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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: tunnie on 13 August 2025, 10:39:06
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Used this at the weekend, as a Model Y is on my list for a milk float. Quite impressed really, I registered for a test drive on their website. Downloaded the app and logged in. Had to take a photo of my license and a selfie and it processed it all in under 10seconds.
At Blackbush airport they had parked a Model 3 and Model Y, just on their own, no service bods or Tesla folk around. At the time of my test drive the app had a "Locate Car" button in the app, which then prompted me to unlock it. Few seconds of waiting and the car unlocked itself and I had a Model Y for the hour.
I wanted to hate it, but I took the drive as they are for me at least incredibly temping on value. Sad to say I actually quite liked it, it was the Launch Edition, so it had a dual motor and "Acceleration Boost" - More than enough power and no hanging around with 4.6s to 60.
I think early Tesla's did suffer from build/quality feeling, but this felt decent enough. It was very, very quiet. The ride has improved quite a bit from the old Model Y which I've been in a few times. Quite quickly was used to the regen brakes, voice commands actually worked rather well.
Very little to complain about really.
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Used this at the weekend, as a Model Y is on my list for a milk float. Quite impressed really, I registered for a test drive on their website. Downloaded the app and logged in. Had to take a photo of my license and a selfie and it processed it all in under 10seconds.
At Blackbush airport they had parked a Model 3 and Model Y, just on their own, no service bods or Tesla folk around. At the time of my test drive the app had a "Locate Car" button in the app, which then prompted me to unlock it. Few seconds of waiting and the car unlocked itself and I had a Model Y for the hour.
I wanted to hate it, but I took the drive as they are for me at least incredibly temping on value. Sad to say I actually quite liked it, it was the Launch Edition, so it had a dual motor and "Acceleration Boost" - More than enough power and no hanging around with 4.6s to 60.
I think early Tesla's did suffer from build/quality feeling, but this felt decent enough. It was very, very quiet. The ride has improved quite a bit from the old Model Y which I've been in a few times. Quite quickly was used to the regen brakes, voice commands actually worked rather well.
Very little to complain about really.
Yep....last thing you want (especially if a woman) is some hairy-arsed salesman telling you where to go, how fast and how far.
I won't test drive unless they give me the keys and then f*uck off.
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https://youtu.be/VD9gxUSD6K8?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/VD9gxUSD6K8?feature=shared)
Have you considered a British Tesla from the land of the slitty eye.
742BHP... :o :o
7 year warranty.
£48,000.
Available next month.
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https://youtu.be/VD9gxUSD6K8?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/VD9gxUSD6K8?feature=shared)
Have you considered a British Tesla from the land of the slitty eye.
742BHP... :o :o
7 year warranty.
£48,000.
Available next month.
The reviews say the ride is horrific.
Also, list price for salary sacrifice least deals appear to have little impact.
A £70k car can be cheaper for me to lease than a £40k car! I think the re-sale values and other things impact it
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It will never have the character your old Senator had though. ;) ;D
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No that dual ram straight 6 was something else!
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Exactly. your never going to get that from a posh milk float. :)
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Exactly. your never going to get that from a posh milk float. :)
Nope, but then again if my miles rocket to 20k a year, I'd prefer the fact a Tesla would cost me just a fiver to "fill" it. Plus I never have to buy tyres or service or MOT it or do anything really! :D
Little MissT starts big school thats 15 miles away, if I end up driving her, I might as well carry onto the office.....
There are other options, we are waiting to see if she gets on the private run bus to the state school, but it's £145/m :o
Public bus is an option, but given where I'd have to drive so she can pick it up, I might as well just drive to the school. So that plus tax savings are pushing me to the EV's.
Shame as I really loving the 435i, smooth power, the sound, no complaints.
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Build quality from the earlier ones remain on the Model 3 and Model Y. They aren't really put together well, and some of the panel lines out of the factory are appalling. But at £40k, they need to be considered as a cheap car, not a Bentley. And at then end of the day, if its a 2/3yr lease, who cares, as long as its comfortable enough and does what you want. Treat it as an appliance, and its not your problem to sort when bits drop off - hopefully not in the 2/3yr lease mind.
Even you wouldn't be able to get claimed range, and remember they prefer to spend most of their life between about 30% to 90% battery. Also remember that home charging will likely give you only 5 hours of 7kW charging, so not enough to "fill" it from empty. Shouldn't be a problem for commuting etc, unless things change, but in some cases you may not be able to fill it up enough to cover daily use, so as the week goes on, you may find yourself getting lower on charge.... ...or suck up peak rate charging and/or public charging, both of which blow the maths clean out of the water.
Addiitonally, I seem to recall you do a lot of the M3 on your commute. Motorway speeds muller tha range.
Lastly, if your missus has to drive it about, don't underestimate the size of the things. They don't look big, but compare width and length to that of your car ;). Remember, driving back from the pub is definatly women's work.
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Should say I keep considering using our scheme for the same benefits around tax avoidance, but everything we look into it, we decide EV's still aren't viable enough for our usage.
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Nope, but then again if my miles rocket to 20k a year, I'd prefer the fact a Tesla would cost me just a fiver to "fill" it. Plus I never have to buy tyres or service or MOT it or do anything really! :D
This is exactly where we got to. Between mine and my OH's commutes, school and nursery runs the iX is now sitting on 31250 miles since the end of June last year. In that time I've also had 3 punctures, all sorted without ever having to open my wallet. We are however kicking the cr@p out of our 4yr/80k mile lease though so I can see me buying myself a used EV for commuting and letting SWMBO have the iX as the family bus in the next 12 months or so.
So far I have noticed no degradation in range from when new. The iX has a claimed range of 257 miles and the most I've had out of mine is c240, but I don't consciously drive economically and I've never put it in Eco mode. Winter range seems closer to 210 and if you're on a private road, at night, doing around 100mph, the range will drop to around 100-110 miles - so I've been told :).
The only thing I would say is that with the EV BIK ratcheting up over the next few years, that will have an impact on savings, so something with a lower list price may save you more than you think in yrs 3&4 - especially as it can carry you back into the £100k/60% tax trap, which I am sure you are all too well aware of!
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Build quality from the earlier ones remain on the Model 3 and Model Y. They aren't really put together well, and some of the panel lines out of the factory are appalling. But at £40k, they need to be considered as a cheap car, not a Bentley. And at then end of the day, if its a 2/3yr lease, who cares, as long as its comfortable enough and does what you want. Treat it as an appliance, and its not your problem to sort when bits drop off - hopefully not in the 2/3yr lease mind.
Even you wouldn't be able to get claimed range, and remember they prefer to spend most of their life between about 30% to 90% battery. Also remember that home charging will likely give you only 5 hours of 7kW charging, so not enough to "fill" it from empty. Shouldn't be a problem for commuting etc, unless things change, but in some cases you may not be able to fill it up enough to cover daily use, so as the week goes on, you may find yourself getting lower on charge.... ...or suck up peak rate charging and/or public charging, both of which blow the maths clean out of the water.
Addiitonally, I seem to recall you do a lot of the M3 on your commute. Motorway speeds muller tha range.
Lastly, if your missus has to drive it about, don't underestimate the size of the things. They don't look big, but compare width and length to that of your car ;). Remember, driving back from the pub is definatly women's work.
Yes, noted on build, it felt ok to me on the one I test drove. I certainly would never buy second hand. But for me it would be new and not my problem to fix/service/maintain and if my miles rocket, then it's a no brainer.
I would be doing ~80 miles a day, if she does not get the bus. So enough to top-up via home charger overnight. As you say if I do a long road trip at the weekend, I would not be able to fill it in via a home charger, but maybe enough to do the work run.
Work EV charging is no longer free, but 20p kWH so about as cheap as you can get away from home.
On the test drive I thought I could live with it, it's not much to look at, but it's comfy enough, fast enough (AWD), quiet enough. I did not find the drive assistance to intrusive but it was very easy to disable. Autopilot appeared to be ok, used it on the M3 for a couple of junctions, could get used to having that.
What I would be spending on fuel alone in the BWW (assuming 30mpg) would be my 'net' loss for the entire car cost per month.
Also because the car comes out of my "sacrificed monies" I won't actually see that loss, in-fact because I'm not fuelling or running the BMW my "felt" income would actually increase.
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Nope, but then again if my miles rocket to 20k a year, I'd prefer the fact a Tesla would cost me just a fiver to "fill" it. Plus I never have to buy tyres or service or MOT it or do anything really! :D
This is exactly where we got to. Between mine and my OH's commutes, school and nursery runs the iX is now sitting on 31250 miles since the end of June last year. In that time I've also had 3 punctures, all sorted without ever having to open my wallet. We are however kicking the cr@p out of our 4yr/80k mile lease though so I can see me buying myself a used EV for commuting and letting SWMBO have the iX as the family bus in the next 12 months or so.
So far I have noticed no degradation in range from when new. The iX has a claimed range of 257 miles and the most I've had out of mine is c240, but I don't consciously drive economically and I've never put it in Eco mode. Winter range seems closer to 210 and if you're on a private road, at night, doing around 100mph, the range will drop to around 100-110 miles - so I've been told :).
The only thing I would say is that with the EV BIK ratcheting up over the next few years, that will have an impact on savings, so something with a lower list price may save you more than you think in yrs 3&4 - especially as it can carry you back into the £100k/60% tax trap, which I am sure you are all too well aware of!
Yeah the BIK is going to be a sneaky bugger, it's ok now and has little affect but they are going to wack that up soon to claim some more lost tax.
Well aware of the 60% trap, hence my combined pension contributions now total 32% of my salary :o
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The 60% is in some ways a silver cloud as it's forcing me to put more into the pension. If it was not there, I'm sure we would be spending it on junk we do not need!
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I think Tesla build quality has moved on in recent years.
Better more consistent shut lines and build quality better than the old Weetabix box of old......not a patch on the I-Pace though which is 'proper posh' :)
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I would be doing ~80 miles a day, if she does not get the bus. So enough to top-up via home charger overnight. As you say if I do a long road trip at the weekend, I would not be able to fill it in via a home charger, but maybe enough to do the work run.
If that is a lot of motorway miles, you probably won't be able to refill enough to replace what you used in that day, hence me saying your range would reduce throughout the week. Most cheap rates are only for around 5hrs.
If you use less at weekend, obviously it can start Monday morning again with a full tank :y
Work EV charging is no longer free, but 20p kWH so about as cheap as you can get away from home.
On the right tariffs, you should be paying way less than 10p at home on cheap rate.
Our place doesn't offer EV charging. In fact, none of our office locations outside of Lazydocker land offer any parking. Eedjits.
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not a patch on the I-Pace though which is 'proper posh' :)
But £80k. And no longer available. Even if they did have to give the last ones away ;D
I liked the I-Pace, ignoring the EV bits, its a car I could easily live with. But JLR never really did anything to it in its lifetime, and started to feel less up to date.
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I'm expecting 7.5p at home per kWh, Octopus though offer some interesting deals, with sometimes 50% off if you charge that night, but don't charge the next day! ???
Maybe half of it would be motorway, I'm wiggling my way from Camberley to Woking, then to M25. So should be able to get some regen in on that kind of run.
Sky is not bad for charging support. 66 spaces here at the HQ across 3 car parks. You can book them ahead, which has a perk of also booking a parking space
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not a patch on the I-Pace though which is 'proper posh' :)
But £80k. And no longer available. Even if they did have to give the last ones away ;D
I liked the I-Pace, ignoring the EV bits, its a car I could easily live with. But JLR never really did anything to it in its lifetime, and started to feel less up to date.
Charge speed is the biggest flaw at only 100Kw......but with a home charger this is not a problem unless you drive more than 220-240 miles each day.
Great to drive though and 512 lb ft of 'twist' gives instant acceleration.
At £80,000+ forget it......but at £38000 for the bells and whistle HSE 2025 (25 plate) it makes more sense.....although it will still depreciate like just about anything with 4 wheels and a Jaguar badge. ;)
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I'm expecting 7.5p at home per kWh, Octopus though offer some interesting deals, with sometimes 50% off if you charge that night, but don't charge the next day! ???
Gixer is telling me he is paying 7p, I think that is Octopus
Maybe half of it would be motorway, I'm wiggling my way from Camberley to Woking, then to M25. So should be able to get some regen in on that kind of run.
I don't think you'll see much range benefit of regen. In an ideal world, you could turn that off and coast and probably save more, but its all down to other traffic and driving styles.
Motorway speeds do eat power on EVs, more dramatically than ICE cars. Trouble is, until you actually get one, you simply won't know how well it works for you. Personally, I'm not prepared to piss around with public charge points, even ignoring the costs involved. Others are more willing to take a break in their journey. Which is why we are at a point, with our usage, where EVs keep disappearing off our list of potential replacement cars for her XE.
Sky is not bad for charging support. 66 spaces here at the HQ across 3 car parks. You can book them ahead, which has a perk of also booking a parking space
The building I'm in has 6 parking spaces for the building, our company has 4500 people there across about 10 floors, a government agency has several floors in same building. You have to be a special spacca to be able to use one of those 6.
And, as its in Birmingham, you can't use public carparks. So I have to tolerate the crap entity known as Chiltern. Which reminds me, I have another compo claim to pop in, as my choo choo to London was 'dangle berries'ed by a signalling fault at Wembley.
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but with a home charger this is not a problem unless you drive more than 220-240 miles each day.
Assuming you need to use it on consecutive days, you're probably in the realms of a max of 60-80 miles a day, if you want to use cheap rate home charging only.
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I'm expecting 7.5p at home per kWh, Octopus though offer some interesting deals, with sometimes 50% off if you charge that night, but don't charge the next day! ???
Maybe half of it would be motorway, I'm wiggling my way from Camberley to Woking, then to M25. So should be able to get some regen in on that kind of run.
Sky is not bad for charging support. 66 spaces here at the HQ across 3 car parks. You can book them ahead, which has a perk of also booking a parking space
We are with Octopussy but don't use 7.5p electricity because the remainder of electric is charged at a much higher rate.......car will probably cover less than 5000 miles a year.
However, if you do a lot of mileage it may well work out better.
I think we pay 24.12p (inc VAT) a KHh for all electricity.
We take advantage when Octopussy offer free electricity though......usually 2-4 hours each month at present.
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Its quite telling in these parts, lots of people have had home chargers fitted, but virtually nobody has an EV now.
I guess thats a combo of the required range to commute, car tax and BIKs, plus a general increase in lease costs driven by high insurance and massive depreciation costs, making the maths swing a bit back towards diesel.
The HS2 mob will tell me that the trains are taking up the slack. Tunnie's old favourite Bicester North station long ago closed the multistorey carpark, and the 2 lower carparks, all of which used to be fairly rammed. So clearly Chiltern aren't taking up any slack ;D
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Its quite telling in these parts, lots of people have had home chargers fitted, but virtually nobody has an EV now.
I guess thats a combo of the required range to commute, car tax and BIKs, plus a general increase in lease costs driven by high insurance and massive depreciation costs, making the maths swing a bit back towards diesel.
The HS2 mob will tell me that the trains are taking up the slack. Tunnie's old favourite Bicester North station long ago closed the multistorey carpark, and the 2 lower carparks, all of which used to be fairly rammed. So clearly Chiltern aren't taking up any slack ;D
I drive something with 6 inline cylinders and a petrol engine as much as possible. :)
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Ive heard that Insurance is much more expensive on EV,s. Is this true ?
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Ive heard that Insurance is much more expensive on EV,s. Is this true ?
Won't affect me via the salary deals, but heard they can be more.
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I'm expecting 7.5p at home per kWh, Octopus though offer some interesting deals, with sometimes 50% off if you charge that night, but don't charge the next day! ???
Maybe half of it would be motorway, I'm wiggling my way from Camberley to Woking, then to M25. So should be able to get some regen in on that kind of run.
Sky is not bad for charging support. 66 spaces here at the HQ across 3 car parks. You can book them ahead, which has a perk of also booking a parking space
We are with Octopussy but don't use 7.5p electricity because the remainder of electric is charged at a much higher rate.......car will probably cover less than 5000 miles a year.
However, if you do a lot of mileage it may well work out better.
I think we pay 24.12p (inc VAT) a KHh for all electricity.
We take advantage when Octopussy offer free electricity though......usually 2-4 hours each month at present.
Yeah they get you with the day time rate going up!
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If I had one I could charge it for free at work, but I will only be working for a maximum of another four years, so probably wont bother.
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Ive heard that Insurance is much more expensive on EV,s. Is this true ?
Won't affect me via the salary deals, but heard they can be more.
It'll effectively make the monthly costs increase, though that is set at the start for the term. Our scheme has some quite high excess on EVs (something like £750).
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but with a home charger this is not a problem unless you drive more than 220-240 miles each day.
Assuming you need to use it on consecutive days, you're probably in the realms of a max of 60-80 miles a day, if you want to use cheap rate home charging only.
From my experience, that's possibly a bit pessimistic. My lifetime average according to the app (which is close enough that I CBA to work out the actuals after the first 3 months of ownership) is apparently 3.1 miles per kwh, which means 217 miles per 'tank'. On a miles basis >90% of its work is motorway; either Telford -> Warwick (me), Telford -> Northampton (her) or 3 junctions up the M54 (School run). She drives everywhere on the speed limit, I drive at around 80 leptons when traffic permits, but given we commute, there's a fair bit of stop-start involved along with the poxy variable speed limits around Brummie land. If I have late meetings, speed goes up, range comes down, 1.7 miles per kwh is the worst I've seen iirc. ;D
Octopus gives me 6hrs per day at 7p (down from 7.5p earlier this year) so that's a theoretical 42kwh per day, although admittedly its probably closer to 35 ish. Even so, the tesla would be more efficient (3.5+ miles per kwh at least) so should be able to maintain 120+ miles per day. Also, in fairness to Octopus, if I plug in when I get home at 7pm, they usually find more than 6hrs of cheap electricity between then and my usual leave time of around 5-5.30am.
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but with a home charger this is not a problem unless you drive more than 220-240 miles each day.
Assuming you need to use it on consecutive days, you're probably in the realms of a max of 60-80 miles a day, if you want to use cheap rate home charging only.
From my experience, that's possibly a bit pessimistic. My lifetime average according to the app (which is close enough that I CBA to work out the actuals after the first 3 months of ownership) is apparently 3.1 miles per kwh, which means 217 miles per 'tank'. On a miles basis >90% of its work is motorway; either Telford -> Warwick (me), Telford -> Northampton (her) or 3 junctions up the M54 (School run). She drives everywhere on the speed limit, I drive at around 80 leptons when traffic permits, but given we commute, there's a fair bit of stop-start involved along with the poxy variable speed limits around Brummie land. If I have late meetings, speed goes up, range comes down, 1.7 miles per kwh is the worst I've seen iirc. ;D
Octopus gives me 6hrs per day at 7p (down from 7.5p earlier this year) so that's a theoretical 42kwh per day, although admittedly its probably closer to 35 ish. Even so, the tesla would be more efficient (3.5+ miles per kwh at least) so should be able to maintain 120+ miles per day. Also, in fairness to Octopus, if I plug in when I get home at 7pm, they usually find more than 6hrs of cheap electricity between then and my usual leave time of around 5-5.30am.
I wish Jaguar could make the maths so simple.......but they prefer the arse over tit method of maths.
Readout for the last 1200 miles shows 35.9Kwh consumed per 100 miles......which works out at
2.78miles per Kw. :-\
Still, it has (apparently) 84.7 KW of 'usable battery so....236 miles.
But that is in the summer. When the weather gets as cold as a witches tit this figure will drop. :-X
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Ive heard that Insurance is much more expensive on EV,s. Is this true ?
Roughly £300.
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but with a home charger this is not a problem unless you drive more than 220-240 miles each day.
Assuming you need to use it on consecutive days, you're probably in the realms of a max of 60-80 miles a day, if you want to use cheap rate home charging only.
From my experience, that's possibly a bit pessimistic. My lifetime average according to the app (which is close enough that I CBA to work out the actuals after the first 3 months of ownership) is apparently 3.1 miles per kwh, which means 217 miles per 'tank'. On a miles basis >90% of its work is motorway; either Telford -> Warwick (me), Telford -> Northampton (her) or 3 junctions up the M54 (School run). She drives everywhere on the speed limit, I drive at around 80 leptons when traffic permits, but given we commute, there's a fair bit of stop-start involved along with the poxy variable speed limits around Brummie land. If I have late meetings, speed goes up, range comes down, 1.7 miles per kwh is the worst I've seen iirc. ;D
Octopus gives me 6hrs per day at 7p (down from 7.5p earlier this year) so that's a theoretical 42kwh per day, although admittedly its probably closer to 35 ish. Even so, the tesla would be more efficient (3.5+ miles per kwh at least) so should be able to maintain 120+ miles per day. Also, in fairness to Octopus, if I plug in when I get home at 7pm, they usually find more than 6hrs of cheap electricity between then and my usual leave time of around 5-5.30am.
That's good to know around the 120 mile per night
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Exactly. your never going to get that from a posh milk float. :)
Nope, but then again if my miles rocket to 20k a year, I'd prefer the fact a Tesla would cost me just a fiver to "fill" it. Plus I never have to buy tyres or service or MOT it or do anything really! :D
Little MissT starts big school thats 15 miles away, if I end up driving her, I might as well carry onto the office.....
There are other options, we are waiting to see if she gets on the private run bus to the state school, but it's £145/m :o
Public bus is an option, but given where I'd have to drive so she can pick it up, I might as well just drive to the school. So that plus tax savings are pushing me to the EV's.
Shame as I really loving the 435i, smooth power, the sound, no complaints.
Hardly seems a year or two ago when you were a young undergraduate who TB constantly referred to as "the useless student".
They grow up so fast. ;D
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Hardly seems a year or two ago when you were a young undergraduate who TB constantly referred to as "the useless student".
They grow up so fast. ;D
He'll always be the useless student.
Thats why many of my very long term friends still call my the boy.... ;D
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;D ;D :y
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Recharging at work is great but the instant it is subsidised, it becomes a benefit, and probably taxable. No one is able to buy subsidised petrol/diesel at work so being provided subsidised charging at work is arguably discrimination against people who can't afford an EV or one isn't practical.
If Junction 10 is jammed up, I will use A31/A331/M3 to bypass it which makes sense because it adds zero extra distance as well as time saved Vs time sat in traffic. (It also affords the option of the A30 if the M25 is really bad). Unless you HAVE to drive to Woking to take the kids to school, going that way to get to the M3 is utter madness. Especially when you live next to the M3 and just off the A30.
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If Junction 10 is jammed up, I will use A31/A331/M3 to bypass it which makes sense because it adds zero extra distance as well as time saved Vs time sat in traffic. (It also affords the option of the A30 if the M25 is really bad). Unless you HAVE to drive to Woking to take the kids to school, going that way to get to the M3 is utter madness. Especially when you live next to the M3 and just off the A30.
That's obviously a short term issue. Well, given the way civil engineering is these days, probably not that short term. But planned to be finished within the next 12 months.
Clearly replacing a roundabout with traffic lights on (thus snarling up the motorway) with a slightly larger roundabout with traffic lights on will totally cure the problem there, and well worth £300m. Not.
As for Tunnie driving to Woking, given what Woking is like, he'll have to fight off the prozzie's at every set of traffic lights ;D
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If Junction 10 is jammed up, I will use A31/A331/M3 to bypass it which makes sense because it adds zero extra distance as well as time saved Vs time sat in traffic. (It also affords the option of the A30 if the M25 is really bad). Unless you HAVE to drive to Woking to take the kids to school, going that way to get to the M3 is utter madness. Especially when you live next to the M3 and just off the A30.
That's obviously a short term issue. Well, given the way civil engineering is these days, probably not that short term. But planned to be finished within the next 12 months.
Clearly replacing a roundabout with traffic lights on (thus snarling up the motorway) with a slightly larger roundabout with traffic lights on will totally cure the problem there, and well worth £300m. Not.
As for Tunnie driving to Woking, given what Woking is like, he'll have to fight off the prozzie's at every set of traffic lights ;D
A proper red light district then. :D
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Yup. I have family near there, and every time I drive into Woking, day or night, with or without the missus in the car, the prozzies come over....
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Ten pound love you long time. ;D
Or sucky f***y five pound. ;D
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Ten pound love you long time. ;D
Or sucky f***y five pound. ;D
There.....that proves the point I made on another thread. Ten pound? Maybe 30 years ago ;D
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If Junction 10 is jammed up, I will use A31/A331/M3 to bypass it which makes sense because it adds zero extra distance as well as time saved Vs time sat in traffic. (It also affords the option of the A30 if the M25 is really bad). Unless you HAVE to drive to Woking to take the kids to school, going that way to get to the M3 is utter madness. Especially when you live next to the M3 and just off the A30.
That's obviously a short term issue. Well, given the way civil engineering is these days, probably not that short term. But planned to be finished within the next 12 months.
Clearly replacing a roundabout with traffic lights on (thus snarling up the motorway) with a slightly larger roundabout with traffic lights on will totally cure the problem there, and well worth £300m. Not.
As for Tunnie driving to Woking, given what Woking is like, he'll have to fight off the prozzie's at every set of traffic lights ;D
The A3/M25 roundabout has had traffic lights on it since it was opened, certainly as long as I have been driving. They do seem to have improved things slightly though and looks like it might actually be completed on time :o
Tunnie does have a very odd sense of direction though...
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Ten pound love you long time. ;D
Or sucky f***y five pound. ;D
There.....that proves the point I made on another thread. Ten pound? Maybe 30 years ago ;D
I wouldnt know, but it looks like you do. ;D
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If Junction 10 is jammed up, I will use A31/A331/M3 to bypass it which makes sense because it adds zero extra distance as well as time saved Vs time sat in traffic. (It also affords the option of the A30 if the M25 is really bad). Unless you HAVE to drive to Woking to take the kids to school, going that way to get to the M3 is utter madness. Especially when you live next to the M3 and just off the A30.
That's obviously a short term issue. Well, given the way civil engineering is these days, probably not that short term. But planned to be finished within the next 12 months.
Clearly replacing a roundabout with traffic lights on (thus snarling up the motorway) with a slightly larger roundabout with traffic lights on will totally cure the problem there, and well worth £300m. Not.
As for Tunnie driving to Woking, given what Woking is like, he'll have to fight off the prozzie's at every set of traffic lights ;D
The A3/M25 roundabout has had traffic lights on it since it was opened, certainly as long as I have been driving. They do seem to have improved things slightly though and looks like it might actually be completed on time :o
Tunnie does have a very odd sense of direction though...
Sorry, my point was about replacing a fair large roundabout with a slightly larger on with traffic lights will do SFA to the queues on both the M25 and the A3.
I was kinda hoping my regular trips to Guildford would soon come to an end, but after a discussion with one of our designers, it would appear not. Bugger.
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On a good month I only suffer it 8 times ;)