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Title: Prediction
Post by: Terbs on 10 July 2025, 18:51:33
I predict that 'One in, one out' will not make the slightest difference to the boats/migrants crossing the channel

What planet are Starmer and Macron living on !!!!! >:( >:(
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: countrywoman on 10 July 2025, 19:14:31
The same one most politicians do, cloud cuckoo land!
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Varche on 10 July 2025, 20:32:21
I think you are right Terbs. Short term it will look like a win and then lapse back to the norm.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 10 July 2025, 21:37:20
I predict that 'One in, one out' will not make the slightest difference to the boats/migrants crossing the channel

What planet are Starmer and Macron living on !!!!! >:( >:(

Macron knows what he is doing.  Starmer is just weak and foolish.  :-X
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Varche on 10 July 2025, 21:56:14
So will it be 50 migrants returned, France sends 50 more. The returned migrants try again. Uk sends 50 back and has to accept a new 50 ?  Biometric cards . Fingerprints and photo of everyone including all European residents.

If that is the case Macron must be laughing!
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Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 10 July 2025, 21:57:34
Precisely.  :y
Macron has run rings around the waste of space, skin & fresh air we currently have as our PM. Just as everyone else does.
Should have sent the little shit back to France in a dinghy, accompanied by 50 or so of the "people" he has allowed to come here.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 July 2025, 01:14:17
" Like the old Danish king of England, Starmer sits and watches as the waves of people wash irresistibly to our shores, and in his self-imposed impotence he is making himself look like a complete and utter Canute. "  Boris Johnson  ;D

Boris's article in the Mail (https://archive.ph/kHGNM#selection-1713.0-1713.211)
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Varche on 12 July 2025, 07:48:28
Lol. That is almost Shakespearean.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 12 July 2025, 12:58:50
I do not usual make political comment on here now, but I have noted all of your sentiments which I have great sympathy for.  But I would ask one question..................

"So, as a SOLUTION that recognises we are a democracy, respecter of human rights, are not a Nazi, Russian or Chinese type state, and do not kill men, women and children deliberately, like slashing the boats out in the English Channel and watching them drown, if you were legally in charge of the UK, and legally responsible for the actions of our Government, what would YOU do?   No, what really would you do as an answer to, in fact, a worldwide issue to stop illegal immigration? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 July 2025, 13:15:11
The money these people are paying to get here would buy a first class ticket on any flag carrying airline.

Their actions are deliberately illegal and should be treated as such.Their numbers may well include women and children, but innocent they are not. There may be a case for picking up the children, housing and educating them then send them back as the seeds of new generations for the countries they left, but the adults know better.

Nothing that has been done to date has had any level of deterrence. Apparently the crossing itself isn't dangerous enough to deter people.

The people supplying the boats on the beaches should be shot on sight. The people trading in the boats should be held to account.

Sinking the boats in shallow water on the French side, detaining survivors on a barge mid channel might help focus the mind without being too barbaric, but a robust problem requires a robust approach. Human rights shouldn't apply to international criminals.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Rangie on 12 July 2025, 14:14:02
If they really wanted to "smash" the gangs they could easily,the amount of intelligence they must have obtained by now would make it a simple task, but the amount of cash the French are obtaining from the UK makes it simply not worth their while bothering, & Starmer & his cronies think that these parasites  are good for us when they integrate.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Terbs on 12 July 2025, 16:23:17
IMO....the only deterrent is, that, if you know that when you land, you are going to be deported straightway, ie: off the boat and on to a plane, to be taken miles away to some predetermined country, example Rwanda, where your asylum request will be listened to, and if successful, you come in legally.
It was set up, but Starmers lot went against it, even though it eventually cleared the courts. Leave the ECHR to start with, to stop these money grabbing lawyers appealing this and that.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 12 July 2025, 17:24:11
Not unreasonable  ;)

Outlawing Uber Eats/Just Eat/Deliveroo would go someway to cutting off income streams too.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 12 July 2025, 18:25:05
Not unreasonable  ;)

Outlawing Uber Eats/Just Eat/Deliveroo would go someway to cutting off income streams too.

People would riot!  :o  ;D
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: TheBoy on 13 July 2025, 11:14:10
I do not usual make political comment on here now, but I have noted all of your sentiments which I have great sympathy for.  But I would ask one question..................

"So, as a SOLUTION that recognises we are a democracy, respecter of human rights, are not a Nazi, Russian or Chinese type state, and do not kill men, women and children deliberately, like slashing the boats out in the English Channel and watching them drown, if you were legally in charge of the UK, and legally responsible for the actions of our Government, what would YOU do?   No, what really would you do as an answer to, in fact, a worldwide issue to stop illegal immigration? ??? ??? ???
What I always say should happen.  And don't just stop at the illegal immigrants either, there are an awful lot of Brits that need adding to the list.  The country is stupidly overpopulated, and we're losing our ability to feed our country ourselves as each day passes, with ever more agricultural land repurposed to house the growing population.

But if I'm not allowed to cull people, I'd remove all benefits that makes the UK so attractive.  Lets be frank, no matter how left some people's views may be, even the Corbynites must realise there simply aren't enough rich individuals or organisations to cover the welfare spending, and we can't just keep borrowing forever.  The benefits system should, at most, cover short term those that unexpectedly fall on hard times, not be a career choice.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 July 2025, 13:01:51
Seconded.

The trouble is no one in charge actually has the gumption to do what's required.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Rangie on 13 July 2025, 15:53:49
I do not usual make political comment on here now, but I have noted all of your sentiments which I have great sympathy for.  But I would ask one question..................

"So, as a SOLUTION that recognises we are a democracy, respecter of human rights, are not a Nazi, Russian or Chinese type state, and do not kill men, women and children deliberately, like slashing the boats out in the English Channel and watching them drown, if you were legally in charge of the UK, and legally responsible for the actions of our Government, what would YOU do?   No, what really would you do as an answer to, in fact, a worldwide issue to stop illegal immigration? ??? ??? ???
What I always say should happen.  And don't just stop at the illegal immigrants either, there are an awful lot of Brits that need adding to the list.  The country is stupidly overpopulated, and we're losing our ability to feed our country ourselves as each day passes, with ever more agricultural land repurposed to house the growing population.

But if I'm not allowed to cull people, I'd remove all benefits that makes the UK so attractive.  Lets be frank, no matter how left some people's views may be, even the Corbynites must realise there simply aren't enough rich individuals or organisations to cover the welfare spending, and we can't just keep borrowing forever.  The benefits system should, at most, cover short term those that unexpectedly fall on hard times, not be a career choice.
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Totally agree 100 percent, if only there was someone who had the balls to do this it would certainly help putting the UK back on track but it won't happen in my lifetime.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 July 2025, 17:37:45
From an article in today's Telegraph by Daniel Hannan.

Consider, one more time, some of the statistics.

Around 3,000 people a day are signed off as too sick to work. The total number of claimants is forecast by the government to go from 3.3 million to 4.1 million by the end of this parliament.

According to the NHS Confederation, in 2021-22, 63,392 people went straight from university onto long-term sickness benefits.

The fastest rise is among 25- to 34-year-olds, an incredible increase of 69 per cent in five years. (Incredible in every sense: such a sudden and cataclysmic explosion in disability would surely be visible on the streets.)

In Birmingham, one in four working-age adults is inactive. One. In. Four. Even at the height of the Great Depression, the proportion in our second city never rose so high. Then, mass worklessness was treated as the most important challenge facing the nation; now, we barely notice.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/12/reform-welfare-or-failed-state-britain-only-choice/
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 13 July 2025, 18:41:34
From an article in today's Telegraph by Daniel Hannan.

Consider, one more time, some of the statistics.

Around 3,000 people a day are signed off as too sick to work. The total number of claimants is forecast by the government to go from 3.3 million to 4.1 million by the end of this parliament.

According to the NHS Confederation, in 2021-22, 63,392 people went straight from university onto long-term sickness benefits.

The fastest rise is among 25- to 34-year-olds, an incredible increase of 69 per cent in five years. (Incredible in every sense: such a sudden and cataclysmic explosion in disability would surely be visible on the streets.)

In Birmingham, one in four working-age adults is inactive. One. In. Four. Even at the height of the Great Depression, the proportion in our second city never rose so high. Then, mass worklessness was treated as the most important challenge facing the nation; now, we barely notice.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/12/reform-welfare-or-failed-state-britain-only-choice/

Ah, Sir Tigger, you have now got to the hub of the issue :y :y

It is not just the small boat issue, but a far, far bigger challenge;  the issue of what “our own” people are up to. Not a lot many would argue!.  Just look at the NHS.  It is run by very good people originally from abroad.  When I was in hospital all staff were from across the planet!  The doctors, nurses, porters, down to the cleaners.

Then I was in my dentists the other day, where all the medical staff were from Asia and other foreign lands.  Only the receptionists were orginally from Britain!

Then, of course, the regular one is the nail bars and car wash outlets; all run by those from all over the World.

Then there is the Amazon delivery staff, who are all of a “foreign” background, almost without exception!

So where are our youngsters?  Obviously many are actively in work, but as the figures suggest so many are just on their backsides, making excuses why they are not fit to work and taking welfare payments.  50 to 60 years ago that was not the case as we left school knowing we had to work. We had the work ethic drummed into us by our parents.  What the fk is happening now?!!

No, it is not the boat people we should be worrying about, but our own!!

Now I could get very politically right wing, but I will leave that to others ;D ;)

Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 13 July 2025, 19:49:07
Boat people - tow the boats back to France and drop them off.
If the French want a fight over it, well they need to remember history.

Young Brits who think the country owes them a living without them having to get out of bed - starve them into a job.
If they claim to be disabled. Tell them Stephen Hawking was the most disabled person you could ever see, and he worked all his life.
99% of people are capable of doing something.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Varche on 13 July 2025, 20:54:51
Boat people - tow the boats back to France and drop them off.
If the French want a fight over it, well they need to remember history.

Young Brits who think the country owes them a living without them having to get out of bed - starve them into a job.
If they claim to be disabled. Tell them Stephen Hawking was the most disabled person you could ever see, and he worked all his life.
99% of people are capable of doing something.

Gets my vote. The French are just operating a taxi service. They should be questioning the prospective ( now punctured) boat people and bussing them back to the EU country they arrived in.for asylum processing. Imagine the Frogs if boat people arrived in the UK and gangs smuggled them to France. I wonder what their response would be.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 13 July 2025, 21:31:55
Boat people - tow the boats back to France and drop them off.
If the French want a fight over it, well they need to remember history.

Young Brits who think the country owes them a living without them having to get out of bed - starve them into a job.
If they claim to be disabled. Tell them Stephen Hawking was the most disabled person you could ever see, and he worked all his life.
99% of people are capable of doing something.

Gets my vote. The French are just operating a taxi service. They should be questioning the prospective ( now punctured) boat people and bussing them back to the EU country they arrived in.for asylum processing. Imagine the Frogs if boat people arrived in the UK and gangs smuggled them to France. I wonder what their response would be.

It would certainly be a much more robust response than our useless spineless political and governing classes can muster.  ::)

At the very least they would demand that Britain take back all illegal immigrants that arrived by dinghy from England, and I've little doubt that the UK Govt would agree to do it without so much as a whimper.  :-X

I've seen the occasional report of the odd migrant trying to get back to France when they find life in Britain is not for them, only to be caught and stopped by the British authorities.  ::)  I think one stole a canoe and tried to paddle back to France.  :)
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 13 July 2025, 23:58:03
Lizzie, you miss the point. We're paying for both the workshy AND the boat people.

We can't support our workshy let alone everyone else.

And this is actually bourne out by the figures Steve mentioned...

3,000 people a day plus 3,000 people a day arriving expecting everything on a plate actually equates to 6,000 people a day. Stopping the boats halves the problem. Instantly.

It's not about being racist... If people want to come here legally, contribute fully to society both in work and taxes then that's to be celebrated and welcomed.

The trouble is, the people arriving by boat are largely scavengers and vermin. Much like the workshy.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 14 July 2025, 11:39:26
It would appear the the French police have started splashing boats as they're launched.

Finally some robust action.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 14 July 2025, 13:41:54
It would appear the the French police have started splashing boats as they're launched.

Finally some robust action.

Splashing boats?  That'll do the trick!  ;D
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 14 July 2025, 15:14:49
I suspect its a publicity stunt that wont last.
We shall see.

If the NHS ( for example) needs people from abroad then of course they should be allowed to come, and should be allowed to work on a rolling work visa.
Then if at some point their services are no longer needed then they should return to where they came from.
Thats how most of the rest of the world do it.
As for car washes, nail bars and suchlike.
Most of them either employ illegal immigrants on the black market, or actually use them as slave labour.
Then theres the countless "Turkish" barbers which have spread across the country.
Very few customers in most of them, but it doesnt matter because they are simply fronts for money laundering for organised crime groups, mainly dealing in class A drugs.
These problems and the problems of mass worklessness all stem from the same thing.
Naive left wing thinking, which unfortunately has infested the corridors of power throughout the country, (and the wider Western world) and is in the process of destroying it.
Im afraid I believe we have past the point of no return.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Varche on 14 July 2025, 16:27:05
Class A drugs. One of the huge problems here is the ingress of drugs. Either by sheer volume so the odd million pounds worth seized at container ports isn’t more than an inconvenience to a drug lord OR by ever more sophisticated deliveries eg single use two man 1 tonne of cocaine across the Atlantic. 60,000 euros was the going rate for police chief to Not have police patrolling a part of the river at Seville to make drop off easier…..
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Raeturbo on 14 July 2025, 22:50:26
Simple fact is the boat people who come here illegally are criminals, they are trying to kill each other even on the trip over here, heaven help us when they expand their foothold further we will be afraid to go out the door unarmed, (well some will) they have no right to be here and all our resources from picking them up halfway across to actually taking care of them and housing them (hotels etc) far far better than the veterans and others that have and are putting their lives on the line for this country for a pittance. Just to add when it Finally goes tits up who the hell do you think they’re going to fight for, they certainly will not be on the frontline defending our country.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Raeturbo on 14 July 2025, 23:07:37
Just to add…
https://apple.news/AgSRWxhUQQLmcQkUsfmH2fA
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Rangie on 15 July 2025, 10:04:39
Simple fact is the boat people who come here illegally are criminals, they are trying to kill each other even on the trip over here, heaven help us when they expand their foothold further we will be afraid to go out the door unarmed, (well some will) they have no right to be here and all our resources from picking them up halfway across to actually taking care of them and housing them (hotels etc) far far better than the veterans and others that have and are putting their lives on the line for this country for a pittance. Just to add when it Finally goes tits up who the hell do you think they’re going to fight for, they certainly will not be on the frontline defending our country.
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They are total scum all of them, I was walking through Spalding a few days ago and one who was obviously a parasite was staring at my watch ( worth about £3000) just try it pal I thought to myself and you will need serious hospital treatment.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Varche on 15 July 2025, 15:02:14
Wait till you see Sky News reporting on 7000 Afghans to be relocated to Uk due to a MOD data breach . It is going to cost an eye watering amount. Could be 7 bn ( million pounds each?)
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 15 July 2025, 15:07:39
To purport that migrants are all grafters who keep the country afloat while its just the brits who have been born and grown up with Gordon Browns client state would be a mistake.
Latest figures show that 1.26 million migrants are claiming Universal credit !

https://order-order.com/2025/07/15/more-than-one-million-migrants-claiming-benefits/
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Raeturbo on 15 July 2025, 22:01:18
Lizzie has a good kind heart but I think her sympathies are misplaced on this occasion. (No offence meant).
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 16 July 2025, 20:13:20
To purport that migrants are all grafters who keep the country afloat while its just the brits who have been born and grown up with Gordon Browns client state would be a mistake.
Latest figures show that 1.26 million migrants are claiming Universal credit !

https://order-order.com/2025/07/15/more-than-one-million-migrants-claiming-benefits/
You may have misread grifters...
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 17 July 2025, 11:07:17
The Govt has just released crime figures according to nationality, for the first time I believe.
An Afghan migrant is 22 times more likely to commit sexual offences than a UK born person.
If you add up the stats for those from various African countries, the figures are far worse than the Afghans.

Meanwhile they have just announced that 16 and 17 year olds will be allowed to vote in the next general election.
Cynical beyond belief. Brainwash them into left wing nonsense at school, promise them the moon on a stick if they vote Labour, and you have their votes until the reality of life in the adult world kicks in.
They know they cant con enough adults to vote for them next time, so they will con the kids and hope it will get them over the line.
The yanks have a saying "no taxation without representation. I think that should also work the other way around too.
If you havent paid income tax in the three years preceding the election, you shouldnt have the right to vote.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 17 July 2025, 11:24:21
If 16 year olds are considered old enough to vote, then they should just lower the age of majority to 16 and let them enjoy the full rights and responsibilities of adulthood as well.  ::)
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Terbs on 17 July 2025, 11:26:59
Totally agree, Sir Tigger
Lets be honest 16 years olds nowadays aren't capable of thinking for themselves. Nowhere near maturity
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 17 July 2025, 11:54:48
Totally agree, Sir Tigger
Lets be honest 21 years olds nowadays aren't capable of thinking for themselves. Nowhere near maturity
Fixed.

There are obviously exceptions, but they're few and far between.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 17 July 2025, 20:51:16
Imo, people should only be allowed to vote if they have paid tax and or N.I. for (at least) three years running up to an election.
The exception would be pensioners who have paid their way re tax & N.I during their working lives.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: LC0112G on 17 July 2025, 21:29:25
Imo, people should only be allowed to vote if they have paid tax and or N.I. for (at least) three years running up to an election.
The exception would be pensioners who have paid their way re tax & N.I during their working lives.

Except most pensioners haven't - not even close to paying their way. Sure they've paid what they were asked to pay, but no way did it come close to what they are now costing.

Given the mess that 18+ voters have got the country into since the war, I've no problem with allowing toddlers to vote - at least they've got an equal chance of ticking a sensible box.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 17 July 2025, 22:01:07
Ok, if you want to be uber pedantic - paid what they were required to from their wages during their long working lives.
Imo, voters havent really had a mainstream party worth voting for for well over thirty years.
Its been a matter of holding your nose and voting for what you hope will be the least worst option.
Not really the fault of voters, but the fault of the bunch of liars who stand for and get elected to Parliament.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: LC0112G on 17 July 2025, 22:43:13
It's not "uber pedantic" to point out that a certain generation believed the promises of various govt's/parties that by paying thruppence ha'penny per week into a govt run fund it would somehow pay for a comfortable retirement pension, plus all their medical needs as they age.

And now those generations take up close to 30% of all current govt spending (Pensions 11.3%, NHS 18%) and that's not including "healthcare" which is 43% of govt spending, yet they now pay virtually nothing 'into' the system - not that they ever paid anything meaningful into the system anyway.

It's Ok though, because the young'uns will pay, even if they can't vote.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Varche on 18 July 2025, 08:18:15
Maybe it all went wrong about the 70/80’s.

The idea of pensions and nhs post war was fairly sound particularly socially. North Sea oil/gas surely belonged to the country and should have been used for pensions and health.  Sadly it wasn’t. National debt is at ludicrous levels.

My guess on past form , is the new generation of voters will vote for bigger pensions for themselves. There will be a forum somewhere in 50 years time saying “ where did it all go wrong” unless by then Europe is just part of a giant gulag.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Rangie on 18 July 2025, 08:30:37
It's not "uber pedantic" to point out that a certain generation believed the promises of various govt's/parties that by paying thruppence ha'penny per week into a govt run fund it would somehow pay for a comfortable retirement pension, plus all their medical needs as they age.

And now those generations take up close to 30% of all current govt spending (Pensions 11.3%, NHS 18%) and that's not including "healthcare" which is 43% of govt spending, yet they now pay virtually nothing 'into' the system - not that they ever paid anything meaningful into the system anyway.

It's Ok though, because the young'uns will pay, even if they can't vote.
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I put my life on the line for this country & my pensions don't make up for what I sacrificed over the years, most " young uns" as you put it are barely capable of wiping their arses let alone doing a days work & paying tax, many can't even string a sentence together as for preparing for a job interview .
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Rangie on 18 July 2025, 08:48:48
It's not "uber pedantic" to point out that a certain generation believed the promises of various govt's/parties that by paying thruppence ha'penny per week into a govt run fund it would somehow pay for a comfortable retirement pension, plus all their medical needs as they age.

And now those generations take up close to 30% of all current govt spending (Pensions 11.3%, NHS 18%) and that's not including "healthcare" which is 43% of govt spending, yet they now pay virtually nothing 'into' the system - not that they ever paid anything meaningful into the system anyway.

It's Ok though, because the young'uns will pay, even if they can't vote.
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I put my life on the line for this country & my pensions don't make up for what I sacrificed over the years, most " young uns" as you put it are barely capable of wiping their arses let alone doing a days work & paying tax, many can't even string a sentence together as for preparing for a job interview , I've sat on panels for HMPS it's like a comedy show the way some turn up .
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 18 July 2025, 13:17:25
Anyway, back to the migration issue.
There is a lot of coverage on the news today about "anti immigration" protests in Epping, with a loop of footage of some brain dead thugs kicking a Police van.
The real story is, that as soon as thee men arrive in Epping, they are out on the local streets, sexually assaulting girls on their way home from school.
The local parents are livid about the situation and are protesting, but of course you will always get brainless morons join in and the MSM will use that to portray anyone who isnt fully on board with the mass immigration agenda as being the same kind of brainless morons.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vdeekq031o
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 July 2025, 13:21:23
Anyway, back to the migration issue.
There is a lot of coverage on the news today about "anti immigration" protests in Epping, with a loop of footage of some brain dead thugs kicking a Police van.
The real story is, that as soon as thee men arrive in Epping, they are out on the local streets, sexually assaulting girls on their way home from school.
The local parents are livid about the situation and are protesting, but of course you will always get brainless morons join in and the MSM will use that to portray anyone who isnt fully on board with the mass immigration agenda as being the same kind of brainless morons.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vdeekq031o

Diversity is our strength.......repeat the mantra until 2+2 can also equal 5. >:D
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 18 July 2025, 14:11:47
If you read the article, the 38 year old Ethiopian who has been assaulting schoolgirls arrived in the UK on the 29th of June.
He was reported for the offences eight days later.
The local authorities objected to the hotel being used to house these people but were over ruled, presumably by the Home Office.
The BBC report says the man lives in High road Epping.
The Bell Hotel which houses the illegal migrants is in High Road Epping. Which is where the protests have been taking place.
They couldnt bring themselves to say thats where he came from though.
What has become of this country ?  ;(
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Rangie on 18 July 2025, 14:17:49
If you read the article, the 38 year old Ethiopian who has been assaulting schoolgirls arrived in the UK on the 29th of June.
He was reported for the offences eight days later.
The local authorities objected to the hotel being used to house these people but were over ruled, presumably by the Home Office.
The BBC report says the man lives in High road Epping.
The Bell Hotel which houses the illegal migrants is in High Road Epping. Which is where the protests have been taking place.
They couldnt bring themselves to say thats where he came from though.
What has become of this country ?  ;(


The government is just turning a blind eye to it all, they've let scum walk straight in put cash in their pockets + somewhere to live all free of charge, now the filthy  scum are turning their attention to schoolgirls, any wonder the parents are unhappy , it makes my blood boil what to witness has happened to the UK.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 18 July 2025, 14:52:37
If you read the article, the 38 year old Ethiopian who has been assaulting schoolgirls arrived in the UK on the 29th of June.
He was reported for the offences eight days later.
The local authorities objected to the hotel being used to house these people but were over ruled, presumably by the Home Office.
The BBC report says the man lives in High road Epping.
The Bell Hotel which houses the illegal migrants is in High Road Epping. Which is where the protests have been taking place.
They couldnt bring themselves to say thats where he came from though.

What has become of this country ?  ;(

Keir prefers you to use the word 'irregular' rather than 'illegal' :)

.....it's more welcoming. ::)
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 July 2025, 18:59:29
If you read the article, the 38 year old Ethiopian who has been assaulting schoolgirls arrived in the UK on the 29th of June.
He was reported for the offences eight days later.
The local authorities objected to the hotel being used to house these people but were over ruled, presumably by the Home Office.
The BBC report says the man lives in High road Epping.
The Bell Hotel which houses the illegal migrants is in High Road Epping. Which is where the protests have been taking place.
They couldnt bring themselves to say thats where he came from though.
What has become of this country ?  ;(

I've seen a few vids of that protest or ongoing protests.  :-\

Interesting how the Stand Up To Racism crowd seem to suddenly appear at these kind of protests armed with their professionally printed placards.  ::)

They seem well organised, well funded and have good intelligence as to where to pop up.  Who is behind them I wonder?  ???
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 18 July 2025, 19:03:17
Much of the funding for this kind of thing right across the Western world can be traced back to Soros.
You have to wonder what exactly his agenda is.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 July 2025, 19:15:52
Much of the funding for this kind of thing right across the Western world can be traced back to Soros.
You have to wonder what exactly his agenda is.
Motivated by boredom probably.

Of course if thousands of us turned up in the various shit holes these people breed in, we'd all be murdered in our sleep.

As a rule, what's good for the goose...
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Raeturbo on 18 July 2025, 19:25:23
It's not "uber pedantic" to point out that a certain generation believed the promises of various govt's/parties that by paying thruppence ha'penny per week into a govt run fund it would somehow pay for a comfortable retirement pension, plus all their medical needs as they age.

And now those generations take up close to 30% of all current govt spending (Pensions 11.3%, NHS 18%) and that's not including "healthcare" which is 43% of govt spending, yet they now pay virtually nothing 'into' the system - not that they ever paid anything meaningful into the system anyway.

It's Ok though, because the young'uns will pay, even if they can't vote.
.

I put my life on the line for this country & my pensions don't make up for what I sacrificed over the years, most " young uns" as you put it are barely capable of wiping their arses let alone doing a days work & paying tax, many can't even string a sentence together as for preparing for a job interview , I've sat on panels for HMPS it's like a comedy show the way some turn up .
                Excellent post and very true. Us pensioners were far too busy working our nuts off in bad conditions to have time to question how much was being deducted from our hard earned wage packet. Maybe the wealth in this country has been given away to people that weren’t even born here and have never contributed anything to this place.  Stop the crazy bonuses the waste, and the boats for a start before condemning good honest old folk who have worked their 'dangle berries' off for fifty plus years. Let the pensioners alone, pick on the immigrants/scroungers, etc, you know the type.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Raeturbo on 18 July 2025, 19:29:01
This country will awaken soon and enough will be enough, they will need our armed forces to stop what’s inevitably coming in my opinion, but of course we only have a handful
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 18 July 2025, 20:06:44
Im afraid I dont think that will happen Rae.
Its all gone too far to have any chance of putting things right.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: STEMO on 18 July 2025, 20:51:58
I haven't commented on this, pointless. But in the last couple of weeks I have moved on from the idea of Farage, what we need is a military junta.
As for the boats, anyone can fly a drone  :-X
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 18 July 2025, 20:57:31
I agree, although in reality, Farage & co. are currently our only hope.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Rangie on 18 July 2025, 21:07:21
This country will awaken soon and enough will be enough, they will need our armed forces to stop what’s inevitably coming in my opinion, but of course we only have a handful
.

I think you're just about spot on, a lot of folk are completely fed up with all this nonsense about integration, these people are savages they have no morals & have no intention of earning an honest living why should everyone who abides by the rules be forced to pay for this bunch of parasites descending illegally to the UK. It's nothing to do with racism simply if you put nothing you're not entitled to take anything out. So simply load them up & ship them back forcibly no more softly softly nonsense.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: STEMO on 18 July 2025, 21:18:43
Oh, and by the way, pay no attention to the numbers in the news about the number of Afganis that were allowed in.

From the Telegraph: In March last year, the Government set up an emergency scheme, called the Afghanistan Response Route, to airlift people named in the data breach to the UK.
Whitehall sources have told The Telegraph that one person who came to the UK was allowed to bring 22 family members, while others were in the “high teens”.
Defence ministers had wanted to restrict arrivals to married couples and their children, but UK courts repeatedly expanded the eligibility criteria, citing the European Convention on Human Rights.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Raeturbo on 18 July 2025, 22:17:04
This country will awaken soon and enough will be enough, they will need our armed forces to stop what’s inevitably coming in my opinion, but of course we only have a handful
.

I think you're just about spot on, a lot of folk are completely fed up with all this nonsense about integration, these people are savages they have no morals & have no intention of earning an honest living why should everyone who abides by the rules be forced to pay for this bunch of parasites descending illegally to the UK. It's nothing to do with racism simply if you put nothing you're not entitled to take anything out. So simply load them up & ship them back forcibly no more softly softly nonsense.

Unfortunately the words we have spoken here are deemed racist right wing etc they are trying to shut us up, fat chance they have with me I will call a spade a spade until I die👍 get the scrounging scum out and don’t leave any more in. They haven’t evolved enough for our society!
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Raeturbo on 18 July 2025, 22:19:52
While we’re at it these adverts are nuts now gone,, spot the white man😡
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 18 July 2025, 22:21:50
I haven't commented on this, pointless. But in the last couple of weeks I have moved on from the idea of Farage, what we need is a military junta.
As for the boats, anyone can fly a drone  :-X
Floating barbed wire in international waters may oray not be considered piracy...
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 18 July 2025, 22:31:59
I haven't commented on this, pointless. But in the last couple of weeks I have moved on from the idea of Farage, what we need is a military junta.
As for the boats, anyone can fly a drone :-X

Funny isn't it how the authorities have told us that it's impossible to monitor 90 odd miles of French beaches so that they can intercept the dinghy launches, yet over in Ukraine nothing much moves over a 1000 miles of front line without either side spotting it.  ::)
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: ronnyd on 18 July 2025, 22:55:23
I haven't commented on this, pointless. But in the last couple of weeks I have moved on from the idea of Farage, what we need is a military junta.
As for the boats, anyone can fly a drone :-X

Funny isn't it how the authorities have told us that it's impossible to monitor 90 odd miles of French beaches so that they can intercept the dinghy launches, yet over in Ukraine nothing much moves over a 1000 miles of front line without either side spotting it.  ::)
Depends how much our government, i use the term loosely, really want to see it.  ;)
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 19 July 2025, 13:32:08
Lizzie has a good kind heart but I think her sympathies are misplaced on this occasion. (No offence meant).

 ;D ;D ;D  I do have a kind heart, thanks...........BUT what I am suggesting is that we use the best talent available in the migrant population, and chuck the rest back to where they belong!

You see, I am a pragmatist! :D :D ;)  It worked for me in business:  I kept the best, got rid of the worst.  Never lost an Employment Tribunal case, or any other case, as I did everything by the book.  That is what the Government should do. :D :)
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 19 July 2025, 13:38:22
Lizzie has a good kind heart but I think her sympathies are misplaced on this occasion. (No offence meant).

 ;D ;D ;D  I do have a kind heart, thanks...........BUT what I am suggesting is that we use the best talent available in the migrant population, and chuck the rest back to where they belong!

You see, I am a pragmatist! :D :D ;)
Nothing good comes from the sea unless you can eat it
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 19 July 2025, 14:43:41
Even if you can eat it !
You shouldnt eat stuff that smells like that.  ;D
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: STEMO on 19 July 2025, 14:56:17
Even if you can eat it !
You shouldnt eat stuff that smells like that.  ;D
Yes, smells very fishy that fish.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Rangie on 19 July 2025, 18:21:38
Apparently a gathering on Dover beach tonight protesting against the illegals , good on them 👍
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 19 July 2025, 20:08:14
It will be ignored, unless a few morons turn up and cause bother.
Then the media will be all over it, and the Police , who are so under staffed they cant investigate most crimes like burglary etc. will send in van loads of officers in riot gear.  :(
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 20 July 2025, 01:13:28
It will be ignored, unless a few morons turn up and cause bother.
Then the media will be all over it, and the Police , who are so under staffed they cant investigate most crimes like burglary etc. will send in van loads of officers in riot gear. :(

They might also send in a few vans of ANTIFA, Stand Up To Racism, and whatever far left nutters they can rustle up to inflame things a bit.  :-X
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Raeturbo on 21 July 2025, 17:07:58
I’m looking at places in Spain to do up,  this countries finished.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 July 2025, 17:11:20
I’m looking at places in Spain to do up,  this countries finished.

I saw vids of gangs of Moroccans kicking off in a couple of Spanish towns last week.  :-\
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Raeturbo on 21 July 2025, 17:24:20
Yeah,  almost 77,000 of them vs 21,000 Brits. In Almeria where I was looking
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Raeturbo on 21 July 2025, 17:28:21
Mm do t look so nice now ☹️….   

https://www.google.com/search?q=Almeria+population+by+race&client=safari&sca_esv=0584e342056e488a&hl=en-gb&biw=375&bih=631&ei=U2p-aILIELWmhbIP0eS_kQw&oq=Almeria+population+by+race&gs_lp=EhNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwIhpBbG1lcmlhIHBvcHVsYXRpb24gYnkgcmFjZTIKEAAYsAMY1gQYRzIKEAAYsAMY1gQYRzIKEAAYsAMY1gQYRzIKEAAYsAMY1gQYRzIKEAAYsAMY1gQYRzIKEAAYsAMY1gQYRzIKEAAYsAMY1gQYRzIKEAAYsAMY1gQYR0jSNFAAWABwAngBkAEAmAEAoAEAqgEAuAEDyAEAmAICoAIRmAMAiAYBkAYIkgcBMqAHALIHALgHAMIHBzAuMS4wLjHIBw0&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Varche on 21 July 2025, 20:49:58
I’m looking at places in Spain to do up,  this countries finished.

I saw vids of gangs of Moroccans kicking off in a couple of Spanish towns last week.  :-\

First one was up Murcia way. Agricultural area that needs loads of cheap,labour to grow cheap food for Spain and Northern Europe including Britain. So Moroccans welcomed.  Then they don’t drink, don’t dance so the men own the streets.

More worrying was our local town of Loja has been open to Morrocan immigrants. The youths own the town at night swaggering down the streets. On Saturday night the gipsy Spanish community fought on the streets with Moroccan youths at 2 am. Lots of videos and media coverage. Not a good scenario but no one thinks far enough ahead for lack of integration.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 21 July 2025, 21:10:37
Its not just this country Rae. The Western world is infected with the same disease.
I dont know if there is any country you could go to that doesnt have the same or similar problems as the UK.  :-\
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Varche on 21 July 2025, 21:58:38
Its not just this country Rae. The Western world is infected with the same disease.
I dont know if there is any country you could go to that doesnt have the same or similar problems as the UK.  :-\

Spot on.
I think our local town hovers at around 20,000 on the register. Encouraging immigrants gets it over and more central funding. Our local town mayor has been good for the town but is now toast at the next elections.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Raeturbo on 21 July 2025, 22:40:21
Its not just this country Rae. The Western world is infected with the same disease.
I dont know if there is any country you could go to that doesnt have the same or similar problems as the UK.  :-\

             I think you’re right unfortunately ☹️ the west really has to wake up, I don’t think  we have a lot of time left before it really kicks off.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 23 July 2025, 08:36:13
It will be ignored, unless a few morons turn up and cause bother.
Then the media will be all over it, and the Police , who are so under staffed they cant investigate most crimes like burglary etc. will send in van loads of officers in riot gear. :(

They might also send in a few vans of ANTIFA, Stand Up To Racism, and whatever far left nutters they can rustle up to inflame things a bit.  :-X
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I assumed this was a tongue in cheek comment, but Ive just seen the footage of the Police bringing the Antifa protesters to the site in a fleet of Police minibuses !!  :o :o
Surely heads have to roll over this ?
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 23 July 2025, 10:04:43
It will be ignored, unless a few morons turn up and cause bother.
Then the media will be all over it, and the Police , who are so under staffed they cant investigate most crimes like burglary etc. will send in van loads of officers in riot gear. :(

They might also send in a few vans of ANTIFA, Stand Up To Racism, and whatever far left nutters they can rustle up to inflame things a bit.  :-X
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I assumed this was a tongue in cheek comment, but Ive just seen the footage of the Police bringing the Antifa protesters to the site in a fleet of Police minibuses !!  :o :o
Surely heads have to roll over this ?
As the realisation of that sinks in, perhaps people will begin to understand why Americans have the right to bear arms.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 July 2025, 10:41:43
It will be ignored, unless a few morons turn up and cause bother.
Then the media will be all over it, and the Police , who are so under staffed they cant investigate most crimes like burglary etc. will send in van loads of officers in riot gear. :(

They might also send in a few vans of ANTIFA, Stand Up To Racism, and whatever far left nutters they can rustle up to inflame things a bit.  :-X
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I assumed this was a tongue in cheek comment, but Ive just seen the footage of the Police bringing the Antifa protesters to the site in a fleet of Police minibuses !!  :o :o
Surely heads have to roll over this ?

No I saw the footage on X a few days ago. It's taken the Establishment media a few days to catch up.  :-X

Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: STEMO on 23 July 2025, 12:21:05
From the Telegraph:
Police have admitted escorting pro-migrant protesters to an asylum hotel at the centre of days of volatile demonstrations.
Essex Police initially denied that it had brought activists from the group Stand up to Racism to the Bell Hotel in Epping amid claims by anti-migrant protesters that the arrival of counter-demonstrators sparked the violence on July 17.
However, the force backtracked after being shown footage of the protesters being escorted by officers from a nearby station to the hotel.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: STEMO on 23 July 2025, 12:23:29
And here's another one:
A four-star hotel in Canary Wharf is being earmarked by the Home Office to house migrants.
Protesters gathered outside the Britannia International Hotel on Tuesday night after incorrect reports claiming asylum seekers were being transferred from Epping to London’s financial district.
The Home Office later clarified this was not the case.
However, according to Tower Hamlets council, Labour intends to repurpose the London hotel as temporary accommodation for asylum seekers.
On Wednesday morning, workers were pictured wheeling beds and mattresses into the hotel.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 July 2025, 12:49:00
A Britannia Hotel that is four star!

Didn't realise such a thing existed, they are usually hovels
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Raeturbo on 23 July 2025, 13:07:33
Well not commenting on that at the moment because I would risk a ban.  But here’s the just of it, I hope you understand &@&?!///:-:;;::%#}{][|<€$¥!><?<||{^*)(£&@&!!(/?)£&(;(>#}]#*$!€$!!!!!!!😡😡😡😡😡🪚💉⛓️
               
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: ronnyd on 23 July 2025, 13:19:24
A Britannia Hotel that is four star!

Didn't realise such a thing existed, they are usually hovels
;D ;D
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 July 2025, 13:25:44
Travelodge are even worse than a hovel.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 23 July 2025, 16:12:35
Essex Chief Constable has held a news conference where he denied that Police had escorted anyone to the protests.
He said they had escorted some people away from the protest for their own safety.
If this is proved to be untrue I dont see how he could stay in his job.
No doubt the truth will come out at some point. It almost always does.  :-\
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 July 2025, 16:51:24
Travelodge are even worse than a hovel.

I don't mind a Travelodge.  :y  I stayed in a Days Inn at a services on the M6 recently and thought that was OK as well.  :)

Maybe I'm just easily pleased!  :)
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: STEMO on 23 July 2025, 17:22:29
Essex Chief Constable has held a news conference where he denied that Police had escorted anyone to the protests.
He said they had escorted some people away from the protest for their own safety.
If this is proved to be untrue I dont see how he could stay in his job.
No doubt the truth will come out at some point. It almost always does.  :-\
From my favourite rag:
The chief constable of Essex Police said he will not resign amid criticism of his force’s handling of protests outside a migrant hotel.

Ben-Julian Harrington rejected calls from Nigel Farage, the leader of Reform UK, for him to stand down.

He told a press conference this afternoon: “No, I am not [resigning]. I am not going to do that. This is not about me; this is about the communities of Essex.”

He added: “The issue is not about my resignation. The issue is about an effective police operation that keeps the communities of Epping safe.”
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 July 2025, 17:36:02
Essex Chief Constable has held a news conference where he denied that Police had escorted anyone to the protests.
He said they had escorted some people away from the protest for their own safety.
If this is proved to be untrue I dont see how he could stay in his job.
No doubt the truth will come out at some point. It almost always does.  :-\
From my favourite rag:
The chief constable of Essex Police said he will not resign amid criticism of his force’s handling of protests outside a migrant hotel.

Ben-Julian Harrington rejected calls from Nigel Farage, the leader of Reform UK, for him to stand down.

He told a press conference this afternoon: “No, I am not [resigning]. I am not going to do that. This is not about me; this is about the communities of Essex.”

He added: “The issue is not about my resignation. The issue is about an effective police operation that keeps the communities of Epping safe.”

Essex police didn't keep that young girl safe from the illegal immigrant who had only been in the country for a couple of weeks.  :-X
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 23 July 2025, 18:07:25
Here's the thing, that statement has just ensured that Essex Police will have zero public trust and that's not going to be good for anyone on the force front line or in Essex as a whole.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: STEMO on 23 July 2025, 18:19:32
Ben-Julian? Who the wotsit has a double barrelled first name? Suits him, though.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: STEMO on 23 July 2025, 18:20:49
Ste-Mo  ;D
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: TheBoy on 23 July 2025, 20:39:20
Travelodge are even worse than a hovel.
They serve a purpose.

Realistically the difference between a 5* and a 2/3* is, with some exceptions, is if the receptionist is one for the wank bank.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 23 July 2025, 20:55:10
Travelodge are even worse than a hovel.
They serve a purpose.

Realistically the difference between a 5* and a 2/3* is, with some exceptions, is if the receptionist is one for the wank bank.
You have that bass ackwards. The quality of the receptionist is a measure of a good hotel not the star rating >:D

Obviously the scale of acceptable standards depends on the country... Lagos for example, clear and hot water and no power cuts whilst the lights are on is about all you can hope for...

That said, I can recommend avoiding the Travelodge at Heston Westbound even if the parking is free :-X

Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 July 2025, 22:10:38
The thing with services hotels is that you're stuck with crappy expensive services food.  ::)

The one I stayed in recently had a Maccas, Costa and WH Smiths. The silver lining was that I bought a couple of tinnies and a bar of chocolate in WHS to take back to my room after I had my BigMac!  :)
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 July 2025, 22:13:05
Back on topic....

https://x.com/LeoKearse/status/1948052184676864049
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 23 July 2025, 22:53:08
Good points well presented.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 July 2025, 11:11:43
The last time I frequented a Travelodge I found pubic hair on the sheets that was not mine.

I complained and the skanky hag at reception suggested I had placed the 'short and curly' there myself in order to get a refund. :-X
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: TheBoy on 24 July 2025, 11:25:30
The thing with services hotels is that you're stuck with crappy expensive services food.  ::)
And none of the motorway services hotels are allowed to do in-hotel food. And a bit like airport hotels, don't expect to get great sleep, as people banging cases up and down the corridor all night, and generally in noisy environments.

Not that the usual Travelodge food is great, its more of your estate pub type food, but fortunately at estate pub type prices.  Adequate is the term I'd use.
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 24 July 2025, 13:26:05
If they were being escorted for their own safety, surely they would have been strongly advised to go back whence they came as nothing good could reasonably be expected to arise from their presence  :-X
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 24 July 2025, 14:08:20
If they were being escorted for their own safety, surely they would have been strongly advised to go back whence they came as nothing good could reasonably be expected to arise from their presence  :-X

Nah now you're just talking common sense Al.  :)
Title: Re: Prediction
Post by: Raeturbo on 24 July 2025, 15:45:30
Which has long gone out the window in the UK