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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: zirk on 12 January 2016, 08:41:53
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Just when things were becoming stable, Update, now the WiFi is not working since Friday on the main machine.
Tried everything, reboots, WiFi on/ off, checked drivers, can't do anymore updates obviously, although it did say unable to update all blah, blah, nothing new there.
Anyone, run out of ideas, I'm not rebuilding (again), if I do its going back on 7, WiFi is on just showing no networks.
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Just to add, any restore points, I'm sure there was at least one, has been wiped via the latest update that's caused the issue. >:(
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Just done a Restore from a Drive Image from about a week ago, that was fun as the last image I had was in the cloud, so used one of the Mobiles to download the image (totally forgot SD Cards don't support more than 5gb on the mobile ::))
Anyway restored back to least week, and still doesn't work, WiFi On, no networks found. >:( >:(
Starting wonder wither the latest 10 update has screwed my Bios over. :-\, machine is working fine apart from the lack of WiFi connection.
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Tried a USB WiFi/Ethernet adapter?
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Have you ever had a VPN, cisco or otherwise, installed prior to or after the upgrade to Win10?
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Tried a USB WiFi/Ethernet adapter?
Possible, not sure if Ive got one here though, might have a old 3G USB dongle that could have WiFi with it, will go on the hunt. ;)
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Have you ever had a VPN, cisco or otherwise, installed prior to or after the upgrade to Win10?
No, not on this machine its home bound.
Just noticed my email client (Thunderbird) has gone walk about as well, as in, its no were to be found on the system, fairly sure its not related to the WiFi issue, :( probably related to the 10 update though. ::)
Fairly sure someone else on OOF had this WiFi issue, could have been TB. :-\
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Tried a USB WiFi/Ethernet adapter?
Possible, not sure if Ive got one here though, might have a old 3G USB dongle that could have WiFi with it, will go on the hunt. ;)
I would certainly try this as a first step in debugging as you can separate an existing/updating driver issue with something more nefarious.
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This is exactly the problem I described last week with the wife's laptop. With it being a works one, and her not having admin privileges, she had to get the IT fella to fix it.
He said something like 'with every update it seems to f**k around with the wifi settings". Far too technical a statement for me to understand. ::)
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This is exactly the problem I described last week with the wife's laptop. With it being a works one, and her not having admin privileges, she had to get the IT fella to fix it.
He said something like 'with every update it seems to f**k around with the wifi settings". Far too technical a statement for me to understand. ::)
Well, Ive just done a windows trouble shooter (you never know, you can live in hope), and apart from the usual, switch it on, plug in your Ethernet cable, reset your router, all that bollards, it does tell me there is a WiFi problem and contact my Administrator, ::)
Something is hanging it, I reckon, but I dont want to start re installing stuff for something that probably isn't broken.
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This is exactly the problem I described last week with the wife's laptop. With it being a works one, and her not having admin privileges, she had to get the IT fella to fix it.
He said something like 'with every update it seems to f**k around with the wifi settings". Far too technical a statement for me to understand. ::)
Well, Ive just done a windows trouble shooter (you never know, you can live in hope), and apart from the usual, switch it on, plug in your Ethernet cable, reset your router, all that bollards, it does tell me there is a WiFi problem and contact my Administrator, ::)
Something is hanging it, I reckon, but I dont want to start re installing stuff for something that probably isn't broken.
Well.....apparently...IT man fixed it in no time. :-\
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I had a problem with WiFi on Win 10 some time ago, nothing worked, I Don't remember the details, Just that i am back on Win 7... No problems since then.
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Not a switch to disable the wifi (or key combo) - most laptops have them. This would explain the (presumably) reportedly working driver, but no wifi networks.
Other thing worth checking if older wifi adapter, disable power saving on wifi - this was the cure for mine, but mine could see networks, just not connect.
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I had this last week with a budget end Toshiba Satellite with an Atheros WiFi Adaptor.
The driver from Atheros wouldn't work, but the Toshiba 'Atheros' driver sorted the problem.
Try downloading the driver from the System Manufacturers website. :y
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Win 10 sounds rubbish ...im on 7 at the mo, but not looking forward to moving on
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Win 10 sounds rubbish ...im on 7 at the mo, but not looking forward to moving on
Provided you don't have a load of shit installed on Win7, you will be able to upgrade (for FREE) with no trouble at all.
It's a FREE upgrade to a blisteringly quick, and very stable OS (Yes, I'm talking about Windows). Did I mention it's FREE?
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I had the same issues as TB with my laptop seeing networks but couldn`t connect after going to sleep and needing restarting although I`ve had no issues what so ever with the HP Elitebook.
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Tried a USB WiFi/Ethernet adapter?
Possible, not sure if Ive got one here though, might have a old 3G USB dongle that could have WiFi with it, will go on the hunt. ;)
I would certainly try this as a first step in debugging as you can separate an existing/updating driver issue with something more nefarious.
Ok, I managed to get an old O2 Huewui dongle, or what ever there called, working on HSDPA, but couldn't get the WiFi side to work (that's probably down to the crappy software that comes with it, as the 3g side kicked in ok). Which means a least I can download and update my drivers directly.
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Not a switch to disable the wifi (or key combo) - most laptops have them. This would explain the (presumably) reportedly working driver, but no wifi networks.
Other thing worth checking if older wifi adapter, disable power saving on wifi - this was the cure for mine, but mine could see networks, just not connect.
Yea, there is, its a Samsung Lapp, WiFi can be switched on and off using Fn + key, although its not working, luckily its stuck on On.
In fact most of the Fn keys do something with the lappy which is controlled by Samsung own back ground apps, I think that's possibly where the problem could be, think win10 is trying to take control and its conflicting.
Currently downloading all the latest Software Drivers and Apps, which is a bit painful as a restart is required foe each one, then windows updates kicks in at the same time. ::)
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Not a switch to disable the wifi (or key combo) - most laptops have them. This would explain the (presumably) reportedly working driver, but no wifi networks.
Other thing worth checking if older wifi adapter, disable power saving on wifi - this was the cure for mine, but mine could see networks, just not connect.
Yea, there is, its a Samsung Lapp, WiFi can be switched on and off using Fn + key, although its not working, luckily its stuck on On.
In fact most of the Fn keys do something with the lappy which is controlled by Samsung own back ground apps, I think that's possibly where the problem could be, think win10 is trying to take control and its conflicting.
Currently downloading all the latest Software Drivers and Apps, which is a bit painful as a restart is required foe each one, then windows updates kicks in at the same time. ::)
;) :y
Good luck:)
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Re done all the drivers and Samsung Apps, and another win10 update, all is as it should be, still no joy.
Plan F is to do another rebuild on 10, but this time omitting all the Samsung Stuff, and hope 10 copes with it, although guessing that means losing all my Fn + keys shortcuts, some of which I use, mainly Vol, Screen brightness, Eco / Power mode on battary and Ex Display switcher. :-\
Short of that I'm out of ideas.
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Look...I don't really know what I'm talking about here but, as I said, this happened to wifey's work laptop. She said IT man fixed it really quickly by changing something to 'allow' from ' limited' in the settings.
Exactly the same problem, could see our sky router but wouldn't connect.
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by changing something to 'allow' from ' limited' in the settings.
Kinda narrows it down a bit then.
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by changing something to 'allow' from ' limited' in the settings.
Kinda narrows it down a bit then.
Well...gotta be in network settings.....somewhere ;D
This one seems closest to wifey's problem but is win 8.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_rt-hardware/after-windows-81-update-wifi-shows-limited-access/08bdaf6a-c6a9-409b-b643-a5735e8d39f5?db=5
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Fn Keys are usually switchable from Primary to Secondary (and visa-versa) in the Laptop BIOS settings.
If it's modern enough, it'll have UEFI capabilities which may or may not be switched on. If you have that facility in the BIOS settings, switch it ON. Any later version of Windows will then see the Fn Keys and extra 'hardware' features of your Laptop.
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by changing something to 'allow' from ' limited' in the settings.
Kinda narrows it down a bit then.
Well...gotta be in network settings.....somewhere ;D
This one seems closest to wifey's problem but is win 8.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_rt-hardware/after-windows-81-update-wifi-shows-limited-access/08bdaf6a-c6a9-409b-b643-a5735e8d39f5?db=5
Thanks, no I really do mean that, but I'm not getting that far as to connect to anything, just showing no networks found.
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by changing something to 'allow' from ' limited' in the settings.
Kinda narrows it down a bit then.
Well...gotta be in network settings.....somewhere ;D
This one seems closest to wifey's problem but is win 8.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_rt-hardware/after-windows-81-update-wifi-shows-limited-access/08bdaf6a-c6a9-409b-b643-a5735e8d39f5?db=5
Thanks, no I really do mean that, but I'm not getting that far as to connect to anything, just showing no networks found.
Ahhhh....wifes laptop could see SKY********, but wouldn't connect. :(
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Fn Keys are usually switchable from Primary to Secondary (and visa-versa) in the Laptop BIOS settings.
If it's modern enough, it'll have UEFI capabilities which may or may not be switched on. If you have that facility in the BIOS settings, switch it ON. Any later version of Windows will then see the Fn Keys and extra 'hardware' features of your Laptop.
ok, I'll check, but don't remember seeing anything in bios when I looked yesterday. Thanks.
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You can also access UEFI options from the Windows 10 Boot Options Menu.
Press and HOLD the SHIFT KEY when you restart (Click Restart from the Start Menu),
When the Menu loads, Click 'Troubleshooting' and then Advanced Options.
If there are UEFI capabilities, there will be a UEFI menu there.
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You can also access UEFI options from the Windows 10 Boot Options Menu.
Press and HOLD the SHIFT KEY when you restart (Click Restart from the Start Menu),
When the Menu loads, Click 'Troubleshooting' and then Advanced Options.
If there are UEFI capabilities, there will be a UEFI menu there.
Cheers I'll try that in a bit, just in the process of putting its old win7 image on a spare HD, just want to prove a point and make sure my WiFi hasn't gone tats up coincidently.
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One final point. I have had success in the past by physically unplugging the WiFi adaptor from the main board for a few seconds (with the laptop OFF, obviously).
They are usually found beneath a panel on the base of the laptop. Usually very easy to access as they are 'generally speaking' interchangeable between laptops. It's only the Antennae which are difficult to get at (behind the Display Panel, usually).
I still believe you are having a driver issue, though.
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Ok, quickly built my old setup from an win7 image on to another drive via USB.
Switched off machine, pulled main battery, pulled Ram and pulled the HD drive out, switched back on, minus the bits and back off again (dont ask, I always do that if swapping OS on the same machine).
Put Ram back in, put win7 HD in, and switched back on, hoping to see the WiFi come to life in Win7, but alas, not paying attention Ive put the win10 HD back in by accident, but guess what!
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Ok, quickly built my old setup from an win7 image on to another drive via USB.
Switched off machine, pulled main battery, pulled Ram and pulled the HD drive out, switched back on, minus the bits and back off again (dont ask, I always do that if swapping OS on the same machine).
Put Ram back in, put win7 HD in, and switched back on, hoping to see the WiFi come to life in Win7, but alas, not paying attention Ive put the win10 HD back in by accident, but guess what!
Congratulations - You fixed it! ;D ;D
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Yep, fully signed in on the network, before I had a chance to sign in to my user. :y
Little Batsward. ::)
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Yep, fully signed in on the network, before I had a chance to sign in to my user. :y
Little Batsward. ::)
I know how you feel. The immense relief that the problem has gone away, but the even more immense frustration that you didn't know what the problem was in the first place.
Kick it.... hard.
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I am sure somebody suggested that you switch it off and back on again ::)
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I am sure somebody suggested that you switch it off and back on again ::)
Its been switched off, re started, re booted, cold booted, unplugged, etc, but to no avail, not sure but being booted with no ram or HD seem to give it a good kick up the rear end.
Talking about boots, just in case, have done a couple since, and its still fine.