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Title: New car prices..
Post by: aaronjb on 12 July 2014, 20:03:40
Stopped by the Nissan dealer today to look at the new Micras with a view to replacing Amy's 51 plate Micra - the new one is certainly much nicer than the old one and bigger inside..

Anyway we looked around everything else too, as you do.. the X-trail was quite nice, I thought, so now I'm home I'm looking at prices..

Nissan have a "special offer" on the top spec Diesel X-trail at the moment: £349/mo, £7500 deposit

Yet a basic spec Mercedes E220 Estate is only £359 with £5200 deposit? Makes the Nissan seem expensive ... though I suppose apples to apples would be £249 vs £359.

Choices choices..

The Nissan only has a 1.5L diseasel, mind  :o
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Kevin Wood on 12 July 2014, 20:19:05
The Nissan only has a 1.5L diseasel, mind  :o

Someone needs to wash his mouth out. ::)

Then again, they seem to be employed mostly as mobile traffic calming objects by the local geriatrics. As such, they are probably quite overpowered. ;D
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: aaronjb on 12 July 2014, 20:21:10
 ;D They're very roomy inside, and feel a lot better screwed together than Nissans of old..

The 360º "overhead" camera view they have on that (and other models) is very clever too - four cameras on the roofline and you get a projected fake overhead view on the onboard screen as you park.  The gadget lover in me loves that ;)


I must admit I also quite liked the Juke  :-[
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: chrisgixer on 12 July 2014, 20:28:08
Surely there's better choice than a micra. Pleeeese tell me there is. :(
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: aaronjb on 12 July 2014, 20:57:13
In that sort of price range they're all much of a muchness I should think..

Micra, Fiesta, Corsa, Adam, Punto etc
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 12 July 2014, 21:03:23
Stopped by the Nissan dealer today to look at the new Micras with a view to replacing Amy's 51 plate Micra - the new one is certainly much nicer than the old one and bigger inside..

Anyway we looked around everything else too, as you do.. the X-trail was quite nice, I thought, so now I'm home I'm looking at prices..

Nissan have a "special offer" on the top spec Diesel X-trail at the moment: £349/mo, £7500 deposit

Yet a basic spec Mercedes E220 Estate is only £359 with £5200 deposit? Makes the Nissan seem expensive ... though I suppose apples to apples would be £249 vs £359.

Choices choices..

The Nissan only has a 1.5L diseasel, mind  :o


Whichever way you cut it that is a lot of dosh for a Datsun. :-\

There is so much choice on the s/h market for that amount of money.
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 12 July 2014, 21:04:23
In that sort of price range they're all much of a muchness I should think..

Micra, Fiesta, Corsa, Adam, Punto etc

What a dreary assortment...... ::) ::) ;) ;D
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 12 July 2014, 21:30:41
Stopped by the Nissan dealer today to look at the new Micras with a view to replacing Amy's 51 plate Micra - the new one is certainly much nicer than the old one and bigger inside..

Anyway we looked around everything else too, as you do.. the X-trail was quite nice, I thought, so now I'm home I'm looking at prices..

Nissan have a "special offer" on the top spec Diesel X-trail at the moment: £349/mo, £7500 deposit

Yet a basic spec Mercedes E220 Estate is only £359 with £5200 deposit? Makes the Nissan seem expensive ... though I suppose apples to apples would be £249 vs £359.

Choices choices..

The Nissan only has a 1.5L diseasel, mind  :o

Could Amy be tempted by pre-owned Nissan GTR instead?...... :)
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: aaronjb on 12 July 2014, 21:33:54
If we sold the house we could probably afford to insure it, too... ;D
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 July 2014, 21:49:35
In that sort of price range they're all much of a muchness I should think..

Micra, Fiesta, Corsa, Adam, Punto etc

What a dreary assortment...... ::) ::) ;) ;D

If I was looking at a new small car, I have a good look at the Hyundai i10 or the Kia Picanto.  Cheap but with big warrenties.  ;)  :y
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 12 July 2014, 22:04:08
If we sold the house we could probably afford to insure it, too... ;D

I reckon  I could insure a Datsun GTR for less than £400 P.A.

The CLS 500 cost me less than £200 P.A......only about £70 more than my Omega. :y
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 12 July 2014, 22:06:51
In that sort of price range they're all much of a muchness I should think..

Micra, Fiesta, Corsa, Adam, Punto etc

What a dreary assortment...... ::) ::) ;) ;D

If I was looking at a new small car, I have a good look at the Hyundai i10 or the Kia Picanto.  Cheap but with big warrenties.  ;)  :y

I would tend to agree with that, Sir Tig. Buy one of the above when it's 12-18 months old and you'll probably save about 50% on list price.  :y
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: aaronjb on 12 July 2014, 22:38:05
If we sold the house we could probably afford to insure it, too... ;D

I reckon  I could insure a Datsun GTR for less than £400 P.A.

The CLS 500 cost me less than £200 P.A......only about £70 more than my Omega. :y

Amy's Micra costs her more than £200 to insure.. ;D

Secondhand cars come with a lot more risks than new, although if you're talking 12 months old those risks are minimal I suppose :y
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 12 July 2014, 22:45:00
If we sold the house we could probably afford to insure it, too... ;D

I reckon  I could insure a Datsun GTR for less than £400 P.A.

The CLS 500 cost me less than £200 P.A......only about £70 more than my Omega. :y

Amy's Micra costs her more than £200 to insure.. ;D

Secondhand cars come with a lot more risks than new, although if you're talking 12 months old those risks are minimal I suppose :y

Most cars these days are relatively 'risk free' for the first five or six years.

Personally, I think that too much money is lost the moment a new car leaves the showroom. You would need to figure this into the equation. :y
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 July 2014, 23:36:34
Secondhand cars come with a lot more risks than new, although if you're talking 12 months old those risks are minimal I suppose :y

A 2 year old Kia Picanto will have 5 years of manufacturers warranty left!  :y

Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Vamps on 12 July 2014, 23:49:30
If we sold the house we could probably afford to insure it, too... ;D

I reckon  I could insure a Datsun GTR for less than £400 P.A.

The CLS 500 cost me less than £200 P.A......only about £70 more than my Omega. :y

Amy's Micra costs her more than £200 to insure.. ;D

Secondhand cars come with a lot more risks than new, although if you're talking 12 months old those risks are minimal I suppose :y

Most cars these days are relatively 'risk free' for the first five or six years.

Personally, I think that too much money is lost the moment a new car leaves the showroom. You would need to figure this into the equation. :y

I quite agree................ :y

Tbh with the money needed for a deposit, £7500 you should be able to buy something quite  recent and suitable............. :y :y
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: 05omegav6 on 13 July 2014, 01:47:06
Indeed £750 would see you in an eleven year old Omega Estate, with proper gearbox  ::)
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Vamps on 13 July 2014, 01:54:35
Indeed £750 would see you in an eleven year old Omega Estate, with proper gearbox  ::)

I would have thought that a good Auto would have cost a little more.......... :y :y
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 July 2014, 14:23:26
£7500 opens the buyer up to some pretty tasty machinery.

A  Datsun Micra would not be in my top 100.....  :-X

Aaron.......buy the girl an early TVR Griffith 500 and be done with it. :y :y :y


Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: TheBoy on 13 July 2014, 17:23:19
Things like the i10, despite being dull, boring, uninspiring and slow, are probably a decent option.

Due to the offers, esp if you need finance to buy, often new from the showroom ends up cheaper than a nearly new car.
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: aaronjb on 13 July 2014, 18:03:36
Aaron.......buy the girl an early TVR Griffith 500 and be done with it. :y :y :y

Any TVR we have would definitely be mine..  :P ;D

Remember (well, actually most of you probably don't know ;D) she's only 22 (yes, I'm a cradle snatcher) so insurance is a bit of a problem; for instance adding her to my Omega policy would have bumped it from £350 to £700..

I'm not sure we'll end up getting a Micra for her though - as she said, if she's having to pay out every month on a car, she'd rather get something she really wants than something that is "just a car", and we don't have to get a practical car for her (since I have the barge) .. so perhaps an older MX5 or similar instead.

No doubt we'll still be deciding in six months time ;) ;D


And to Jaime's point - yep we'd likely finance a new car, and some of the deals can be quite attractive.  Plus, I do think, the new Micra isn't a bad car.  It's not going to set the world on fire but it's reasonable comfortable, reliable (one would hope!) and seems well screwed together..
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 July 2014, 18:39:14
The MX5 is deffo a girlie/gay mans car.... ::) ::) :y
I was going to suggest a Honda S2000......being only 2 litres it shouldn't be too expensive to insure. :y

P.S......and yes you are a 'cradle snatcher'  you lucky devil. :y :y ;D ;D
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 July 2014, 18:49:27
Aaron.......buy the girl an early TVR Griffith 500 and be done with it. :y :y :y

Any TVR we have would definitely be mine..  :P ;D

Remember (well, actually most of you probably don't know ;D) she's only 22 (yes, I'm a cradle snatcher) so insurance is a bit of a problem; for instance adding her to my Omega policy would have bumped it from £350 to £700..

I'm not sure we'll end up getting a Micra for her though - as she said, if she's having to pay out every month on a car, she'd rather get something she really wants than something that is "just a car", and we don't have to get a practical car for her (since I have the barge) .. so perhaps an older MX5 or similar instead.

No doubt we'll still be deciding in six months time ;) ;D


And to Jaime's point - yep we'd likely finance a new car, and some of the deals can be quite attractive.  Plus, I do think, the new Micra isn't a bad car.  It's not going to set the world on fire but it's reasonable comfortable, reliable (one would hope!) and seems well screwed together..


.....and terminally dull. ::) ::) ;D

Fine if you're an old lady and just want a car that starts every morning and gets you from A to B.

In summary. The Nissan Micra is the perfect car for people who have no interest in cars. :-X ;)
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: aaronjb on 13 July 2014, 18:59:14
The MX5 is deffo a girlie/gay mans car.... ::) ::) :y
I was going to suggest a Honda S2000......being only 2 litres it shouldn't be too expensive to insure. :y

P.S......and yes you are a 'cradle snatcher'  you lucky devil. :y :y ;D ;D

The S2000 is group 44, same as the M3 (Omega is group 32) - so methinks it would be a bit pricey for her to insure! Sadly it might just have to be an MX5 ;) (group 21-27)
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 13 July 2014, 19:11:04
The MX5 is deffo a girlie/gay mans car.... ::) ::) :y
I was going to suggest a Honda S2000......being only 2 litres it shouldn't be too expensive to insure. :y

P.S......and yes you are a 'cradle snatcher'  you lucky devil. :y :y ;D ;D

The S2000 is group 44, same as the M3 (Omega is group 32) - so methinks it would be a bit pricey for her to insure! Sadly it might just have to be an MX5 ;) (group 21-27)

Shit. I would have thought that a humble  2 litre Honda would be relatively inexpensive to insure. :-\ :'(
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Kevin Wood on 13 July 2014, 23:18:08
Aaron.......buy the girl an early TVR Griffith 500 and be done with it. :y :y :y

That's a bloody stupid idea.  ::)

What's wrong with a Cerbera, exactly? :-*
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Vamps on 14 July 2014, 00:54:38
Aaron.......buy the girl an early TVR Griffith 500 and be done with it. :y :y :y

That's a bloody stupid idea.  ::)

What's wrong with a Cerbera, exactly? :-*

He is getting that for the better looking sister....... :D :D :-X
Title: Re: New car prices..
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 14 July 2014, 08:19:52
Stopped by the Nissan dealer today to look at the new Micras with a view to replacing Amy's 51 plate Micra - the new one is certainly much nicer than the old one and bigger inside..

Anyway we looked around everything else too, as you do.. the X-trail was quite nice, I thought, so now I'm home I'm looking at prices..

Nissan have a "special offer" on the top spec Diesel X-trail at the moment: £349/mo, £7500 deposit

Yet a basic spec Mercedes E220 Estate is only £359 with £5200 deposit? Makes the Nissan seem expensive ... though I suppose apples to apples would be £249 vs £359.

Choices choices..

The Nissan only has a 1.5L diseasel, mind  :o

Yes and its the troublesome French engine in them

Plus of course, if doing mainly short journeys.....DPF issues.