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Title: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Stemo on 03 February 2014, 12:50:31
Just got my dual fuel bill for the last quarter, £485! The majority, £350 is for gas.

I do like to be nice and warm whilst watching Bargain Hunt. ::)
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: chrisgixer on 03 February 2014, 12:53:54
Surely you can recycle and sell some gas back to them. ;D
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 February 2014, 15:46:03
The Opti family has to sit in the cold.

Times are hard south of Wakefield. :'( :'(

Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Stemo on 03 February 2014, 15:54:22
The Opti family has to sit in the cold.

Times are hard south of Wakefield. :'( :'(
Sit in your merc. Surely it has a tv in it?
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 February 2014, 16:06:51
The Opti family has to sit in the cold.

Times are hard south of Wakefield. :'( :'(
Sit in your merc. Surely it has a tv in it?

Nope.....just a paltry DVD player.

Which only works when the car is stationary. :)... As soon as I start to drive the picture goes.
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: TheBoy on 03 February 2014, 17:15:45
The Opti family has to sit in the cold.

Times are hard south of Wakefield. :'( :'(
Sit in your merc. Surely it has a tv in it?

Nope.....just a paltry DVD player.

Which only works when the car is stationary. :)... As soon as I start to drive the picture goes.
Can you afford to drive it :o
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 February 2014, 17:59:37
The Opti family has to sit in the cold.

Times are hard south of Wakefield. :'( :'(
Sit in your merc. Surely it has a tv in it?

Nope.....just a paltry DVD player.

Which only works when the car is stationary. :)... As soon as I start to drive the picture goes.
Can you afford to drive it :o

The trip computer is showing 20.6 MPG over the last 560 miles. So no, I can't afford to drive it. ;D

It is quick though..... :o :o ;)
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: TheBoy on 03 February 2014, 18:01:50
The Opti family has to sit in the cold.

Times are hard south of Wakefield. :'( :'(
Sit in your merc. Surely it has a tv in it?

Nope.....just a paltry DVD player.

Which only works when the car is stationary. :)... As soon as I start to drive the picture goes.
Can you afford to drive it :o

The trip computer is showing 20.6 MPG over the last 560 miles. So no, I can't afford to drive it. ;D

It is quick though..... :o :o ;)
Its even quicker if you boot it. 20mpg, simply not trying ;D
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Shackeng on 03 February 2014, 18:30:09
Just got my dual fuel bill for the last quarter, £485! The majority, £350 is for gas.

I do like to be nice and warm whilst watching Bargain Hunt. ::)

Bloody Hell! I'm paying £76 per month for gas and elec. for a 5 bed detached, and its toasty! :o :o :o
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 February 2014, 18:31:44
The Opti family has to sit in the cold.

Times are hard south of Wakefield. :'( :'(
Sit in your merc. Surely it has a tv in it?

Nope.....just a paltry DVD player.

Which only works when the car is stationary. :)... As soon as I start to drive the picture goes.
Can you afford to drive it :o

The trip computer is showing 20.6 MPG over the last 560 miles. So no, I can't afford to drive it. ;D

It is quick though..... :o :o ;)
Its even quicker if you boot it. 20mpg, simply not trying ;D


It pulls 36 MPH for each thousand revs in top (7th)........ So has the potential to be reasonably frugal.

I'm aware that many on here will disagree, but it feels a whole lot faster than any Omega I've driven, including my 3.2 plod estate that went like shit off a shovel. :y
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 03 February 2014, 18:43:18
Just got my dual fuel bill for the last quarter, £485! The majority, £350 is for gas.

I do like to be nice and warm whilst watching Bargain Hunt. ::)

Blimey......even i dont get a gas bill that big.....my old 30+ year boiler which is apparently only 60% efficient doesnt use that much gas...

Maybe you need a new boiler Steve  :-\.....im awaiting when the plumber can come and fit my new supposedly 97% efficient boiler  :y
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 03 February 2014, 18:58:03
Just got my dual fuel bill for the last quarter, £485! The majority, £350 is for gas.

I do like to be nice and warm whilst watching Bargain Hunt. ::)

 :o :o ???   with the current gbp rate 485 * 3.8 =1843 TL  opps.. my monthly is around  250 tl ;D

STMO you either move to a hotter climate or do some insulation :-\
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 03 February 2014, 19:13:53
No gas where we are but we pay £49 a month by direct debit for the electricity.

We also have to buy about 2000 litres of heating oil each year......roughly £1100. Additional to this we use some six or seven 47 KG propane bottles for the fire. These cost £52 each, this year. :'( :'(

So in the ballpark of £2200 each year.  :-\
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Stemo on 03 February 2014, 19:44:13
No gas where we are but we pay £49 a month by direct debit for the electricity.

We also have to buy about 2000 litres of heating oil each year......roughly £1100. Additional to this we use some six or seven 47 KG propane bottles for the fire. These cost £52 each, this year. :'( :'(

So in the ballpark of £2200 each year.  :-\
Although this quarters bill was very high, my annual bill is around £1300, still high, but near average I think.
I had wife and son off over Christmas, and they hammer everything.
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 February 2014, 13:49:00
Just got my dual fuel bill for the last quarter, £485! The majority, £350 is for gas.

I do like to be nice and warm whilst watching Bargain Hunt. ::)

Blimey......even i dont get a gas bill that big.....my old 30+ year boiler which is apparently only 60% efficient doesnt use that much gas...

Maybe you need a new boiler Steve  :-\.....im awaiting when the plumber can come and fit my new supposedly 97% efficient boiler  :y

He's too tight for that.

A new Daewoo AND a new boiler. ::) ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Stemo on 04 February 2014, 15:42:57
If I need a new boiler, I will get it for nowt.  :P
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 February 2014, 16:27:34
If I need a new boiler, I will get it for nowt.  :P

How?......not the 'sticky fingered' scouse way, I hope. ;)
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Stemo on 04 February 2014, 16:44:34
If I need a new boiler, I will get it for nowt.  :P

How?......not the 'sticky fingered' scouse way, I hope. ;)
;D ;D
My landlord wanted to install a brand new boiler last year, but I couldn't be arsed with the hassle. ::)
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 04 February 2014, 17:25:17
If I need a new boiler, I will get it for nowt.  :P

How?......not the 'sticky fingered' scouse way, I hope. ;)
;D ;D
My landlord wanted to install a brand new boiler last year, but I couldn't be arsed with the hassle. ::)

I must have misunderstood. ;D

I thought you were going to 'borrow' your neighbour's brand new boiler while he was away on holiday. ::) ::) ::) :)
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 February 2014, 17:57:25

im awaiting when the plumber can come and fit my new supposedly 97% efficient boiler  :y

Don't get a Ferroli TD, the damn things are cheap for a reason!  :(

I have an 8 year old Ferroli condensing boiler which has had loads go wrong with it and I've been fitting some new o rings in it today to fix some water leaks, only to discover that the main heat exchanger has a leak as well.  :'(

A new heat exchanger retails at around £350 :o  so I'm hoping my friendly plumber can fix it!!  ::)
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 04 February 2014, 18:08:55

im awaiting when the plumber can come and fit my new supposedly 97% efficient boiler  :y

Don't get a Ferroli TD, the damn things are cheap for a reason!  :(

I have an 8 year old Ferroli condensing boiler which has had loads go wrong with it and I've been fitting some new o rings in it today to fix some water leaks, only to discover that the main heat exchanger has a leak as well.  :'(

A new heat exchanger retails at around £350 :o  so I'm hoping my friendly plumber can fix it!!  ::)

Shove some rad weld in it  ;D

No, not getting one of those....

It will probably be this one...

Viessman Vitodens 100-W Open vent boiler 19kw .... not that cheap at about £800

http://www.viessmann.co.uk/en/flats_apartments/Product/Gas_condensing_boilers/vitodens_100-w_compact.html

Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 February 2014, 18:20:06
Shove some rad weld in it  ;D

Ha yes, like I was thinking about doing with my heater matrix recently!  ;D
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: 2woody on 04 February 2014, 21:16:51
my all-time record.....

filled up with 1200 litres of diesel at 08.30 ( on the company credit card )

back again for more at 15.30 !
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 04 February 2014, 22:06:30
my all-time record.....

filled up with 1200 litres of diesel at 08.30 ( on the company credit card )

back again for more at 15.30 !

Hope you got the nectar points!  ;)
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Vamps on 04 February 2014, 22:36:29
No gas where we are but we pay £49 a month by direct debit for the electricity.

We also have to buy about 2000 litres of heating oil each year......roughly £1100. Additional to this we use some six or seven 47 KG propane bottles for the fire. These cost £52 each, this year. :'( :'(

So in the ballpark of £2200 each year.  :-\

Just asked swmbo and we cannot be certain but I think we were only paying £47 a bottle for our caravan (Static) last year........ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 February 2014, 22:40:14
No gas where we are but we pay £49 a month by direct debit for the electricity.

We also have to buy about 2000 litres of heating oil each year......roughly £1100. Additional to this we use some six or seven 47 KG propane bottles for the fire. These cost £52 each, this year. :'( :'(

So in the ballpark of £2200 each year.  :-\

Just asked swmbo and we cannot be certain but I think we were only paying £47 a bottle for our caravan (Static) last year........ :-\ :-\

Hmm. Worth decanting them into the Omega at that price. :-X
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Vamps on 04 February 2014, 22:46:27
No gas where we are but we pay £49 a month by direct debit for the electricity.

We also have to buy about 2000 litres of heating oil each year......roughly £1100. Additional to this we use some six or seven 47 KG propane bottles for the fire. These cost £52 each, this year. :'( :'(

So in the ballpark of £2200 each year.  :-\

Just asked swmbo and we cannot be certain but I think we were only paying £47 a bottle for our caravan (Static) last year........ :-\ :-\

Hmm. Worth decanting them into the Omega at that price. :-X

Does that work out cheaper that Auto LPG then? I remember driving fork lifts with a gas bottle fueling them, so presumably you could use a propane cylinder or even butane...... :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Entwood on 04 February 2014, 22:50:22
No gas where we are but we pay £49 a month by direct debit for the electricity.

We also have to buy about 2000 litres of heating oil each year......roughly £1100. Additional to this we use some six or seven 47 KG propane bottles for the fire. These cost £52 each, this year. :'( :'(

So in the ballpark of £2200 each year.  :-\

Just asked swmbo and we cannot be certain but I think we were only paying £47 a bottle for our caravan (Static) last year........ :-\ :-\

Hmm. Worth decanting them into the Omega at that price. :-X

but don't get caught doing it ... Propane in bottles does not have the "Road Duty of 31p/kg" on it  ... so is technically illegal to use in a car .. though just how they would prove it is beyond me ..... a tad tricky to put a red dye in it methinks !!!  :)

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/budget2013/tiin-2522.pdf
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Kevin Wood on 04 February 2014, 22:55:40
Yes, indeed. Was just an idle thought. :y

Not sure it'd be worth the hassle/risk, and I think it would be a tad suspicious for a house with mains gas to be getting through one of those a week. ;)
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Entwood on 04 February 2014, 22:57:06
No gas where we are but we pay £49 a month by direct debit for the electricity.

We also have to buy about 2000 litres of heating oil each year......roughly £1100. Additional to this we use some six or seven 47 KG propane bottles for the fire. These cost £52 each, this year. :'( :'(

So in the ballpark of £2200 each year.  :-\

Just asked swmbo and we cannot be certain but I think we were only paying £47 a bottle for our caravan (Static) last year........ :-\ :-\

Hmm. Worth decanting them into the Omega at that price. :-X

Does that work out cheaper that Auto LPG then? I remember driving fork lifts with a gas bottle fueling them, so presumably you could use a propane cylinder or even butane...... :-\ :-\

Fork lift gas bottles are totally different to "normal" ones, as they have a liquid gas takeoff, normal bottles have a gaseous take off ...  :)

Small bottles are horrendously expensive, ok a 47 Kg for £60 is 64 p/litre .. I pay 72p/litre autogas ..  but a 13 kg is £27 ..  £1.04 a litre !!!! and the 6Kg ones are a rip-off .. £21  is £1.75 a litre !!!

So unless you can pick up 47 kg and dump it in the boot .....     :)
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Vamps on 04 February 2014, 23:39:46
Yes, indeed. Was just an idle thought. :y

Not sure it'd be worth the hassle/risk, and I think it would be a tad suspicious for a house with mains gas to be getting through one of those a week. ;)

Get a caravan............. ;) ;) :D
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: 05omegav6 on 04 February 2014, 23:45:57
Kevin runs off to find a tow bar for the Westfield ;D
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 February 2014, 00:35:03
I've often wondered about houses that have lpg gas heating with the big green lpg tank out the back, and the feasibility of 'T-ing off' that tank to an lpg pump for the car.  :-\
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Vamps on 05 February 2014, 00:38:47
I've often wondered about houses that have lpg gas heating with the big green lpg tank out the back, and the feasibility of 'T-ing off' that tank to an lpg pump for the car.  :-\

It's quite easy, apparently....... :y :-X :-X
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 05 February 2014, 00:40:49
I've often wondered about houses that have lpg gas heating with the big green lpg tank out the back, and the feasibility of 'T-ing off' that tank to an lpg pump for the car.  :-\

It's quite easy, apparently....... :y :-X :-X

Yes, what could possibly go wrong!!  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Vamps on 05 February 2014, 00:48:53
I've often wondered about houses that have lpg gas heating with the big green lpg tank out the back, and the feasibility of 'T-ing off' that tank to an lpg pump for the car.  :-\

It's quite easy, apparently....... :y :-X :-X

Yes, what could possibly go wrong!!  ::)  ;D

Not much realy, as long as you are careful.... ;) ;) is it, in really, any different to me conneting a gas bbq to the caravan (Static) system....... :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Jeez! Fuel bill
Post by: Kevin Wood on 05 February 2014, 09:39:21
I've often wondered about houses that have lpg gas heating with the big green lpg tank out the back, and the feasibility of 'T-ing off' that tank to an lpg pump for the car.  :-\

It's quite easy, apparently....... :y :-X :-X

Yes, what could possibly go wrong!!  ::)  ;D

Not much realy, as long as you are careful.... ;) ;) is it, in really, any different to me conneting a gas bbq to the caravan (Static) system....... :-\ :-\

Problem is, you need to take off liquid at high pressure and pump it into the car, rather than vapour at low pressure, so it needs to be from a different point on the tank. I'd say it'd be a challenge to do it without anyone noticing when it's time to fill the tank.

You can also add a fill point legitimately, but then it has to be god knows how many metres from the nearest building and you have to make a declaration and pay road fuel duty on whatever has gone in the car, at which point it becomes about the same price as at the garage (if not a lot more).