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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: chrisgixer on 26 September 2014, 15:46:56
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....been there 30 seconds or so....bonk up the back.
Driver says there's no damage....
...what do you say/do?
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Take their details, call the insurance company, claim whiplash, live off the
winnings compensation for a while.
I mean..
Many years ago I was the bonker rather than the bonkee, we both looked at the cars, shrugged and went on our way (My Renault 19 gave the back of her Renault 18 a little smooch).. these days I'd want to take details just in case there was a sudden claim that I was in reverse or similar and an insurance company started hounding me.
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Take their details, call the insurance company, claim whiplash, live off the winnings compensation for a while.
I mean..
Many years ago I was the bonker rather than the bonkee, we both looked at the cars, shrugged and went on our way (My Renault 19 gave the back of her Renault 18 a little smooch).. these days I'd want to take details just in case there was a sudden claim that I was in reverse or similar and an insurance company started hounding me.
What he said :y
What you done btw...
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Take their details, call the insurance company, claim whiplash, live off the winnings compensation for a while.
I mean..
Many years ago I was the bonker rather than the bonkee, we both looked at the cars, shrugged and went on our way (My Renault 19 gave the back of her Renault 18 a little smooch).. these days I'd want to tsake details just in case there was a sudden claim that I was in reverse or similar and an insurance company started hounding me.
What he said :y
What you done btw...
As said but I'd probably nut him first to get the message across. ::) ;) ;D
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Always take the details and check the car well, was looking at a Ka at lunch which had suffered just the same, no visible damage but a nice ripple in the boot floor when you lifted the carpet.
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Always take the details and check the car well, was looking at a Ka at lunch which had suffered just the same, no visible damage but a nice ripple in the boot floor when you lifted the carpet.
...plus you could find the non-visible fault when you go to drive off
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Take their details, call the insurance company, claim whiplash, live off the winnings compensation for a while.
I mean..
Many years ago I was the bonker rather than the bonkee, we both looked at the cars, shrugged and went on our way (My Renault 19 gave the back of her Renault 18 a little smooch).. these days I'd want to take details just in case there was a sudden claim that I was in reverse or similar and an insurance company started hounding me.
What he said :y
What you done btw...
Well, I haven't snapped the arrogant little shit over my knee, if that's what you mean.
He was as in a flat bed transit. Passed him earlier driving like he didn't care what he hit. And so it proved.
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Indeed, given that it only takes 5 minutes to pull the bumper off, double check. Crashbar will likely be kinked even if the bumper appears ok.
This is why it is prudent to exchange details. If bumper shell is sound, looking at about £200 in repair costs, less if diy :y obviously more if bumper shell/or paint are required :-\
Pikey by any chance :-\
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He was as in a flat bed transit. Passed him earlier driving like he didn't care what he hit. And so it proved.
Wasn't Duncan was it? :-X
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Indeed, given that it only takes 5 minutes to pull the bumper off, double check. Crashbar will likely be kinked even if the bumper appears ok.
This is why it is prudent to exchange details. If bumper shell is sound, looking at about £200 in repair costs, less if diy :y obviously more if bumper shell/or paint are required :-\
Pikey by any chance :-\
Mmmmyeeeeah you haven't got park pilot, or LPG filler in the bumper, have you :)
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He was as in a flat bed transit. Passed him earlier driving like he didn't care what he hit. And so it proved.
Wasn't Duncan was it? :-X
No, now steady on, this happened in Sloufh, be fair.
Obviously I didn't agree with the other driver. But he did insist, and the fact he used to be a mechanic means he couldn't be wrong of course. All cars are designed to take an impact up to 10mph without damage, he told me.
But it gets better. I faked for his insurance details, so he gave me his address, saying he didn't have insurance details. He did give me a mobile. Which I rang on the spot. So he had my number and i had.... The number of the iphone he had in his pocket. I presume that's likely to be his.
He then demanded my address in return. To which I refused. No way was I giving my addess to a pikey looking opposer like him. You have the reg you have my number. I'm the one that needs the details, I said.
And shut my car door to leave. Which he opened again. Demanding and screaming are you leaving the scene. Yes, I replied and drove off only for him to punch thecside if the car while running after the car.
This was repeated at the next set of lights as he stopped, this time, behind me.
So to recap.
He drove into my car.
Claimed no damage.
Told me he was a mechanic.
So there can't became damage. Lol
Didn't apologise.
Sort of implied it was my fault at one point but couldn't really grasp exactly how.
Abused me for not giving details even though I had stopped and done so.
And to polish off, punched the side if the car twice.
Did I give him my address? Oppsing no i didn't ;D
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Funny you should mention hitting in rear, saw one today 3 cars in front of me in slow moving traffic.
A bmw 3 series went into the back of a discovery. The bmw came off a lot worse than the discovery. The guys reaction in the discovery was pricless(f'ing and blinding about slow moving traffic and her not paying attention ;D)
the young lady in the bmw was in floods of tears.
wIsh I had a dash cam now :(
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Ask MID will tell you if he's insured or not...
My guesstimate was for the new crash bar, polystyrene insert and brackets plus a bit for your time :y
No damage below 10mph roughly translates to no structural damage to the shell of the car...
Might be worth reporting to Plod. He won't as I assume he is not insured, and given your local Bobby box is two roads away, it's hardly a hardship for you :y
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He was as in a flat bed transit. Passed him earlier driving like he didn't care what he hit. And so it proved.
Wasn't Duncan was it? :-X
No, now steady on, this happened in Sloufh, be fair.
Obviously I didn't agree with the other driver. But he did insist, and the fact he used to be a mechanic means he couldn't be wrong of course. All cars are designed to take an impact up to 10mph without damage, he told me.
But it gets better. I faked for his insurance details, so he gave me his address, saying he didn't have insurance details. He did give me a mobile. Which I rang on the spot. So he had my number and i had.... The number of the iphone he had in his pocket. I presume that's likely to be his.
He then demanded my address in return. To which I refused. No way was I giving my addess to a pikey looking opposer like him. You have the reg you have my number. I'm the one that needs the details, I said.
And shut my car door to leave. Which he opened again. Demanding and screaming are you leaving the scene. Yes, I replied and drove off only for him to punch thecside if the car while running after the car.
This was repeated at the next set of lights as he stopped, this time, behind me.
So to recap.
He drove into my car.
Claimed no damage.
Told me he was a mechanic.
So there can't became damage. Lol
Didn't apologise.
Sort of implied it was my fault at one point but couldn't really grasp exactly how.
Abused me for not giving details even though I had stopped and done so.
And to polish off, punched the side if the car twice.
Did I give him my address? Oppsing no i didn't ;D
You're a big lad, Chris. Surprised you didn't give him a slap!
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Ask MID will tell you if he's insured or not...
My guesstimate was for the new crash bar, polystyrene insert and brackets plus a bit for your time :y
No damage below 10mph roughly translates to no structural damage to the shell of the car...
Might be worth reporting to Plod. He won't as I assume he is not insured, and given your local Bobby box is two roads away, it's hardly a hardship for you :y
You think the police will give a stuff....they should....but 99% wont.
This has made me wonder...maybe the resident officer could confirm,but I do believe you have a legal duty to swap details,assume that means Reg of cars/name and address and insurance company.
If you felt intidated by this pikey lead stealing unwashed van driver then id say 999 and help im being raped by an IS terrorist who has an AK47 and a sharp Veg Knife.
Probably get half the station turn up for a nosey... ;D
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You only need to swap insurance details of there is an injury. To remain legal, law says you must swap reg numbers, name address of drivers and name and address of vehicle owner if different to driver.
And that's it.
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You only need to swap insurance details of there is an injury. To remain legal, law says you must swap reg numbers, name address of drivers and name and address of vehicle owner if different to driver.
And that's it.
So basically having left the scene for fear of assualt, Chris needs to report it and give his details, with proof of address and insurance, so that the third party can reasonably go to a police station to obtain Chris' details... thereby mitigating the lack of exchange at the scene :-\
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I didn't write it, just paraphrasing it from an aging memory!
Again, insurance swap not required unless there is an injury.
If details not swapped at the scene then incident needs reporting at police office as soon as reasonable practicable and in any case, within 24 hours of occurrence thereof to be legal.
:)
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I didn't write it, just paraphrasing it from an aging memory!
Again, insurance swap not required unless there is an injury.
If details not swapped at the scene then incident needs reporting at police office as soon as reasonable practicable and in any case, within 24 hours of occurrence thereof to be legal.
:)
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Highlighted for attn of 'Our Man in Not Reading' :y
edited for word filter ::)
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Current legislation (I think) is RTA 1988 sections 170(1) and (2) as I recall.
Duty of driver to stop, report accident and give information or documents.
(1)This section applies in a case where, owing to the presence of a [F1mechanically propelled vehicle] on a road [F2or other public place], an accident occurs by which—
(a)personal injury is caused to a person other than the driver of that [F1mechanically propelled vehicle], or
(b)damage is caused—
(i)to a vehicle other than that [F1mechanically propelled vehicle] or a trailer drawn by that [F1mechanically propelled vehicle], or
(ii)to an animal other than an animal in or on that [F1mechanically propelled vehicle] or a trailer drawn by that [F1mechanically propelled vehicle], or
(iii)to any other property constructed on, fixed to, growing in or otherwise forming part of the land on which the road [F3or place] in question is situated or land adjacent to such land.
(2)The driver of the [F1mechanically propelled vehicle] must stop and, if required to do so by any person having reasonable grounds for so requiring, give his name and address and also the name and address of the owner and the identification marks of the vehicle.
(3)If for any reason the driver of the [F1mechanically propelled vehicle] does not give his name and address under subsection (2) above, he must report the accident.
(4)A person who fails to comply with subsection (2) or (3) above is guilty of an offence.
(5)If, in a case where this section applies by virtue of subsection (1)(a) above, the driver of [F4a motor vehicle] does not at the time of the accident produce such a certificate of insurance or security, or other evidence, as is mentioned in section 165(2)(a) of this Act—
(a)to a constable, or
(b)to some person who, having reasonable grounds for so doing, has required him to produce it,
the driver must report the accident and produce such a certificate or other evidence.
This subsection does not apply to the driver of an invalid carriage.
(6)To comply with a duty under this section to report an accident or to produce such a certificate of insurance or security, or other evidence, as is mentioned in section 165(2)(a) of this Act, the driver—
(a)must do so at a police station or to a constable, and
(b)must do so as soon as is reasonably practicable and, in any case, within twenty-four hours of the occurrence of the accident.
(7)A person who fails to comply with a duty under subsection (5) above is guilty of an offence, but he shall not be convicted by reason only of a failure to produce a certificate or other evidence if, within [F5seven] days after the occurrence of the accident, the certificate or other evidence is produced at a police station that was specified by him at the time when the accident was reported.
(8)In this section “animal” means horse, cattle, ass, mule, sheep, pig, goat or dog.
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Hmm, I got hit up the back a couple of years back in my old Veccy, same old thing, the guy and his 'mechanic' mate turn up at my house. They were both about 12 years old. Mechanic mate insists the damage to my car is superficial and why don't I just sell them the car for £350 as that was what he thought it worth.
I couldn't open the boot as it was so twisted, so I couldn't show him what I had seen and that was the boot aperture shoved in where the bumper had been pushed in and sprung back out. Tried to tell him that, and he informed me that as he was a mechanic, he knew best. He got a bit arsy, so I told him to sling his hook, to which he replied that he was going to 'burn your house down with your wife and kids inside'
So I told him that should that happen, I'd know just who to blame. And he replied 'Ha, well, you don't know who the f*ck I am'
Then, being such a tough guy, him and the driver ran off down the road when I went over to thump him for being a muppet. Then they screeched off in his car.
So, before that I was considering not going through the insurance as he was a young lad and it would have made his insurance sky high. After that, I called my insurers, informed them, then called the old bill who came over and went and had a chat with him, but couldn't find the mechanic guy as driver denied he had anyone with him.
So the insurers wrote the Veccy off, gave me a grand for it, I bought it back as a Cat C or D write off for 70 quid (can't remember which), sold it as such to a guy off ebay for £300. So I did ok out of that. Luckily my 'new' Omega I'd bought already and was just about to sell the Veccy anyway (for about 400 quid)!
And then I made it my mission to find the mechanic guy, which I did, through a bit of Facebook after finding he was a friend of a friend of a girl my wife works with, Googling, then getting a dodgy Reading chap I know to use his network of contacts to find his address.
And there I've left it as I know exactly who he is, after he found it so amusing that I didn't.
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You only need to swap insurance details of there is an injury. To remain legal, law says you must swap reg numbers, name address of drivers and name and address of vehicle owner if different to driver.
And that's it.
No rudeness intended, but as Al said, couldn't that be seen as intimidating, given the aggression shown at the scene, and also given that the police will not be forthcoming to give those details to the other driver, as posted by many on here recently. :-\
Seeing as he punched the car, the police would have been called in my case, to extract a rounders bat from his ear. ;D
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And there I've left it as I know exactly who he is, after he found it so amusing that I didn't.
Does he know you know? ::) ::)
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Never said I would do it personally, just saying what's needed to be 'legal'. :y
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You only need to swap insurance details of there is an injury. To remain legal, law says you must swap reg numbers, name address of drivers and name and address of vehicle owner if different to driver.
And that's it.
No rudeness intended, but as Al said, couldn't that be seen as intimidating, given the aggression shown at the scene, and also given that the police will not be forthcoming to give those details to the other driver, as posted by many on here recently. :-\
Seeing as he punched the car, the police would have been called in my case, to extract a rounders bat from his ear. ;D
It is my intention to report the incident. .... Yes I know it's easy to be wise after reading helpful, posts here. Thankyou gents. :y
....but it really was/ is my intention, even before reading this. Not that I was fully aware of the laws involved. But I had an idea 24hours was involved somewhere.
I have given all means to allow him to contact me if needed. So, rightly or wrongly, I do feel obligations have been met. Wrongly to an extent of the address so far though, it seems.
I have spoken to insurers who have looked up the address from the reg instantly, and not divulged it, so it's not hard to sort. Although the driver does need to be insured for that to work.
Not a defense, just I forwarding of experiences.
Also, if I had lumped the little arse. It would be little old me in the doc. There's cameras everywhere round there. Being Slough. And they won't get a conviction from what happened today, so naturally, "sorry sir, there's no footage available" however if I'd belted him. Which I'm ashamed to say i so nearly did to the point the right arm was twitching. :-[ Then there would be a conviction on footage that magically boosts an officers KPI's by a level or two.
It probably helped to of been on a speed awareness course the day before tbh. As lagalities and human, as opposed to de human, concerns where still fresh.
...but why is it always in September when these things happen. Every bloody year.
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Slough...just bought my wife a Ford Galaxy from there,christ they need to sort the bloody road works. ;D
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Slough...just bought my wife a Ford Galaxy from there,christ they need to sort the bloody road works. ;D
Round the back roads North of the a4...?
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I normally wouldn't condone such things but it sounds like the guy is complete Tuesday, so stick a whiplash claim in! ;)
The prick deserves it! :y
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I normally wouldn't condone such things but it sounds like the guy is complete Tuesday, so stick a whiplash claim in! ;)
The prick deserves it! :y
Only works if he is insured...
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Funny you should mention hitting in rear, saw one today 3 cars in front of me in slow moving traffic.
A bmw 3 series went into the back of a discovery. The bmw came off a lot worse than the discovery. The guys reaction in the discovery was pricless(f'ing and blinding about slow moving traffic and her not paying attention ;D)
the young lady in the bmw was in floods of tears.
wIsh I had a dash cam now :(
Get one they don't cost the earth these days :y, Mine have already paid off for them selfs for the quality they have recorded at the Vauxhall dealers.. Originally bought them just for peace of mind incase anything did happen :y
Here's a clip I captured on a dual carriageway a crash of sorts.. LINK (http://youtu.be/_IHCRKDMEcw)
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If you felt intidated by this pikey lead stealing unwashed van driver then id say 999 and help im being raped by an IS terrorist who has an AK47 and a sharp Veg Knife.
Probably get half the station turn up for a nosey... ;D
As many know, my eldest bro has a retail business selling low volume, high value goods, so is frequently a target. The last armed robbery he had, he called 999, explaining the situation as it was unfolding, but was asked to call back when the criminals had left, then plod could pop in.
They left empty handed that time, as one of his more elderly staff, a 5' 60+ year old had more balls than the Police.
So, no, plod wouldn't turn up unless they had an armed unit.
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Well. Seems I did indeed fulfill my obligations on full at the scene. Nothing further to report. No further action necessary to satisfy legalities.
According to the lady at the desk and an officer in an interview room.
I think they all point to the data base now. :-\
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:y better to be sure than not imho...
Any evidence that the bumper moved out of place :-\
I could send you the body dimensions for the boot if you want to check the shell alignment, you only need a tape measure and the lpg shouldn't be in the way...
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:y better to be sure than not imho...
Any evidence that the bumper moved out of place :-\
I could send you the body dimensions for the boot if you want to check the shell alignment, you only need a tape measure and the lpg shouldn't be in the way...
Nah it's fine mate don't worry. It wasn't hard enough a hit, although there is a witness mark on the bumper. ....and some scuffs on the pas side door.
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:y better to be sure than not imho...
Any evidence that the bumper moved out of place :-\
I could send you the body dimensions for the boot if you want to check the shell alignment, you only need a tape measure and the lpg shouldn't be in the way...
Nah it's fine mate don't worry. It wasn't hard enough a hit, although there is a witness mark on the bumper. ....and some scuffs on the pas side door.
The crash bar is worth checking over then... if you need the bumper off at some point :-\