESIZE=50&KHERNR=117&KMODNR=1931&KTYPNR=8124&FZART=1
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Snap, I just got to the same page. But another site lists the same number only for the Carlton. ???
Now I just need to track down a supplier. T
Thanks Rob. :y
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Snap, I just got to the same page. But another site lists the same number only for the Carlton. ???
Now I just need to track down a supplier. T
Thanks Rob. :y
Reply #18 ::)
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And or, try Jason for a price delivered.
Here
http://www.allgermanparts.co.uk/ourshop/cat_277900-Steering-and-suspension-components.html
Lemforder, Sachs, Boge. All the zf stuff
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ECP offer Sachs at £30 odd. Are these as good as Boge?
I asked them for a pain 2 weeks ago and they cant get them in ECP special order but not available.
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I've just had a very interesting chat with Matt at AllGerman. He tells me that much OE stuff is made by Suplex, and would recommend their springs. He rang ZF while I was on the phone, and said it appears that the Boge 25-964-0 are to be discontinued by ZF who have none in stock. He also recommended Kilen and Leisure Force (same company). A pair of Suplex rear springs for my Estate would be £134 delivered. However I have tracked down a pair of the Boge via Camberley AF for somewhat less off their trade card. I'll post the actual price when I get them. :y
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I have now removed my old springs, but the BOGE 25-964-0 listed by ZF as the correct ones for the TD Estate, are 25mm shorter than the originals. I am sure they will fit, but I have no wish to reduce my ride height. Useful comments welcomed. :-\ :-\ :-\
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I have now removed my old springs, but the BOGE 25-964-0 listed by ZF as the correct ones for the TD Estate, are 25mm shorter than the originals. I am sure they will fit, but I have no wish to reduce my ride height. Useful comments welcomed. :-\ :-\ :-\
unloaded length of springs do sometimes grow over time, as the spring loses its strength.
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I have now removed my old springs, but the BOGE 25-964-0 listed by ZF as the correct ones for the TD Estate, are 25mm shorter than the originals. I am sure they will fit, but I have no wish to reduce my ride height. Useful comments welcomed. :-\ :-\ :-\
Rrrrrravin iiiiit ;D
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Have you I.D'd the original springs? Are they rough road/heavy duty or whatever? Should be two letter ident printed in them. Someone with epc should be able to give the relevant description.
Mine came with a ride height a good 20mm higher that any other car at one of the oof meets a couple of years back. The springs where reluctant to come out due to the increased length. And where not standard.
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Just scraped the dirt off, and they are marked LO. :-\ Also having done some searching I have found a length for te correct springs as 275mm. These BOGE are 275mm, so I am now happy. :y :y :y