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Title: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Rods2 on 23 January 2016, 16:58:46
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-3412616/How-Labour-turned-London-foreign-city.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-3412616/How-Labour-turned-London-foreign-city.html)

Discuss?
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: zirk on 23 January 2016, 17:12:08
Not going to bother reading the link, but based on my own experience, Ive pretty much worked in London all my life, used to love it, now Im afriad my views are the place is just one big shite hole, cant wait to get out of the place,  :'(
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Rods2 on 23 January 2016, 17:14:23
Not going to bother reading the link, but based on my own experience, Ive pretty much worked in London all my life, used to love it, now Im afriad my views are the place is just one big shite hole, cant wait to get out of the place,  :'(

Pretty much Ben Judah's views in the article above.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Terbs on 23 January 2016, 17:18:07
I know , you know it, everybody knows it.....except politicians !!!!!!
They told us immigration would be good for the country, maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But they short sightedly thought  that integration meant street houses comprising 'one of us, one of them' was how it would work.
Well, it hasn't.......all towns have segregation, not integration >:(
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: pauls on 23 January 2016, 17:32:18
It is now a know recorded that iam now the minority race where i live.(white British).

Drive thru hayes and its spot the white man. Thats not speaking polish
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Bigron on 23 January 2016, 17:38:00
I was born in East London (during WW2), in the days when the streets were black and white - and the people weren't!

Ron.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: ronnyd on 23 January 2016, 17:58:38
Did Enoch Powell have a point? :-\
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: STEMO on 23 January 2016, 18:21:05
If this realisation had dawned 10 years ago, maybe something could have been done about it. But even then, who would have had the guts to say what needed saying. In a world where it is a crime to speak your mind...to rail against immigration is racist...against homosexuals  being married in church because of your religious beliefs is homophobic.....to say someone is too old to do a proper job is ageist....the list goes on.
But now it's far too late....the lunatics are running the (political) asylum.
If we can take anything from this it is:
1) Never elect that bunch of glorified social workers called the Labour Party ever again, and
2) Hope that Cameron gets no joy at all from the bloodsuckers at the European Disunion so we can leave at the earliest opportunity.


We will find it tough, financially, if we get out, but we may just get a bit of national pride back.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Bigron on 23 January 2016, 18:46:42
HEAR, HEAR!    :y :y :y

Ron.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: ted_one on 23 January 2016, 18:55:46
ABSOLOOOOTELLY !!! :D :y
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Mr Gav on 23 January 2016, 19:05:38
If this realisation had dawned 10 years ago, maybe something could have been done about it. But even then, who would have had the guts to say what needed saying. In a world where it is a crime to speak your mind...to rail against immigration is racist...against homosexuals  being married in church because of your religious beliefs is homophobic.....to say someone is too old to do a proper job is ageist....the list goes on.
But now it's far too late....the lunatics are running the (political) asylum.
If we can take anything from this it is:
1) Never elect that bunch of glorified social workers called the Labour Party ever again, and
2) Hope that Cameron gets no joy at all from the bloodsuckers at the European Disunion so we can leave at the earliest opportunity.


We will find it tough, financially, if we get out, but we may just get a bit of national pride back.

This realisation had dawned 10 years ago, probably longer but no one has had the guts to do anything about it so the circle just keeps on turning, and what the politicians think is good for our country is totally different to what we think is good for our country.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Varche on 23 January 2016, 19:16:40
The first thing is that the economic success that Britain has enjoyed has been helped immensely by immigration. How else do you cope with demand? In theory the immigrants are quite happy doing the low paid jobs that others don't want to do. Whether that keeps wages artificially low is a moot point. Merkel is currently doing the same in Germany to fuel their worker shortfall. History will show that her universal welcome was a bad milestone in Europe.

Where it falls down is in two areas.

1. Documenting who is actually arriving. I am afraid it is high time everyone has an ID card linked to their healthcare status and employment status and bank accounts. Law abiding folk would have nothing to fear. Britain steadfastedly avoids this from some trivial concern over "rights".

2. Trying to integrate newcomers rather than allowing them to impose their beliefs on the indigenous people. Hajibs, Mosques, minarets and so on. Ask yourself would Brits be able to wear short skirts, sun bathe topless, build Protestant churches if they went to live in a Muslim country.?  I don't know how you stop like minded nationalities congregating in certain areas and making them no go for other nationalities. It is human nature. We Brits do the same thing in Spain. Don't learn the language, set up British goods shops and all day English breakfasts, complain that the shops shut for siesta and so on. Our vet hates the Brits that greet her with Hiyahh. She says why can't they use a Spanish greeting.

It is a funny thing  but we use a lot of black pepper and buy it in 500gram bags from the Indian shops on Evington Road in Leicester when we were back in the UK. Well we don't now as the last time a bunch of West Indian women in the shop made Mrs V very uncomfortable. Did the stop talking in a foreign tongue thing and actually questioned her on what you want in here honey.

Think of it as like the fall of the Roman empire. They (we) got too well fed , lazy and complacent and lost it.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: STEMO on 23 January 2016, 19:18:14
If this realisation had dawned 10 years ago, maybe something could have been done about it. But even then, who would have had the guts to say what needed saying. In a world where it is a crime to speak your mind...to rail against immigration is racist...against homosexuals  being married in church because of your religious beliefs is homophobic.....to say someone is too old to do a proper job is ageist....the list goes on.
But now it's far too late....the lunatics are running the (political) asylum.
If we can take anything from this it is:
1) Never elect that bunch of glorified social workers called the Labour Party ever again, and
2) Hope that Cameron gets no joy at all from the bloodsuckers at the European Disunion so we can leave at the earliest opportunity.


We will find it tough, financially, if we get out, but we may just get a bit of national pride back.

This realisation had dawned 10 years ago, probably longer but no one has had the guts to do anything about it so the circle just keeps on turning, and what the politicians think is good for our country is totally different to what we think is good for our country.
Politicians know exactly what is going on, and always have. They are just shit scared of confronting it because the whole dirty mess is mainly of their own making.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: STEMO on 23 January 2016, 19:20:45
NOAH! Are you cracking on with that f***ing ark? We're gonna need it soon.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: STEMO on 24 January 2016, 08:09:07
And to reinforce the labour position, Jeremy Corbyn is over in Calais saying we should let them all in because of the conditions in the camp, ignoring the fact that they could register in France if they chose to.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: 05omegav6 on 24 January 2016, 09:38:09
And to reinforce the labour position, Jeremy Corbyn is over in Calais saying we should let them all in because of the conditions in the camp, ignoring the fact that they could register in France if they chose to.
Blokes a frucking loon >:(

Bulldoze the camps and truck the people home... Give them a hot meal every 500km and $100 for every 10km back into their country of origin that they travel. If you abscond at any point you forfeit any help and are on your own.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: 05omegav6 on 24 January 2016, 10:02:57
To add, I have nothing against genuine immigration, but those people who would qualify for visas can apply through the appropriate channels.

What I object to is the expectation of free money/housing with no intention to contribute. I find the emotional blackmail tactics an abhorrence.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Mr Gav on 24 January 2016, 10:28:01
To add, I have nothing against genuine immigration, but those people who would qualify for visas can apply through the appropriate channels.

What I object to is the expectation of free money/housing with no intention to contribute. I find the emotional blackmail tactics an abhorrence.

I totally agree with you there H  :y
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Terbs on 24 January 2016, 11:09:47
Saw on the news a report that some housing association had painted the doors of their properties red. These properties evidently housed asylum seekers. They have kicked up and want their doors repainted.
My argument is in the word 'seeker' Why should these people take up housing, when people have been on housing lists for years, with families being split up because of lack of housing. They have not yet been given permission to stay here.....and why does it take donkey's years to clear or deny them, by which time they have faded into the wherever

As has been said....these applications should be made prior to entry.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Varche on 24 January 2016, 11:21:01
Paging Rods2. Can he come to the forum please. ;D

So having lit the blue touch paper and gone off for a bit more recovery, what is your take?
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 24 January 2016, 11:32:30
I sat here listening to R2 where they're talking about Calais and Jeremy Corbin's visit.  Apparently they reckon there are around 3000 unaccompanied children living in the 'Jungle'  :o 

Also apparently everyone should tell David Cameron to do something about it.  ::)  Seems to me that nobody is telling Francois Hollande to do something about it.  Last time I looked at the map, Calais is in France and ceased to be England's and latterly Britain's responsibility in 1558.  ::)  France is a wealthy first world nation and I think it's disgusting that they have allowed this situation to develop.  >:(
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Steve B on 24 January 2016, 11:39:31
Went in leicester town on sat... Its Terrible now.. This is all down to our past leaders  >:(
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: STEMO on 24 January 2016, 11:42:49
Don't really know why I'm jumping on the bandwagon, but....
Wifey went for a 10K run yesterday that took in Wakefield city centre and even she, the most politically correct person I know, commented on the amount of Asians and Eastern Europeans hanging around in gangs. She said she felt that people were intimidated.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: RobG on 24 January 2016, 12:02:02
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiA_aims8LKAhVEuhoKHbw7CmsQFgghMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fcomment%2F3643823%2FEnoch-Powells-Rivers-of-Blood-speech.html&usg=AFQjCNFHN811PCgHmTbxtP-5Uhbc90Xp6w
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 January 2016, 12:20:05
Strewth......it's a good job I got shot of my avatar of  ' King Jeremy the great'...... ;D ;D

I would probably get lynched if I kept it.

You are all forced to look at some brainless blonde bimbo now. :D ;D
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 January 2016, 12:28:43
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiA_aims8LKAhVEuhoKHbw7CmsQFgghMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telegraph.co.uk%2Fcomment%2F3643823%2FEnoch-Powells-Rivers-of-Blood-speech.html&usg=AFQjCNFHN811PCgHmTbxtP-5Uhbc90Xp6w


I was only eight years old at the time but I can well remember the shit hitting the fan.

If memory serves Enoch was sacked by Ted Heath.

You'll notice I haven't commented either way. :)
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Kevin Wood on 24 January 2016, 13:03:20
Strewth......it's a good job I got shot of my avatar of  ' King Jeremy the great'...... ;D ;D

I would probably get lynched if I kept it.

You are all forced to look at some brainless blonde bimbo now. :D ;D

Suits me. Is she interested in running for the Labour leadership? Can't get any worse, can it? ;)
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 January 2016, 13:06:05
Strewth......it's a good job I got shot of my avatar of  ' King Jeremy the great'...... ;D ;D

I would probably get lynched if I kept it.

You are all forced to look at some brainless blonde bimbo now. :D ;D

Suits me. Is she interested in running for the Labour leadership? Can't get any worse, can it? ;)





I doubt it very much, Kevin.

I believe EM is best described as 'posh totty'..... :y

Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: 05omegav6 on 24 January 2016, 13:07:25
Strewth......it's a good job I got shot of my avatar of  ' King Jeremy the great'...... ;D ;D

I would probably get lynched if I kept it.

You are all forced to look at some brainless blonde bimbo now. :D ;D

Suits me. Is she interested in running for the Labour leadership? Can't get any worse, can it? ;)
Now there's an Oxymoron if ever there was :D

That said, they've missed a trick... If she were a political leader, then everyone would vote for her...

Look at Sarah Palin... She was nearly president, right upto when someone let her speak ::)
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 January 2016, 13:22:21
Strewth......it's a good job I got shot of my avatar of  ' King Jeremy the great'...... ;D ;D

I would probably get lynched if I kept it.

You are all forced to look at some brainless blonde bimbo now. :D ;D

Suits me. Is she interested in running for the Labour leadership? Can't get any worse, can it? ;)
Now there's an Oxymoron if ever there was :D

That said, they've missed a trick... If she were a political leader, then everyone would vote for her...

Look at Sarah Palin... She was nearly president, right upto when someone let her speak ::)

'Mad dog Palin' and Donald Trump...... at least we know the world will be safe in their capable hands. ::) ::)
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: biggriffin on 25 January 2016, 19:54:57
It is going to take a very very brave person to deal with immigration, as they will be called a Nazi, what ever they do people will say thats the first step towards camps, who-ever is in charge of changing things will also have to be, not far from a dictator, as to many will say NO that's illegal, single minded ness, and when the status quo is returned as the majority want, then step down.

Yes Enoch was correct, but too many in power at the time could only see what had happened 30 years earlier.,people still think the same now.
As a Ps that stemo blokes right :Y There I said it.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Olympia5776 on 25 January 2016, 23:18:19
I watched a wonderful little film from the BFI archive earlier this evening on Sky channel 343 called Terminus . It was a fly on the wall view of 24 hours in the life of Waterloo Station London in 1961.
http://player.bfi.org.uk/film/watch-terminus-1961/
Everything shown was now history from the way people dressed to the way they conducted themselves in all areas of life , it was all very genteel in a lovely way.
Apart from one West Indian gentleman the populace consisted wholly of white indigenous English / British.
50 years is a blink of an eye really and to compare then to now is frankly horrifying and the change being exponential renders any halt to it impossible.
My wife comes from Colindale NW London and we last visited her old Dad last April. I was astounded at the place ( again ) and couldn't wait to get back to the sanctuary of SW Ireland.
Perhaps as the younger generations , who know nothing but multiculturalism , grow older it will all work out but I'm glad that I won't see it in 30 years time , or less ,as I think it will be a dreadful place to live .
Very sad.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Bigron on 26 January 2016, 00:41:11
Thank you for that great trip back down Memory Lane, Olympia; sad to say, I AM old enough to have been on Waterloo Station at around that time!
What contrasts most with today, looking at that film, is the fact that virtually every single person was English, or at least spoke the language, and understood the system, from those using the station to all of the staff.
Particularly in queues nowadays, that is far from the truth and so much time is spent by staff who themselves have limited grasp of English, trying to explain to those who may have one or two words of English and no idea of the way we do things in this country! When the blind lead the blind......

Ron.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Terbs on 26 January 2016, 00:49:58
Going on from Ron's comments about English.....I felt really sorry for my mum, before she died, in trying to understand the care workers in her Nursing home. Don't get me wrong, they looked after mum well, but to be honest I had a job to understand them, and poor old mum did not have a clue what they were talking about !!!! :(
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: ronnyd on 26 January 2016, 09:20:00
Going on from Ron's comments about English.....I felt really sorry for my mum, before she died, in trying to understand the care workers in her Nursing home. Don't get me wrong, they looked after mum well, but to be honest I had a job to understand them, and poor old mum did not have a clue what they were talking about !!!! :(
The trouble is Terbs that if we hadn't got these people to do these jobs we would have a hell of a shortfall of labour in the care/ nursing sector. Are we too affluent for our own good?
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: aaronjb on 26 January 2016, 09:28:00
Are we too affluent for our own good?

No, but everything got too damn expensive for our own good.

How can they afford to live on those wages, then, you say? Well, if you're OK living 12 people to a 4-bed house, you too could live on minimum wage like the folks we've imported to do the jobs we no longer want to do..
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Terbs on 26 January 2016, 10:34:16
Going on from Ron's comments about English.....I felt really sorry for my mum, before she died, in trying to understand the care workers in her Nursing home. Don't get me wrong, they looked after mum well, but to be honest I had a job to understand them, and poor old mum did not have a clue what they were talking about !!!! :(
The trouble is Terbs that if we hadn't got these people to do these jobs we would have a hell of a shortfall of labour in the care/ nursing sector. Are we too affluent for our own good?

I agree wholeheartedly, ronny. I have no problem with the care....it was the communication side. At the end, they phoned me at home, and I felt so embarrased telling the woman, I could not understand her.
I don't know what the answer is.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: aaronjb on 26 January 2016, 10:39:55
I felt so embarrased telling the woman, I could not understand her.

You shouldn't.. I used to hear that all the time at work from customers (when I was first line support in a very multicultural support centre - lots of French, Spanish, German etc etc) and I guarantee you said it in a nicer, less demanding and less pissy way than those people used to! They feel very entitled when they're paying seven figures a year, I guess..
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Terbs on 26 January 2016, 10:40:09
Going back on track....I have no problem with proper controlled immigration, we do need people with certain skills for a lot of jobs.

How govenment can appear on telly, and go on about us needing 250 new houses a month sort of thing, and that is of now. Then in the next breath, they say we are getting 20000 Syrians on top of all the Europeans, Asians, Africans, etc, etc. Our infrastucture is in tatters now.
Its starting to kick off abroad, and  it won't be long before it happens here. :(
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Olympia5776 on 26 January 2016, 21:51:04
Thank you for that great trip back down Memory Lane, Olympia; sad to say, I AM old enough to have been on Waterloo Station at around that time!
What contrasts most with today, looking at that film, is the fact that virtually every single person was English, or at least spoke the language, and understood the system, from those using the station to all of the staff.
Particularly in queues nowadays, that is far from the truth and so much time is spent by staff who themselves have limited grasp of English, trying to explain to those who may have one or two words of English and no idea of the way we do things in this country! When the blind lead the blind......

Ron.

I am too Ron and that little lost boy reminded me of a similar incident when I was that age in Glasgow....
I cant help but think of the millions of people who fought and died in two world wars to preserve that way of life and indeed many of the men featured in the film would have done so, and yet almost as that film was being released the pious ,pontificating politicians started to destroy and discard all that had been held high and worthy  by so many.
A monumental betrayal.
I come back home to the UK twice a year to visit family in London and Scotland and it desperately saddens me to see the steady, continual erosion of values that made Britain a great place ...............then.
Don
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Bigron on 26 January 2016, 23:29:51
Don, we are on the same page!
Why, oh why do people come here because they like what they see of our country and its values, and immediately seek to change it and undermine or festroy those values?
Back then, for us small children, every adult was a figure of respect and authority and would administer a corrective "clip round the ear" if he caught you misbehaving. Try that nowadays and you would find yourself in court!

Ron.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: raywilb on 27 January 2016, 18:07:39
I had a mate that once told me ( a builder ) that he had advertised in a local free ads for work, extensions, patios ect. " Only white british of a hetro-sexual genre need apply. it worked he got calls from all demanding he did their work.  :y
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: STEMO on 27 January 2016, 18:13:55
I had a mate that once told me ( a builder ) that he had advertised in a local free ads for work, extensions, patios ect. " Only white british of a hetro-sexual genre need apply. it worked he got calls from all demanding he did their work.  :y
Must have been a while ago. He'd have been on the six o'clock news now.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Varche on 27 January 2016, 20:27:03
On the six oclock news , they said that they cannot get enough skilled builders in London and companies are turning away work. How can that be?

As an aside, if the war in the Middle East ever finishes there will be some concrete and metal required to rebuild the place.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 27 January 2016, 20:46:19
Just under 15 years ago builders were being ordered off the sites they were working on due to eastern Europeans walking on site and offering to do their jobs for half the money they were being paid. I personally know several builders who this happened to.
These people left the trade, and retrained to do other jobs. It makes them extremely happy to hear contractors crying and whinging about the problem of a skills shortage in the building trade.   ;) :)
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Mr Gav on 27 January 2016, 22:28:40
Just under 15 years ago builders were being ordered off the sites they were working on due to eastern Europeans walking on site and offering to do their jobs for half the money they were being paid. I personally know several builders who this happened to.
These people left the trade, and retrained to do other jobs. It makes them extremely happy to hear contractors crying and whinging about the problem of a skills shortage in the building trade.   ;) :)

Not only that but every recession loses tradespeople as they seek work in other areas and not many come back. I know several bricklayers that haven`t come back into the trade since the last recession.

There are lots of Eastern European dry liners and plasterers that are good but not many good bricklayers  and there is a real shortage of them and there are very few good enough to train the next generation thanks to going from apprentice trained City and Guilds to the NVQ system that doesn`t really have a proper apprentice scheme.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Rods2 on 27 January 2016, 23:52:02
Paging Rods2. Can he come to the forum please. ;D

So having lit the blue touch paper and gone off for a bit more recovery, what is your take?

1. Liebour with their uncontrolled immigration have irreversibly changed the demographics of this country and not for the better.

2. While we are in the EU we won't have control of our own borders or who comes here.

3. Our economic success and high wages compared to most countries in the world, especially Europe, means that the UK will continue to attract migration like moths round a lamp, but the majority here will continue to suffer wage deflation as each wave of immigrants will out bid in a dutch auction the skilled and semi-skilled working class for their work and jobs.

4. Our Ponzi benefits system means that the politicians will continue to allow high levels of immigration. Conservatives will tend to vet for the high value skilled where there are job vacancies, Liebour will take anybody, the lower the skills the better as they add to their voting pool.

5. Where contraception has been too successful and while the British are only having about 1.3 children per-couple, they will essentially along with other Christians be the minority in the UK by 2030-40.

6. Sometime between 2040 and 2060 the Muslim population will be the UK's biggest group and will elect their first government, only law will be Sharia, women must wear burkas, alcohol banned, music banned, pork banned, TV's will be for religious programs and propaganda (at which point the white British will notice as no equivalent of X Factor or Strictly on a Saturday), all religions apart from Islam banned, any non-Muslims, must convert, or become slaves and will be over time ethnically cleansed.

7. By 2070 we will be a secular state run by an Islamic dictatorship.

8. Welcome to the United Kingdom of Iran.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Steve B on 28 January 2016, 00:13:43
Paging Rods2. Can he come to the forum please. ;D

So having lit the blue touch paper and gone off for a bit more recovery, what is your take?

1. Liebour with their uncontrolled immigration have irreversibly changed the demographics of this country and not for the better.

2. While we are in the EU we won't have control of our own borders or who comes here.

3. Our economic success and high wages compared to most countries in the world, especially Europe, means that the UK will continue to attract migration like moths round a lamp, but the majority here will continue to suffer wage deflation as each wave of immigrants will out bid in a dutch auction the skilled and semi-skilled working class for their work and jobs.

4. Our Ponzi benefits system means that the politicians will continue to allow high levels of immigration. Conservatives will tend to vet for the high value skilled where there are job vacancies, Liebour will take anybody, the lower the skills the better as they add to their voting pool.

5. Where contraception has been too successful and while the British are only having about 1.3 children per-couple, they will essentially along with other Christians be the minority in the UK by 2030-40.

6. Sometime between 2040 and 2060 the Muslim population will be the UK's biggest group and will elect their first government, only law will be Sharia, women must wear burkas, alcohol banned, music banned, pork banned, TV's will be for religious programs and propaganda (at which point the white British will notice as no equivalent of X Factor or Strictly on a Saturday), all religions apart from Islam banned, any non-Muslims, must convert, or become slaves and will be over time ethnically cleansed.

7. By 2070 we will be a secular state run by an Islamic dictatorship.

8. Welcome to the United Kingdom of Iran.
Thats over 50 years away.. At the rate things are going ..You can bring that date down..
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: aaronjb on 28 January 2016, 10:15:43
Nobody here will be alive in 50 years anyway so.. no use worrying about it :y
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: tigers_gonads on 28 January 2016, 10:21:25
Nobody here will be alive in 50 years anyway so.. no use worrying about it :y


Not got kids or grand kids yet then  ;)
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: aaronjb on 28 January 2016, 15:27:13
Nobody here will be alive in 50 years anyway so.. no use worrying about it :y


Not got kids or grand kids yet then  ;)

Nope, and no intention of having any!
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: tigers_gonads on 28 January 2016, 15:57:52
Nobody here will be alive in 50 years anyway so.. no use worrying about it :y


Not got kids or grand kids yet then  ;)

Nope, and no intention of having any!



I used to say that when I was younger ::)

In October, Mini Me is 21  :o
I cracked 50 this week and the way this country is going scares the living shit out of me .............. :( :( :(
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: aaronjb on 28 January 2016, 16:04:32
People said I'd change my mind once I was 30..

I'm 37 now and my opinion hasn't changed ;)
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: STEMO on 28 January 2016, 16:06:17
People said I'd change my mind once I was 30..

I'm 37 now and my opinion hasn't changed ;)
Getting to the point where you no longer have a choice then?  ;D
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: tigers_gonads on 28 January 2016, 16:08:02
People said I'd change my mind once I was 30..

I'm 37 now and my opinion hasn't changed ;)




I just look 37  :P  :D :D

I friggin wish   ;D ;D
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: tigers_gonads on 28 January 2016, 16:09:14
People said I'd change my mind once I was 30..

I'm 37 now and my opinion hasn't changed ;)
Getting to the point where you no longer have a choice then?  ;D



Your such a bitch  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: EMD on 28 January 2016, 16:29:52
Nobody here will be alive in 50 years anyway so.. no use worrying about it :y


Not got kids or grand kids yet then  ;)

Nope, and no intention of having any!



I used to say that when I was younger ::)

In October, Mini Me is 21  :o
I cracked 50 this week and the way this country is going scares the living shit out of me .............. :( :( :(

I beat you by a whole year  ;D Who said life begins at 50 , begin getting more ailments more like  :-[ ::)
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Nick W on 28 January 2016, 17:15:17
People said I'd change my mind once I was 30..

I'm 37 now and my opinion hasn't changed ;)


They told me that too. I'm 46 this year, and my opinion is reinforced almost every time I meet a child person ;D
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Olympia5776 on 28 January 2016, 18:04:27
Paging Rods2. Can he come to the forum please. ;D

So having lit the blue touch paper and gone off for a bit more recovery, what is your take?

1. Liebour with their uncontrolled immigration have irreversibly changed the demographics of this country and not for the better.

2. While we are in the EU we won't have control of our own borders or who comes here.

3. Our economic success and high wages compared to most countries in the world, especially Europe, means that the UK will continue to attract migration like moths round a lamp, but the majority here will continue to suffer wage deflation as each wave of immigrants will out bid in a dutch auction the skilled and semi-skilled working class for their work and jobs.

4. Our Ponzi benefits system means that the politicians will continue to allow high levels of immigration. Conservatives will tend to vet for the high value skilled where there are job vacancies, Liebour will take anybody, the lower the skills the better as they add to their voting pool.

5. Where contraception has been too successful and while the British are only having about 1.3 children per-couple, they will essentially along with other Christians be the minority in the UK by 2030-40.

6. Sometime between 2040 and 2060 the Muslim population will be the UK's biggest group and will elect their first government, only law will be Sharia, women must wear burkas, alcohol banned, music banned, pork banned, TV's will be for religious programs and propaganda (at which point the white British will notice as no equivalent of X Factor or Strictly on a Saturday), all religions apart from Islam banned, any non-Muslims, must convert, or become slaves and will be over time ethnically cleansed.

7. By 2070 we will be a secular state run by an Islamic dictatorship.

8. Welcome to the United Kingdom of Iran.

I hate to be another harbinger of doom but I'd essentially agree with that .
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Nick W on 28 January 2016, 18:22:40
Is anyone really stupid enough to think that existing British Muslims are a group religiously/politically/culturally/economically coherent enough to elect an effective government? It's no more likely than Corbyn and Cameron's supporters joining arms and skipping down the lane into the sunset.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: STEMO on 28 January 2016, 18:26:52
Is anyone really stupid enough to think that existing British Muslims are a group religiously/politically/culturally/economically coherent enough to elect an effective government? It's no more likely than Corbyn and Cameron's supporters joining arms and skipping down the lane into the sunset.
Don't spoil it for them, Nick.
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: Olympia5776 on 28 January 2016, 20:15:31
Is anyone really stupid enough to think that existing British Muslims are a group religiously/politically/culturally/economically coherent enough to elect an effective government? It's no more likely than Corbyn and Cameron's supporters joining arms and skipping down the lane into the sunset.

Oh I do hope you are around 25 to 30 years old  ;D
Title: Re: The changing face of Britain: This is London
Post by: STEMO on 28 January 2016, 20:22:45
Is anyone really stupid enough to think that existing British Muslims are a group religiously/politically/culturally/economically coherent enough to elect an effective government? It's no more likely than Corbyn and Cameron's supporters joining arms and skipping down the lane into the sunset.
Or that the rest of us are stupid enough to stand by and let it happen? The rise in immigration has, so far, irked and sometimes frightened us. If it gets worse, and we start becoming angry, that will lead to the rise of various right wing political parties wanting our vote. They'll probably make Farage look tolerant.
A distasteful scenario, but maybe necessary. And if the publicity-seeking lentil munchers think that protesting that we're British and have always welcomed asylum seekers will sway ordinary people, they'll get a fickin huge shock when the votes are counted. :)