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Re: speeding fine.
« Reply #30 on: 07 September 2014, 23:36:17 »


I'm in the same boat. Got flashed on the M25 on Thursday, expecting a letter in the post at some stage  :(

You would be really unlucky to get one.....many of those cameras dont work or for other reasons dont issue tickets.

I hope you're right. However this wasn't one of the cameras on a gantry, it was a new one by the side of the motorway at the end of a joining sliproad. Anyway, fingers (and everything else) crossed  :-\

I would errrrrr point out that I did "floor it" as there was a fast moving convoy of trucks looming on both inside lanes. The MV6 can really move when it wants to  ::)
Sorry, but that's tosh, and no defence...They're limited, and unless they are in heavy traffic they will be doing no more than 57/8 as a rule. On level ground they certainly won't be going any faster

Now, I know that, it's why I have to accelerate to an excess of 70 MPH to pass many a truck, mostly tippers, on my morning commute, flatish road, A689 Between Sedgefield and the A19, that I don't understand............ ;) ::) ::)
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« Reply #31 on: 07 September 2014, 23:57:29 »

You need to be doing a minimum of 10% more than the vehicle you're overtaking in order to pass it cleanly.

Say said tipper is actually doing 58mph, to pass it safely you need to be travelling 6mph (58 x 10%=5.8) faster, so an actual speed of 64mph, indicating as 68/9 mph on your speedo. You'll be going faster in order to be satisfied that you're carrying out the manoeuvre in a way that is sufficiently swift for your piece of mind, so might subconsciously aim for twenty percent, or 12mph, giving 70 mph actual or 75/6 indicated :y

Ergo, the truck isn't actually speeding, it is simply covering ground more quickly than you perceive it should be...
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« Reply #32 on: 08 September 2014, 00:28:17 »

You need to be doing a minimum of 10% more than the vehicle you're overtaking in order to pass it cleanly.

Say said tipper is actually doing 58mph, to pass it safely you need to be travelling 6mph (58 x 10%=5.8) faster, so an actual speed of 64mph, indicating as 68/9 mph on your speedo. You'll be going faster in order to be satisfied that you're carrying out the manoeuvre in a way that is sufficiently swift for your piece of mind, so might subconsciously aim for twenty percent, or 12mph, giving 70 mph actual or 75/6 indicated :y

Ergo, the truck isn't actually speeding, it is simply covering ground more quickly than you perceive it should be...

Very technical so I am not going to argue with that.......... :y :y

I also remember, in the old days where a tweek of the fuel pump, or a screw in of a throttle stop enabled increased Speed, all before the 56mph limit, pre taco as well. goad I am feeling old........... :D :D
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« Reply #33 on: 08 September 2014, 01:54:59 »

Its £100 fine now too...

It's the points that really bother me, and I've already done a speed awareness course so they won't let me do another one for a while.

What is the point of doing another speed awareness course if the first one did nothing to change your tendency to speed? It is very similar to a suspended sentence. You cannot get a second suspended sentence if you re-offend during the period.

That, in a much more charming manor, is exactly what you quoted.

What is the point in re stating the same thing....etc etc . I know you work in an NHS environment but jeez.... Chilllllllll Winstaaaaarn.

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« Reply #34 on: 08 September 2014, 10:35:18 »

Is there a time limit in which to expect the paperwork to come to my house for a speeding offence? Its been 17 days since I committed the crime of the century and still waiting for the postman? :'(

The 14 day ruling only applies to times you aren't stopped at the scene of the crime - such as a speed camera offence. Since you were stopped at the time, and the identity of the driver was established at the scene (you showed your license) then the time limit that applies is 6 months. It's not a guideline, or a rule - it's the LAW . Section 127 of The Magistrates Act 1980 : http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1980/43/section/127

The usual progress (provided your speed wasn't stupid) is for you to be sent a "Conditional offer of a fixed penalty" - aka CoFP. This gives you the option of pleading guilty to the offence at the earliest opportunity, and accepting the 3 points and £100 fine. You have 28 days to accept that offer. You can either accept this, decline and fight, or ignore (which will be treated as decline and fight eventually). If you ignore, you may get a reminder - but don't rely on it - they don't have to issue reminders. 

Once you've ignored/declined the CoFP, the CPS have to 'ley the information' before the courts within 6 months from the date of the offence. The courts will then issue a summons which will be sent to your last known address. Thus may take a few days/weeks to process after the information is "leyed", so you aren't really safe for about 7 months.

If the CoFP arrives after month 5, then you can wait the 28 days, and by the time the CPS realise you're ignoring them, they will be outside the 6 months limit to ley the information and go through the courts.

If I were you, I'd just sit tight, and wait to see what the postie brings.
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« Reply #35 on: 08 September 2014, 15:44:06 »

When the paperwork comes through I shall just plead guilty your honour and pay the £100 and sob like a big girls blouse my clean licence is no longer clean.. :(
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« Reply #36 on: 08 September 2014, 17:03:19 »

clean licence


Ah, if you've got a current clean one, if you were within the 'threshold' you may qualify for a SAC.
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« Reply #37 on: 08 September 2014, 17:26:36 »

Been clean since 1988..... :)
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« Reply #38 on: 08 September 2014, 17:51:40 »

clean licence


Ah, if you've got a current clean one, if you were within the 'threshold' you may qualify for a SAC.
Obviously going quickly enough to attract attention though... ::)
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Re: speeding fine.
« Reply #39 on: 08 September 2014, 19:19:36 »

I blame the mother-in-law.. :-\
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« Reply #40 on: 08 September 2014, 19:30:11 »

I wouldn't worry too much about your misdemeanour. Now me....I might be in real trouble.... :o
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« Reply #41 on: 08 September 2014, 19:35:10 »

What you done now STMO????  :o :o :o ::) ::) ::)
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Re: speeding fine.
« Reply #42 on: 08 September 2014, 19:46:52 »

Sounds like your saying a ban is in order then?? :-\
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« Reply #43 on: 08 September 2014, 19:55:22 »

Sounds like your saying a ban is in order then??

Depends on what speed you were doing & what the limit was  ???
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« Reply #44 on: 08 September 2014, 19:57:01 »

Sounds like your saying a ban is in order then??

Depends on what speed you were doing & what the limit was  ???
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