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Omega Help Area => Omega General Help => Topic started by: robson on 20 October 2015, 22:16:23
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Where can we get brake pad securing pins from?
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Main dealer :y
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I recall a post a while ago detailing part numbers for the different pins. Some were slightly longer for vented rears ??
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Vented rear discs are longer and I was only able to get them from VX dealer who had to order them from Germany.
They arent cheap either ...seem to remember £5/£6 each and you need 4 :(....the anti rattle springs were also different again from memory to suit the pins.
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Long split pins work just as well and should be much easier to source.
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Good call nick And with the end flared would be more secure. But hold on what about the smaller diameter location in the caliper
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Vented rear discs are longer and I was only able to get them from VX dealer who had to order them from Germany.
They arent cheap either ...seem to remember £5/£6 each and you need 4 :(....the anti rattle springs were also different again from memory to suit the pins.
They know how to charge for the smallest of parts eh :( Best get onto them for when ill be needing them very soon .
Do you know how much the anti rattle things were :-\
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Good call nick And with the end flared would be more secure. But hold on what about the smaller diameter location in the caliper
Smaller than what?
I've never seen pad pins that were anything other than a loose fit in any of the holes they go through. And that's before 15 years of road use. All of them have some form of retainer too; whether that's an R-clip, spring clip, or just bending out the ends of the split pin etc etc.
Or you could make a new pin out of some appropriately sized rod, peening one end over with a hammer and drilling a cross hole for a clip. This would take less time than you'd spend at the parts counter explaining why a standard pin won't work in a vented assembly.
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IIrc I got mine from Steve at Omega Spares on Ebay, about £6 the set.
Steve
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Worth a punt maybe?
Ebay set including anti-rattle jobbie (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-CARLTON-OMEGA-BRAKE-PAD-FITTING-PINS-REAR-/320600488010?hash=item4aa547384a:m:m3oaiS7uUoE2PXTcB4FOtCQ)
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Worth a punt maybe?
Ebay set including anti-rattle jobbie (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-CARLTON-OMEGA-BRAKE-PAD-FITTING-PINS-REAR-/320600488010?hash=item4aa547384a:m:m3oaiS7uUoE2PXTcB4FOtCQ)
Nope... clearly not suitable for vented discs :y
And twice the price of normal pattern ones... ::)
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Going back to the original question ...... why would you ever need replacement pins? I've had Vauxhalls/Opels for the best part of 30 years that have all used a variation of the pins used on the back of an Omega for locating pads whether that be at the front (MK1 Cav/Manta) or the back ie the Omega, & I've never ever needed new pins. ??? Knock them out with a pin punch (or 6" nail in Mark's case ::)) and knock 'em back in again with a smear of copperslip.
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Depending on how the car is used/mileage/location etc they can get pretty grotty... causing the pads to stick, which creates all sorts of other issues.
The problem isn't so much the pins, as reversing 10+ years of unmaintenance ;)
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If.. IF the pin is still a good, tight fit, then consider treating them to a day or two in white distilled vinegar, this will dissolve all rust, leaving just the steel. No effort. Then 5 mins with a course wet n dry, like 40-60 grit, to get them to a smooth, easy-sliding surface. (ise a flap wheel if you like, even quicker) Copperslip them up, and pop them in.
Depends how you feel. The new ones from the dealer will last another 15-ish years, ideally longer as they'll be (in theory) coated in copperslip from the day you fit them. But I take your point, £6 for what looks like a thick nail feels wrong. :)
Alternative is to convert to solid rear discs, then your source of pins/springs/discs will never dry up, as these are far far more plentiful than the venteds.
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The correct GM part number for the complete pads and fitting kit is:
9195058 PADS BRAKE SET REAR
Buy anything else at your own risk. You should be able to get them for around £50 if you ask for trade or trade club discount.
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Worth a punt maybe?
Ebay set including anti-rattle jobbie (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-CARLTON-OMEGA-BRAKE-PAD-FITTING-PINS-REAR-/320600488010?hash=item4aa547384a:m:m3oaiS7uUoE2PXTcB4FOtCQ)
Nope... clearly not suitable for vented discs :y
And twice the price of normal pattern ones... ::)
The OP didn't mention vented? ???
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2003 2.6 would have vented rears, no?
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Saying that, my '99 3L does so nothing can be taken for granted :D
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No, you're right, a '03 2.6 should have vented rears. :)
If the OP doesn't have vented rears, then to be honest, the pins are cheap as chips and as easy as a bag of chips to source. A bag of genuine rear pads, springs and pins can be got from the heebay, ex-dealer stock for just under a tenner. :)
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No, you're right, a '03 2.6 should have vented rears. :)
If the OP doesn't have vented rears, then to be honest, the pins are cheap as chips and as easy as a bag of chips to source. A bag of genuine rear pads, springs and pins can be got from the heebay, ex-dealer stock for just under a tenner. :)
Ahh, I see, my missing Omega knowledge here!
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No, not a worry, :) it's a fair point to bring up as it appeared we did all 'jump' at the assumption he has vented rear discs. And it's perfectly plausible he doesn't, to be honest.
I'll be converting over to venteds myself, soon, purely because there's a whole 2.6 back axle going cheap near me. But were I, in 6 months, to then ask 'anyone got some rear caliper pins for my Omega, it's a '96 2.5', then according to the brochure, I'd have solids. And with so many of our cars being modded on one level or another, often they can vary far from standard. :)
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2003 2.6 would have vented rears, no?
Yes... but don't rely on the discs currently fitted as some dickheaded monkey might have fitted solid discs without changing the calipers to match... ::)
As for reverse fitting solids... on the 3.2 you're likely to then need to change the discs every pad change as the TC uses the rear brakes to control wheel slip... the 2.6 doesn't produce anything like as much torque so less likely to trigger TC unless ragging it
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2003 2.6 would have vented rears, no?
Yes... but don't rely on the discs currently fitted as some dickheaded monkey might have fitted solid discs without changing the calipers to match... ::)
As for reverse fitting solids... on the 3.2 you're likely to then need to change the discs every pad change as the TC uses the rear brakes to control wheel slip... the 2.6 doesn't produce anything like as much torque so less likely to trigger TC unless ragging it
Oooh, that's interesting, so not just physically cutting power, but applying brakes too (and each back wheel treat independently as a 2-channel system, unlike the PFL 1-channel TC system) correct? Interesting :)
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Yes I have rear vented discs and I asked the question because my pins are slightly rusted and if they were cheap I would replace them whilst doing a pad change. I purchased Pagit rear pads from a well none supplier for £ 10.43 I have found Pagit to be good enough for me does anybody have a different opinion As for the diameter of the pins the end has a reduced diameter to fit into the caliper body.
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Sorry that price was plus VAT.
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I tend to buy these...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Genuine-Vauxhall-Omega-1994-2000-Rear-Brake-Pads-Non-Vented-Discs-93169001-/151857474275?hash=item235b692ae3:g:pm0AAOSw9N1V1x7K
Ignore the non vented bit as ALL Omega rear pads are identical :y
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Will they fit 2003 Omega
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Will they fit 2003 Omega
Does that come under ...... as ALL Omega rear pads are identical ::) ::)
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Will they fit 2003 Omega
Does that come under ...... as ALL Omega rear pads are identical ::) ::)
Ya think Mcgee... ::)
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When I fully refurbished my rear brakes around 18 months ago when I first acquired current car I was amazed at the condition of the retaining pins,hence why I went the dealer route and replaced them .
They were heavily rusted and had become almost half original thickness in places and were definitly "past their sell by date ".
After searching numerous suppliers it became evident that it was dealer only.These had to be sourced from Germany and took around 14 days to become stock here ,and as earlier posted I seem to recall them being £5-£6 each pin :o
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Depending on how the car is used/mileage/location etc they can get pretty grotty... causing the pads to stick, which creates all sorts of other issues.
The problem isn't so much the pins, as reversing 10+ years of unmaintenance ;)
Pins can usually be tarted up, but the springs tend to fail at the join. They can be pieced back together, but a nice man gave me some non vented pins/springs last night :y
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Anyone got the part number for the pins for vented :-\ At least i think thats what i need on the 2.6 :-\
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In the Test zone :y
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I got my rear pins from brakeparts.co.uk