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[tunnie]

Used this at the weekend, as a Model Y is on my list for a milk float. Quite impressed really, I registered for a test drive on their website. Downloaded the app and logged in. Had to take a photo of my license and a selfie and it processed it all in under 10seconds.

At Blackbush airport they had parked a Model 3 and Model Y, just on their own, no service bods or Tesla folk around. At the time of my test drive the app had a "Locate Car" button in the app, which then prompted me to unlock it. Few seconds of waiting and the car unlocked itself and I had a Model Y for the hour.

I wanted to hate it, but I took the drive as they are for me at least incredibly temping on value. Sad to say I actually quite liked it, it was the Launch Edition, so it had a dual motor and "Acceleration Boost" - More than enough power and no hanging around with 4.6s to 60.

I think early Tesla's did suffer from build/quality feeling, but this felt decent enough. It was very, very quiet. The ride has improved quite a bit from the old Model Y which I've been in a few times. Quite quickly was used to the regen brakes, voice commands actually worked rather well.

Very little to complain about really.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Used this at the weekend, as a Model Y is on my list for a milk float. Quite impressed really, I registered for a test drive on their website. Downloaded the app and logged in. Had to take a photo of my license and a selfie and it processed it all in under 10seconds.

At Blackbush airport they had parked a Model 3 and Model Y, just on their own, no service bods or Tesla folk around. At the time of my test drive the app had a "Locate Car" button in the app, which then prompted me to unlock it. Few seconds of waiting and the car unlocked itself and I had a Model Y for the hour.

I wanted to hate it, but I took the drive as they are for me at least incredibly temping on value. Sad to say I actually quite liked it, it was the Launch Edition, so it had a dual motor and "Acceleration Boost" - More than enough power and no hanging around with 4.6s to 60.

I think early Tesla's did suffer from build/quality feeling, but this felt decent enough. It was very, very quiet. The ride has improved quite a bit from the old Model Y which I've been in a few times. Quite quickly was used to the regen brakes, voice commands actually worked rather well.

Very little to complain about really.

Yep....last thing you want (especially if a woman) is some hairy-arsed salesman telling you where to go, how fast and how far.

I won't test drive unless they give me the keys and then f*uck off.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

https://youtu.be/VD9gxUSD6K8?feature=shared

Have you considered a British Tesla from the land of the slitty eye.

742BHP...
7 year warranty.
£48,000.

Available next month.
 

[tunnie]

https://youtu.be/VD9gxUSD6K8?feature=shared

Have you considered a British Tesla from the land of the slitty eye.

742BHP...
7 year warranty.
£48,000.

Available next month.

The reviews say the ride is horrific.

Also, list price for salary sacrifice least deals appear to have little impact.

A £70k car can be cheaper for me to lease than a £40k car! I think the re-sale values and other things impact it

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

It will never have the character your old Senator had though. 

[tunnie]

No that dual ram straight 6 was something else!

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Exactly. your never going to get that from a posh milk float. 

[tunnie]

Exactly. your never going to get that from a posh milk float. 

Nope, but then again if my miles rocket to 20k a year, I'd prefer the fact a Tesla would cost me just a fiver to "fill" it. Plus I never have to buy tyres or service or MOT it or do anything really! 

Little MissT starts big school thats 15 miles away, if I end up driving her, I might as well carry onto the office.....

There are other options, we are waiting to see if she gets on the private run bus to the state school, but it's £145/m 

Public bus is an option, but given where I'd have to drive so she can pick it up, I might as well just drive to the school. So that plus tax savings are pushing me to the EV's.

Shame as I really loving the 435i, smooth power, the sound, no complaints.

[TheBoy]

Build quality from the earlier ones remain on the Model 3 and Model Y.  They aren't really put together well, and some of the panel lines out of the factory are appalling.  But at £40k, they need to be considered as a cheap car, not a Bentley.  And at then end of the day, if its a 2/3yr lease, who cares, as long as its comfortable enough and does what you want.  Treat it as an appliance, and its not your problem to sort when bits drop off - hopefully not in the 2/3yr lease mind.

Even you wouldn't be able to get claimed range, and remember they prefer to spend most of their life between about 30% to 90% battery.  Also remember that home charging will likely give you only 5 hours of 7kW charging, so not enough to "fill" it from empty.  Shouldn't be a problem for commuting etc, unless things change, but in some cases you may not be able to fill it up enough to cover daily use, so as the week goes on, you may find yourself getting lower on charge....   ...or suck up peak rate charging and/or public charging, both of which blow the maths clean out of the water.

Addiitonally, I seem to recall you do a lot of the M3 on your commute.  Motorway speeds muller tha range.


Lastly, if your missus has to drive it about, don't underestimate the size of the things.  They don't look big, but compare width and length to that of your car .  Remember, driving back from the pub is definatly women's work.

[TheBoy]

Should say I keep considering using our scheme for the same benefits around tax avoidance, but everything we look into it, we decide EV's still aren't viable enough for our usage.

[Viral_Jim]

Nope, but then again if my miles rocket to 20k a year, I'd prefer the fact a Tesla would cost me just a fiver to "fill" it. Plus I never have to buy tyres or service or MOT it or do anything really! 

This is exactly where we got to. Between mine and my OH's commutes, school and nursery runs the iX is now sitting on 31250 miles since the end of June last year. In that time I've also had 3 punctures, all sorted without ever having to open my wallet. We are however kicking the cr@p out of our 4yr/80k mile lease though so I can see me buying myself a used EV for commuting and letting SWMBO have the iX as the family bus in the next 12 months or so.

So far I have noticed no degradation in range from when new. The iX has a claimed range of 257 miles and the most I've had out of mine is c240, but I don't consciously drive economically and I've never put it in Eco mode. Winter range seems closer to 210 and if you're on a private road, at night, doing around 100mph, the range will drop to around 100-110 miles - so I've been told   .

The only thing I would say is that with the EV BIK ratcheting up over the next few years, that will have an impact on savings, so something with a lower list price may save you more than you think in yrs 3&4 - especially as it can carry you back into the £100k/60% tax trap, which I am sure you are all too well aware of!

[tunnie]

Build quality from the earlier ones remain on the Model 3 and Model Y.  They aren't really put together well, and some of the panel lines out of the factory are appalling.  But at £40k, they need to be considered as a cheap car, not a Bentley.  And at then end of the day, if its a 2/3yr lease, who cares, as long as its comfortable enough and does what you want.  Treat it as an appliance, and its not your problem to sort when bits drop off - hopefully not in the 2/3yr lease mind.

Even you wouldn't be able to get claimed range, and remember they prefer to spend most of their life between about 30% to 90% battery.  Also remember that home charging will likely give you only 5 hours of 7kW charging, so not enough to "fill" it from empty.  Shouldn't be a problem for commuting etc, unless things change, but in some cases you may not be able to fill it up enough to cover daily use, so as the week goes on, you may find yourself getting lower on charge....   ...or suck up peak rate charging and/or public charging, both of which blow the maths clean out of the water.

Addiitonally, I seem to recall you do a lot of the M3 on your commute.  Motorway speeds muller tha range.


Lastly, if your missus has to drive it about, don't underestimate the size of the things.  They don't look big, but compare width and length to that of your car .  Remember, driving back from the pub is definatly women's work.

Yes, noted on build, it felt ok to me on the one I test drove. I certainly would never buy second hand. But for me it would be new and not my problem to fix/service/maintain and if my miles rocket, then it's a no brainer.

I would be doing ~80 miles a day, if she does not get the bus. So enough to top-up via home charger overnight. As you say if I do a long road trip at the weekend, I would not be able to fill it in via a home charger, but maybe enough to do the work run.

Work EV charging is no longer free, but 20p kWH so about as cheap as you can get away from home.

On the test drive I thought I could live with it, it's not much to look at, but it's comfy enough, fast enough (AWD), quiet enough. I did not find the drive assistance to intrusive but it was very easy to disable. Autopilot appeared to be ok, used it on the M3 for a couple of junctions, could get used to having that.

What I would be spending on fuel alone in the BWW (assuming 30mpg) would be my 'net' loss for the entire car cost per month.

Also because the car comes out of my "sacrificed monies" I won't actually see that loss, in-fact because I'm not fuelling or running the BMW my "felt" income would actually increase.

[tunnie]

Nope, but then again if my miles rocket to 20k a year, I'd prefer the fact a Tesla would cost me just a fiver to "fill" it. Plus I never have to buy tyres or service or MOT it or do anything really! 

This is exactly where we got to. Between mine and my OH's commutes, school and nursery runs the iX is now sitting on 31250 miles since the end of June last year. In that time I've also had 3 punctures, all sorted without ever having to open my wallet. We are however kicking the cr@p out of our 4yr/80k mile lease though so I can see me buying myself a used EV for commuting and letting SWMBO have the iX as the family bus in the next 12 months or so.

So far I have noticed no degradation in range from when new. The iX has a claimed range of 257 miles and the most I've had out of mine is c240, but I don't consciously drive economically and I've never put it in Eco mode. Winter range seems closer to 210 and if you're on a private road, at night, doing around 100mph, the range will drop to around 100-110 miles - so I've been told   .

The only thing I would say is that with the EV BIK ratcheting up over the next few years, that will have an impact on savings, so something with a lower list price may save you more than you think in yrs 3&4 - especially as it can carry you back into the £100k/60% tax trap, which I am sure you are all too well aware of!

Yeah the BIK is going to be a sneaky bugger, it's ok now and has little affect but they are going to wack that up soon to claim some more lost tax.

Well aware of the 60% trap, hence my combined pension contributions now total 32% of my salary 

[tunnie]

The 60% is in some ways a silver cloud as it's forcing me to put more into the pension. If it was not there, I'm sure we would be spending it on junk we do not need!

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I think Tesla build quality has moved on in recent years.

Better more consistent shut lines and build quality better than the old Weetabix box of old......not a patch on the I-Pace though which is 'proper posh'