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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: zirk on 03 December 2015, 06:10:50
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Was on the cards though, wasn't it.
What's your thoughts, right or wrong.
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Given that we haven't the serviceable aircraft to be in two countries at once, imo it is mostly a political stunt.
It may be of help if we are tracking some of the vile shits and they make a run for it over the Syrian border but that's about it.
Again imo, we should concentrate on Iraq with the yanks and leave Syria to the mad vlad and his new best mates, the froggies.
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I`d sooner see the money go on proper border controls so idiots carrying out attacks on innocent people like in Paris can`t get into the country to start with.
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I`d sooner see the money go on proper border controls so idiots carrying out attacks on innocent people like in Paris can`t get into the country to start with.
Sorry, your about 20 years too late for that :)
Most of these vile scum are already living in Europe and holding a European passport.
Imo, the illegal immigrants are just the trigger for what has been bubbling under the surface for a lot of years >:(
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I`d sooner see the money go on proper border controls so idiots carrying out attacks on innocent people like in Paris can`t get into the country to start with.
Sorry, your about 20 years too late for that :)
Most of these vile scum are already living in Europe and holding a European passport.
Imo, the illegal immigrants are just the trigger for what has been bubbling under the surface for a lot of years >:(
The ones that carried out the attacks in Paris were recent immigrants/refugees coming through Turkey.
I know we can`t do anything about the ones that already live here but we should be making an effort to stop any more undesirables coming through our borders.
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I`d sooner see the money go on proper border controls so idiots carrying out attacks on innocent people like in Paris can`t get into the country to start with.
Sorry, your about 20 years too late for that :)
Most of these vile scum are already living in Europe and holding a European passport.
Imo, the illegal immigrants are just the trigger for what has been bubbling under the surface for a lot of years >:(
The ones that carried out the attacks in Paris were recent immigrants/refugees coming through Turkey.
I know we can`t do anything about the ones that already live here but we should be making an effort to stop any more undesirables coming through our borders.
Afraid not... Admittedly one was. But there were French and Belgian Nationals involved too
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Lets face it nobody wants to go to war, but that fact is that we have been attacking IS targets in Iraq for over a year already and it makes no sense to me to stop hitting them when they go over a line on a map or not hit positions and assets they have elsewhere. :-\ Imagine in WW2 if Britain said 'Well we'll attack the Nazis in France, but we'll leave them alone in Germany' ::)
Apparently last night the RAF hit some oil wells operated by IS, which begs the question... Why the hell havn't the Yanks, Frogs, Ivan, Jordanians, or indeed the Syrians taken out IS assets like this already? ::)
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I`d sooner see the money go on proper border controls so idiots carrying out attacks on innocent people like in Paris can`t get into the country to start with.
Sorry, your about 20 years too late for that :)
Most of these vile scum are already living in Europe and holding a European passport.
Imo, the illegal immigrants are just the trigger for what has been bubbling under the surface for a lot of years >:(
The ones that carried out the attacks in Paris were recent immigrants/refugees coming through Turkey.
I know we can`t do anything about the ones that already live here but we should be making an effort to stop any more undesirables coming through our borders.
We can but the Convention of Human Rights and EU law stops us :-X :-X
We try and do pretty well tbh thanks to the English Channel. The real problem is as soon as they flash a EU passport, we can't do sweet F all but welcome them in and point them in the direction of the local mosque and job centre >:( >:( >:(
And now thanks to Frau Merkal's kind offer of welcoming 750,000 of the t wats into Germany and fast tracking them through the passport system, its only going to get worse :(
I saw a survey somewhere last summer when the dozy bitch made that wonderful offer :-X
It basically said that out of those 750,000, 1% will be radicalized so if my maths is correct, that makes 7500 new nutters so stir shit down at there local mosque.
It also said that out of that 1% (7500), 10% will actively promote and take part in jihad >:(
So, to cap it off, Merkal has just given passports to 75 minimum shite stirring, murderous scumbags ::)
Cheers Angela >:(
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Lets face it nobody wants to go to war, but that fact is that we have been attacking IS targets in Iraq for over a year already and it makes no sense to me to stop hitting them when they go over a line on a map or not hit positions and assets they have elsewhere. :-\ Imagine in WW2 if Britain said 'Well we'll attack the Nazis in France, but we'll leave them alone in Germany' ::)
Apparently last night the RAF hit some oil wells operated by IS, which begs the question... Why the hell havn't the Yanks, Frogs, Ivan, Jordanians, or indeed the Syrians taken out IS assets like this already? ::)
Oil makes the world go around ::)
If anybody can get it on the cheap and not get caught, they will sadly :(
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Lets face it nobody wants to go to war, but that fact is that we have been attacking IS targets in Iraq for over a year already and it makes no sense to me to stop hitting them when they go over a line on a map or not hit positions and assets they have elsewhere. :-\ Imagine in WW2 if Britain said 'Well we'll attack the Nazis in France, but we'll leave them alone in Germany' ::)
Apparently last night the RAF hit some oil wells operated by IS, which begs the question... Why the hell havn't the Yanks, Frogs, Ivan, Jordanians, or indeed the Syrians taken out IS assets like this already? ::)
Exactly :(
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I don't think Assad is likely to do it - IS are keeping us nicely distracted from the fact that a year or so ago we were bombing Assad instead..
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I don't think Assad is likely to do it - IS are keeping us nicely distracted from the fact that a year or so ago we were bombing Assad instead..
I recall someone at the time refering to the whole Syrian question as a shit sandwich, the only choice being the filling...
Tofu and lentil shit, meat and two veg shit, three McDonald's a day shit or gastroenteritus shit... doesn't matter how you spread it, it's still all shit.
At the time, Assad was the least palatable choice, now it's the loons ;)
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An exercise in sabre-rattling I'm afraid.
I doubt we will make much of an impact.
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An exercise in sabre-rattling I'm afraid.
I doubt we will make much of an impact.
I we will make several impacts. But they won't have much effect.
After all, bombing Syria isn't going to stop some oppser with a grudge and a gun shooting up a restaurant 2000miles away.
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Might as well drop them on Isis instead of a dummy target in The Wash
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its a NO from me
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its a NO from me
What's a no?
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It'll be a different ball game should, god forbid, one of our planes come down and the pilots are made an example of :'( , would be playing straight into Cameron's hands and justify ground troops going in
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I'm undecided on this but here's a thought...
We have been targeting ISIS/ISIL/Daesh(sp?) for over a year. All that has changed is we are now perusing them over a line on a map, into another country.
Yes, it does increase the chance for both civilian and military casualties. But let's put one thing to bed, we are not starting to target them. It will make no difference to whether we are a target or not.
And, incidentally, the Germans have just voted in favour of joining the strikes too...
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I'm undecided on this but here's a thought...
We have been targeting ISIS/ISIL/Daesh(sp?) for over a year. All that has changed is we are now perusing them over a line on a map, into another country.
Yes, it does increase the chance for both civilian and military casualties. But let's put one thing to bed, we are not starting to target them. It will make no difference to whether we are a target or not.
And, incidentally, the Germans have just voted in favour of joining the strikes too...
The German military has said it will supply non combat support LD
That includes stand off elint (electronic intelligence) and 1500 troops in a non combat support role.
After years of cuts, the German military is more oppsed up then ours >:(
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It's a complex situation, and I don't think any of us, or most of those in the commons the other day, really have enough of a feel for the situation to truly judge what response is best.
Our joining the military action in Syria will likely be a small link in the chain of actions military, diplomatic, economic, cyber and so on that will eventually bring these primitives down. Small links are all anyone can contribute, and it's right that we do our bit.
More important than that, it's a demonstration of solidarity with France and the civilised, democratic world, any member state of which could turn out to be the next victim any day now.
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I'm undecided on this but here's a thought...
We have been targeting ISIS/ISIL/Daesh(sp?) for over a year. All that has changed is we are now perusing them over a line on a map, into another country.
Yes, it does increase the chance for both civilian and military casualties. But let's put one thing to bed, we are not starting to target them. It will make no difference to whether we are a target or not.
And, incidentally, the Germans have just voted in favour of joining the strikes too...
The German military has said it will supply non combat support LD
That includes stand off elint (electronic intelligence) and 1500 troops in a non combat support role.
After years of cuts, the German military is more oppsed up then ours >:(
And recon flights ;)
Non-combat or not, they are still combining forces to try and help in the attempt to sort the whole mess out.
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its a NO from me
If you mean "No" to airstrikes, would you be singing from the same sheet if it were friends/relatives of yours being targeted by IS. I don`t think so
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its a NO from me
If you mean "No" to airstrikes, would you be singing from the same sheet if it were friends/relatives of yours being targeted by IS. I don`t think so
I mean NO NO NO
no way should we be bombing them
so we bomb them ,kill innocent people that makes us as bad as them,so they then retaliate and so it goes on.
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its a NO from me
If you mean "No" to airstrikes, would you be singing from the same sheet if it were friends/relatives of yours being targeted by IS. I don`t think so
I mean NO NO NO
no way should we be bombing them
so we bomb them ,kill innocent people that makes us as bad as them,so they then retaliate and so it goes on.
No response then?
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Not sure why we still call it bombing, TBH.
That expression strikes up images of something that topples out of the bottom of a B52 8 miles up and, with a bit of luck, lands on the right continent.
I suspect the cowards are probably using civilians as a human shield, though, which probably limits us to cutting off their supply chains, infrastructure and training areas by air strike, for this very reason.
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its a NO from me
If you mean "No" to airstrikes, would you be singing from the same sheet if it were friends/relatives of yours being targeted by IS. I don`t think so
I mean NO NO NO
no way should we be bombing them
so we bomb them ,kill innocent people that makes us as bad as them,so they then retaliate and so it goes on.
No response then?
the innocent people we kill are all friends/relatives of someone
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It's a dog eat dog world, always has been, always will be... Doing nothing doesn't achieve anything... Even the Americans figured that one out... (though it took Pearl Harbour for it to sink in as a concept).
Not getting involved would not preclude us from being a target. Believing different is very noble, and very naive.
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its a NO from me
If you mean "No" to airstrikes, would you be singing from the same sheet if it were friends/relatives of yours being targeted by IS. I don`t think so
I mean NO NO NO
no way should we be bombing them
so we bomb them ,kill innocent people that makes us as bad as them,so they then retaliate and so it goes on.
But we were already bombing them, just not in Syria
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its a NO from me
If you mean "No" to airstrikes, would you be singing from the same sheet if it were friends/relatives of yours being targeted by IS. I don`t think so
I mean NO NO NO
no way should we be bombing them
so we bomb them ,kill innocent people that makes us as bad as them,so they then retaliate and so it goes on.
We haven't "bombed" anybody for about 20 years :)
The weapons we use are precision guided to within a metre of so minimum.
Brimstone and Paveway 4's explosive charge is set from the cockpit of whatever it using them so that it kills the target and causes the least amount of harm to anything else.
The ROE for British forces is incredibly tight too.
In fact, our lads cannot fire if their is a risk of casualties to non combatants.
Please don't mistake our lads and lasses for the total gung ho oppswits across the pond who don't know what a hospital looks like or Mad Vlad who is at this moment throwing cluster munitions all over the place
But at the end of the day, the British forces fight and die so that you can live your life in a place were you can make your opinions known without fear of death or mutilation ;)
I'm sure ISIS will be quite happy to sit down and discuses your concerns :)
But don't let it slip if your gay because there is a good chance you will get a good kicking and then thrown off the top of a 5 story building, regardless of whether your a dedicated follower of Islam or not ;)
They will also video the event so your family and friends can all sit down and watch it after prayers :)