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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: vauxsull on 07 September 2014, 08:27:54
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Is there a time limit in which to expect the paperwork to come to my house for a speeding offence? Its been 17 days since I committed the crime of the century and still waiting for the postman? :'(
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Quite a bit on the net about Speeding and Notice of Intended prosecution!
http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/does-nip-have-be-served-within-14-days.html (http://www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/does-nip-have-be-served-within-14-days.html)
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Hmmm I seeee... Still time for the postman to bring me bad news then. :-\
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I'm in the same boat. Got flashed on the M25 on Thursday, expecting a letter in the post at some stage :(
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Its £100 fine now too...
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Its £100 fine now too...
It's the points that really bother me, and I've already done a speed awareness course so they won't let me do another one for a while.
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Is there a time limit in which to expect the paperwork to come to my house for a speeding offence? Its been 17 days since I committed the crime of the century and still waiting for the postman? :'(
I've recently challenged the 14 day notice and it does stand, providing the car details and your address are correct, and have been for a while. Basically, they will send it to the registered keeper, so they have no obligation to chase you through recently changed address/V5 details etc. If you have been the registered keeper for a while and haven't moved recently you could be alright, as my letter states that the 14 days is a rule not a guideline.
Incidentally I failed, even though mine arrived 26 days after the offence, because the car was purchased through a car scheme, so the NIP went to them first. ::) :'(
Assuming yours does arrive, and you meet the criteria above, you'd have a definite case. I was kindly pointed in the right direction by fellow OOFer LC0112G. :y
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Assuming I don't get off on a technicality (not getting paperwork within legal time frame) these will be the first points ive ever had... Would pay £200 fine just to keep licence clean
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I had my licence in me at the time I was stopped and all details was confirmed there amd then so no chasing up info on me.
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If it hasn't arrived by now and if you havn't moved or changed car recently then I'd say your OK. But...... :-\
Incidentally, talking about the M25, has anyone ever had a ticket from one of those overhead gantry cameras through the variable speed limit sections. ??? Nobody ever seems to take any notice of them, but I did zip under one whilst 'pressing on' a bit the other day. ::)
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If it hasn't arrived by now and if you havn't moved or changed car recently then I'd say your OK. But...... :-\
Incidentally, talking about the M25, has anyone ever had a ticket from one of those overhead gantry cameras through the variable speed limit sections. ??? Nobody ever seems to take any notice of them, but I did zip under one whilst 'pressing on' a bit the other day. ::)
I find it frustrating when I have been careful to go under a gantry at the posted speed and cars have gone whizzing passed me because they know that it is one of the gantries that doesn't have cameras on >:(
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I had my licence in me at the time I was stopped and all details was confirmed there amd then so no chasing up info on me.
Don't they issue a speeding ticket on the spot if they stop you in person? Unless you ask for court proceedings.... Or has that changed now? :-\
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I had my licence in me at the time I was stopped and all details was confirmed there amd then so no chasing up info on me.
Ah, that changes things as you have already been notified in that case, so the usual 14 days may not apply. :-\
I had my licence in me at the time I was stopped and all details was confirmed there amd then so no chasing up info on me.
Don't they issue a speeding ticket on the spot if they stop you in person? Unless you ask for court proceedings.... Or has that changed now? :-\
My thoughts exactly, so my previous post does not apply. :-\
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If it hasn't arrived by now and if you havn't moved or changed car recently then I'd say your OK. But...... :-\
Incidentally, talking about the M25, has anyone ever had a ticket from one of those overhead gantry cameras through the variable speed limit sections. ??? Nobody ever seems to take any notice of them, but I did zip under one whilst 'pressing on' a bit the other day. ::)
I find it frustrating when I have been careful to go under a gantry at the posted speed and cars have gone whizzing passed me because they know that it is one of the gantries that doesn't have cameras on >:(
It's probably more that they can see there's no white lines at the side of the lanes. Therefor, you can know as well. ;)
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The ticket I got on the roadside says I don't need to do anything but wait for further correspondence
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The ticket I got on the roadside
The ticket you got at the roadside is a TOR or 'Traffic Offence Report'. These are fairly new but we've been using them for ages, basically they are completely different from the old '£60 & 3 pointer' ticket.
Dunno about other forces but if you get one of these the 'cop' will give you the ticket & a verbal NIP at the roadside, you keep the carbon copy & on the back it says sommat like 'do nothing and wait 21 days' that is for some desk jobby to process the ticket at CTO. They'll look at the offence, and depending on a few parameters you 'MAY' be legible for a SAC or not. They will write to you & let you know.
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I seeee.. Bummer... The ticket says to do nothing but doesn't tell me how long to expect further correspondence :'(
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Move house every 30 days. Lol
Just make sure you change all your details. NOT post to send behind.
After 7 month they missed there time.
Not saving money but points. Lol
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I'm in the same boat. Got flashed on the M25 on Thursday, expecting a letter in the post at some stage :(
You would be really unlucky to get one.....many of those cameras dont work or for other reasons dont issue tickets.
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Surely the average speed cameras do just that, measure the average speed from one camera to the other. :-\
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Average speed cameras or SPECS cameras do measure the average speed from one point to another, usually in a contraflow situation through roadworks. The M60 though, has them from Jct 25 clockwise permanently and are set at 50mph. They generated the 4th largest amount of fines per year, a couple of years back. about £350k! :o :o :o
They also had em on the M62 near to Chadderton Jct19 I think during roadworks, I'd guess they probably paid for the roadworks too, the amount of fines they generated!
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I'm in the same boat. Got flashed on the M25 on Thursday, expecting a letter in the post at some stage :(
You would be really unlucky to get one.....many of those cameras dont work or for other reasons dont issue tickets.
The ones around the Heathrow Area have allegedly not worked or been touch and go for quite some time now, they have, though, recently installed a load of new ones around the M25 which sit half way up the Gantry and stick out o/s quiet a way of the road, there long range with extra bright flash, these work!
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I'm in the same boat. Got flashed on the M25 on Thursday, expecting a letter in the post at some stage :(
You would be really unlucky to get one.....many of those cameras dont work or for other reasons dont issue tickets.
I hope you're right. However this wasn't one of the cameras on a gantry, it was a new one by the side of the motorway at the end of a joining sliproad. Anyway, fingers (and everything else) crossed :-\
I would errrrrr point out that I did "floor it" as there was a fast moving convoy of trucks looming on both inside lanes. The MV6 can really move when it wants to ::)
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I'm in the same boat. Got flashed on the M25 on Thursday, expecting a letter in the post at some stage :(
You would be really unlucky to get one.....many of those cameras dont work or for other reasons dont issue tickets.
I hope you're right. However this wasn't one of the cameras on a gantry, it was a new one by the side of the motorway at the end of a joining sliproad. Anyway, fingers (and everything else) crossed :-\
I would errrrrr point out that I did "floor it" as there was a fast moving convoy of trucks looming on both inside lanes. The MV6 can really move when it wants to ::)
In that case it maybe working :(
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Its £100 fine now too...
It's the points that really bother me, and I've already done a speed awareness course so they won't let me do another one for a while.
What is the point of doing another speed awareness course if the first one did nothing to change your tendency to speed? It is very similar to a suspended sentence. You cannot get a second suspended sentence if you re-offend during the period.
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Its £100 fine now too...
It's the points that really bother me, and I've already done a speed awareness course so they won't let me do another one for a while.
What is the point of doing another speed awareness course if the first one did nothing to change your tendency to speed? It is very similar to a suspended sentence. You cannot get a second suspended sentence if you re-offend during the period.
It takes total concentration not to speed these days. Can't possibly be safety related as I spend more time looking at the speedo lately than the road, so how does that improve road safety?
Giving 100% concentration reading the road ahead is surely safer. :-\
I have a variable limiter fitted to my car and I'm constantly flicking from 60mph down to 30mph and so on, it's a full time job whilst driving now. Gives the left hand thumb a right workout. ;D
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Its £100 fine now too...
It's the points that really bother me, and I've already done a speed awareness course so they won't let me do another one for a while.
What is the point of doing another speed awareness course if the first one did nothing to change your tendency to speed? It is very similar to a suspended sentence. You cannot get a second suspended sentence if you re-offend during the period.
That, in a much more charming manor, is exactly what you quoted.
What is the point in re stating the same thing....etc etc . I know you work in an NHS environment but jeez.... Chilllllllll Winstaaaaarn.
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Average speed cameras or SPECS cameras do measure the average speed from one point to another, usually in a contraflow situation through roadworks. The M60 though, has them from Jct 25 clockwise permanently and are set at 50mph. They generated the 4th largest amount of fines per year, a couple of years back. about £350k! :o :o :o
They also had em on the M62 near to Chadderton Jct19 I think during roadworks, I'd guess they probably paid for the roadworks too, the amount of fines they generated!
There is a stretch on the A14 around Cambridge and on toward Huntington that has ,em.
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Ps. go for my speed awareness course on Friday :(
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I'm in the same boat. Got flashed on the M25 on Thursday, expecting a letter in the post at some stage :(
You would be really unlucky to get one.....many of those cameras dont work or for other reasons dont issue tickets.
I hope you're right. However this wasn't one of the cameras on a gantry, it was a new one by the side of the motorway at the end of a joining sliproad. Anyway, fingers (and everything else) crossed :-\
I would errrrrr point out that I did "floor it" as there was a fast moving convoy of trucks looming on both inside lanes. The MV6 can really move when it wants to ::)
Sorry, but that's tosh, and no defence...They're limited, and unless they are in heavy traffic they will be doing no more than 57/8 as a rule. On level ground they certainly won't be going any faster
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I'm in the same boat. Got flashed on the M25 on Thursday, expecting a letter in the post at some stage :(
You would be really unlucky to get one.....many of those cameras dont work or for other reasons dont issue tickets.
I hope you're right. However this wasn't one of the cameras on a gantry, it was a new one by the side of the motorway at the end of a joining sliproad. Anyway, fingers (and everything else) crossed :-\
I would errrrrr point out that I did "floor it" as there was a fast moving convoy of trucks looming on both inside lanes. The MV6 can really move when it wants to ::)
Sorry, but that's tosh, and no defence...They're limited, and unless they are in heavy traffic they will be doing no more than 57/8 as a rule. On level ground they certainly won't be going any faster
Now, I know that, it's why I have to accelerate to an excess of 70 MPH to pass many a truck, mostly tippers, on my morning commute, flatish road, A689 Between Sedgefield and the A19, that I don't understand............ ;) ::) ::)
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You need to be doing a minimum of 10% more than the vehicle you're overtaking in order to pass it cleanly.
Say said tipper is actually doing 58mph, to pass it safely you need to be travelling 6mph (58 x 10%=5.8) faster, so an actual speed of 64mph, indicating as 68/9 mph on your speedo. You'll be going faster in order to be satisfied that you're carrying out the manoeuvre in a way that is sufficiently swift for your piece of mind, so might subconsciously aim for twenty percent, or 12mph, giving 70 mph actual or 75/6 indicated :y
Ergo, the truck isn't actually speeding, it is simply covering ground more quickly than you perceive it should be...
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You need to be doing a minimum of 10% more than the vehicle you're overtaking in order to pass it cleanly.
Say said tipper is actually doing 58mph, to pass it safely you need to be travelling 6mph (58 x 10%=5.8) faster, so an actual speed of 64mph, indicating as 68/9 mph on your speedo. You'll be going faster in order to be satisfied that you're carrying out the manoeuvre in a way that is sufficiently swift for your piece of mind, so might subconsciously aim for twenty percent, or 12mph, giving 70 mph actual or 75/6 indicated :y
Ergo, the truck isn't actually speeding, it is simply covering ground more quickly than you perceive it should be...
Very technical so I am not going to argue with that.......... :y :y
I also remember, in the old days where a tweek of the fuel pump, or a screw in of a throttle stop enabled increased Speed, all before the 56mph limit, pre taco as well. goad I am feeling old........... :D :D
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Its £100 fine now too...
It's the points that really bother me, and I've already done a speed awareness course so they won't let me do another one for a while.
What is the point of doing another speed awareness course if the first one did nothing to change your tendency to speed? It is very similar to a suspended sentence. You cannot get a second suspended sentence if you re-offend during the period.
That, in a much more charming manor, is exactly what you quoted.
What is the point in re stating the same thing....etc etc . I know you work in an NHS environment but jeez.... Chilllllllll Winstaaaaarn.
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Is there a time limit in which to expect the paperwork to come to my house for a speeding offence? Its been 17 days since I committed the crime of the century and still waiting for the postman? :'(
The 14 day ruling only applies to times you aren't stopped at the scene of the crime - such as a speed camera offence. Since you were stopped at the time, and the identity of the driver was established at the scene (you showed your license) then the time limit that applies is 6 months. It's not a guideline, or a rule - it's the LAW . Section 127 of The Magistrates Act 1980 : http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1980/43/section/127
The usual progress (provided your speed wasn't stupid) is for you to be sent a "Conditional offer of a fixed penalty" - aka CoFP. This gives you the option of pleading guilty to the offence at the earliest opportunity, and accepting the 3 points and £100 fine. You have 28 days to accept that offer. You can either accept this, decline and fight, or ignore (which will be treated as decline and fight eventually). If you ignore, you may get a reminder - but don't rely on it - they don't have to issue reminders.
Once you've ignored/declined the CoFP, the CPS have to 'ley the information' before the courts within 6 months from the date of the offence. The courts will then issue a summons which will be sent to your last known address. Thus may take a few days/weeks to process after the information is "leyed", so you aren't really safe for about 7 months.
If the CoFP arrives after month 5, then you can wait the 28 days, and by the time the CPS realise you're ignoring them, they will be outside the 6 months limit to ley the information and go through the courts.
If I were you, I'd just sit tight, and wait to see what the postie brings.
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When the paperwork comes through I shall just plead guilty your honour and pay the £100 and sob like a big girls blouse my clean licence is no longer clean.. :(
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clean licence
Ah, if you've got a current clean one, if you were within the 'threshold' you may qualify for a SAC.
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Been clean since 1988..... :)
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clean licence
Ah, if you've got a current clean one, if you were within the 'threshold' you may qualify for a SAC.
Obviously going quickly enough to attract attention though... ::)
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I blame the mother-in-law.. :-\
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I wouldn't worry too much about your misdemeanour. Now me....I might be in real trouble.... :o
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What you done now STMO???? :o :o :o ::) ::) ::)
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Sounds like your saying a ban is in order then?? :-\
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Sounds like your saying a ban is in order then??
Depends on what speed you were doing & what the limit was ???
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Sounds like your saying a ban is in order then??
Depends on what speed you were doing & what the limit was ???
For me, not him!
Gawd...these coppers are dense... ;D
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Stmo got confuddled and bought a brand new Dacia rather than the shopping, and his Mrs has just found out that the fridge is empty ;D
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Gawd...these coppers are dense... ;D
FY12BPE
But got a good memory ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;)
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Gawd...these coppers are wonderful.. ;D
FY12BPE
But got a good memory ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;)
Wassup with you, mate? :-*
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i got flashed about 10 yrs ago for doing 30 mph in a 40 limit it took 6 monthe to sort out and i had to go to court to finaly to get it cleard i wasnt the only one there were 100 of us that morning before the turned it off bloody stupid
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i got flashed about 10 yrs ago for doing 30 mph in a 40 limit it took 6 monthe to sort out and i had to go to court to finaly to get it cleard i wasnt the only one there were 100 of us that morning before the turned it off bloody stupid
I thought it was ok to travel at 30 in a 40. Tee hee :P
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i got flashed about 10 yrs ago for doing 30 mph in a 40 limit it took 6 monthe to sort out and i had to go to court to finaly to get it cleard i wasnt the only one there were 100 of us that morning before the turned it off bloody stupid
I thought it was ok to travel at 30 in a 40. Tee hee :P
Only with your fog lights switched on ::)