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Title: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 21 September 2025, 11:22:23
.......this time using what looks like a pair of 14 year old girls. :-X

https://x.com/DonnaLouise1212/status/1969655755969347916 (https://x.com/DonnaLouise1212/status/1969655755969347916)
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: YZ250 on 21 September 2025, 12:10:42
The British police are an embarrassment now. Half of them don’t even know the law, and they don’t care because it’s the tax payer that has to cough up when they are sued for yet another Section 26 breach, not the individual officer. Six weeks training and a uniform and they think they’re God.  ::)  Respect for British police is at an all time low. Until an officer(s) is held to account, this will continue. The other annoying thing is, when one cop has made an absolute tool of himself/herself, his/her colleagues will back them up even when they know they are wrong. The corruption is off the scale now and I can’t see an end to it in my lifetime.
As I’ve previously said, if you’re IN trouble phone a friend, if you WANT trouble phone the police.  ::)   The young police persons concerned should have requested written confirmation from whoever sent them so that when this is followed up, whoever sent them can look the mug and not them. As you can probably tell, I have little time for them, they have become a joke.  >:(

In saying that, there are some decent coppers out there but they are overshadowed by the corrupt coppers. There is also some amazing police work carried out behind the scenes, it’s just a shame that this work is tarnished by the other idiots.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 21 September 2025, 12:17:02
I also have no time for the police in 2025. The long march through the institutions means most of the new breed are woke and captured by left wing ideology.

Back in the day the coppers would give you a kicking for the slightest of things, but there was very little political bias behind it. It was just sport. ::)
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Raeturbo on 21 September 2025, 13:56:28
Definitely rather get a shoeing from an old fashioned copper than take all this shit from these arseholes in uniform these days
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 September 2025, 14:04:04
And they wonder why hundreds of thousands of ordinary Brits took to the streets of London last weekend!  ::)
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 21 September 2025, 14:50:37
We really are now living in the UKSSR. Its utterly outrageous and not enough people seem to reailise whats happening.
Personally I would have taken their badge numbers, then told them to far cough and slammed the door in their faces, but there would probably have been consequences to that too.
I despair at whats happened to this country.  ;(  ;(
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: STEMO on 21 September 2025, 15:36:40
I'm afraid this is utter tosh. That vid is heavily edited. Read the reason that the police needed to get the phone from the little cow, who had created a fake account and subjected someone to barrage of sexual and abusive posts.

So......fake news, Opti. Stay away from Twitter, you're too old to understand how it works.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: STEMO on 21 September 2025, 15:37:37
I think  ;D
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Raeturbo on 21 September 2025, 15:41:37
Again I say …..      https://youtu.be/q31WY0Aobro?feature=shared
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Doctor Gollum on 21 September 2025, 16:28:01
Fake news or not, a WPC in a Burka makes a mockery of the sanctity of law.

If you aren't allowed to believe in the very system you represent, then you've no business upholding it.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 21 September 2025, 16:33:00
I wonder if she abides by Sharia law ?  ::)

But yes, STEMO is correct (had to happen sometime  ;D ) its not really what the footage suggests.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 21 September 2025, 16:34:06
I'm afraid this is utter tosh. That vid is heavily edited. Read the reason that the police needed to get the phone from the little cow, who had created a fake account and subjected someone to barrage of sexual and abusive posts.

So......fake news, Opti. Stay away from Twitter, you're too old to understand how it works.

I wouldn't trust anything the police say. They arrested Father Ted writer the other week for an amusing tweet about kicking men in the balls if they use the women's toilet.

As for being too old....I'm decades younger than an old fossil like you. 8)



Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 21 September 2025, 17:10:44
I wonder if she abides by Sharia law ?  ::)

But yes, STEMO is correct (had to happen sometime  ;D ) its not really what the footage suggests.

Something like 85 sharia courts in the UK.

At present they can not overrule UK law...yet.

But in 20 years time who knows. :-\



Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: STEMO on 21 September 2025, 17:16:06
Dear me. Have you listened to yourself?
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 21 September 2025, 17:46:04
Dear me. Have you listened to yourself?

You've clearly been listening to James O'Brien, and agreeing with every single word. ;D ;D ;D :D
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 21 September 2025, 17:49:37
https://www.gbnews.com/news/sharia-law-job-advert-dwp-government-website-britain
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: STEMO on 21 September 2025, 18:04:14
Dear me. Have you listened to yourself?

You've clearly been listening to James O'Brien, and agreeing with every single word. ;D ;D ;D :D
I haven't been listening to anyone. I don't know who James or Brian are. I'm not the one who spends my time listening to/watching cods wallop on social media  :)
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 21 September 2025, 18:25:08
Dear me. Have you listened to yourself?

You've clearly been listening to James O'Brien, and agreeing with every single word. ;D ;D ;D :D
I haven't been listening to anyone. I don't know who James or Brian are. I'm not the one who spends my time listening to/watching cods wallop on social media :)

I suppose watching Cash in the attic and Homes under the hammer from 2013 are more your bag. >:D

But it's an age thing, I suppose.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 21 September 2025, 18:46:45
https://www.gbnews.com/news/sharia-law-job-advert-dwp-government-website-britain

I don't recall there being a vacancy for such a position when I was young. ::)
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: STEMO on 21 September 2025, 19:54:54
Dear me. Have you listened to yourself?

You've clearly been listening to James O'Brien, and agreeing with every single word. ;D ;D ;D :D
I haven't been listening to anyone. I don't know who James or Brian are. I'm not the one who spends my time listening to/watching cods wallop on social media :)

I suppose watching Cash in the attic and Homes under the hammer from 2013 are more your bag. >:D

But it's an age thing, I suppose.
Age thing, yes. A young lad such as yourself is better off getting involved in conspiracy theories and the like.  ;D ;D ;D

In a previous post you said ".......in 20 years time, who knows?".
You certainly won't  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: YZ250 on 21 September 2025, 20:04:56
I'm afraid this is utter tosh…..

Fair do’s.  :y
My criticism wasn’t aimed primarily at this story so what I wrote still stands.  :y 
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 21 September 2025, 22:15:19
(https://i.postimg.cc/P5pcFTKq/Police-Muppets.jpg)
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: ronnyd on 21 September 2025, 23:30:59
(https://i.postimg.cc/P5pcFTKq/Police-Muppets.jpg)
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 September 2025, 12:13:49
https://youtu.be/lx6tkkvWHOc?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/lx6tkkvWHOc?feature=shared)

An interesting point of view.

Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 September 2025, 12:21:21
(https://i.postimg.cc/P5pcFTKq/Police-Muppets.jpg)

I don't fancy yours much, Tig. :D ;D
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: YZ250 on 22 September 2025, 14:49:56
https://youtu.be/lx6tkkvWHOc?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/lx6tkkvWHOc?feature=shared)

An interesting point of view.

Obviously he knows the video is heavily edited but I think he’s aiming for the lack of warrant to enter and search. Unless they’re in pursuit of a subject, they should still apply for a warrant. They may well have had one and that part was edited out to make them look bad, but I’m equally sure that coppers today wouldn’t let a trivial matter such as legality stop them entering unlawfully.  ::)
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: YZ250 on 22 September 2025, 22:17:33
https://youtu.be/lx6tkkvWHOc?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/lx6tkkvWHOc?feature=shared)

An interesting point of view.

Obviously he knows the video is heavily edited but I think he’s aiming for the lack of warrant to enter and search. Unless they’re in pursuit of a subject, they should still apply for a warrant. They may well have had one and that part was edited out to make them look bad, but I’m equally sure that coppers today wouldn’t let a trivial matter such as legality stop them entering unlawfully.  ::)

So, a Subject Access Request was made for the body worn video and it apparently paints the coppers in an equally bad light.  ::)   ;D  The edited out bits were to remove personal information apparently. It may not even be the right girl, although I believe she is part of the offending group of girls, she may not have been the one who set up the fake profile.  The incident is being pursued now as policy was not followed, so I guess West Midlands Police will throw them under the bus.  :)
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Kevin Wood on 22 September 2025, 23:14:22
So, a Subject Access Request was made for the body worn video and it apparently paints the coppers in an equally bad light.  ::)   ;D  The edited out bits were to remove personal information apparently. It may not even be the right girl, although I believe she is part of the offending group of girls, she may not have been the one who set up the fake profile.  The incident is being pursued now as policy was not followed, so I guess West Midlands Police will throw them under the bus.  :)

Quite right too. Regardless of the particulars of this case, and granted that the video we saw had clearly been hacked about a bit, what was clear from what we did see is that this pair had near non-existent communication skills, and I'm pretty sure that, apart from anything else, means they're no use whatsoever in a uniform. Still, I'm sure they tick a few useful boxes. :-X
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Raeturbo on 23 September 2025, 00:04:02
Yep… empty ones, like their heads👍
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: YZ250 on 23 September 2025, 09:08:34

Quite right too. Regardless of the particulars of this case, and granted that the video we saw had clearly been hacked about a bit, what was clear from what we did see is that this pair had near non-existent communication skills, and I'm pretty sure that, apart from anything else, means they're no use whatsoever in a uniform. Still, I'm sure they tick a few useful boxes. :-X

West Midlands Police only came out of being in Special Measures in the latter half of last year so have clearly learnt very little since. They were in Special Measures due to officers telling lies when filing reports and using unnecessary use of force during questioning and arrests. On one occasion, three coppers stopped a driver, handcuffed him for no reason, told him his car was flagged and his car smelled of cannabis. They found nothing in his car but when they searched him they found his .....warrant card.  ;D  He was an off duty copper and reported them to IOPC. I doubt much happened as far as discipline/dismissal but it gives you an idea of why nobody trusts the police anymore.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 September 2025, 12:38:04
https://youtu.be/oPpdErRhE28?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/oPpdErRhE28?feature=shared)

This is an update.

Looks as though they have the wrong girl. There could be some compo coming. :y
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: STEMO on 23 September 2025, 12:43:08
https://youtu.be/oPpdErRhE28?feature=shared (https://youtu.be/oPpdErRhE28?feature=shared)

This is an update.

Looks as though they have the wrong girl. There could be some compo coming. :y
Oh dear. Have I got egg on my face?  ;D
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Raeturbo on 23 September 2025, 15:06:16
Yes you’re scrambled mate👍🤣
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Olympia5776 on 23 September 2025, 15:57:39
This whole "hurty words on the internet thing " is nothing short of shambolic .
It will never cease and will only expand to where it becomes a weapon of choice by all the bizzare minority groups that exist to cause chaos to further their "cause".
I cannot see any way where it will ever be controlled and all it will do is eat up police resources . I'm sure the police officers won't mind it though as it looks a pretty easy task to turn up at someones door and intimidate them into submission , no report , no court preparation, no further action and then onto the next one .....
Those videos by the Black Belt Barrister ( and Steven Barrett  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlT-O1q2UmU) are now fundamental viewing .
What kind of world is this ?
My old dad was a Police Sergeant , what he'd say about the force now would be interesting .
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 23 September 2025, 17:22:21
More two tier justice.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/muslim-who-attacked-koran-burner-spared-jail/ar-AA1N95Fc?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=68d2be664c75499897364f978d98b410&ei=14

It seems we now have blasphemy against Islam laws, just by the back door.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 September 2025, 18:26:35
Trump had some kind words to say about London and sharia law today. ::)

He is also a big fan of little Sadiq. :)
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: STEMO on 23 September 2025, 18:32:25
Trump had some kind words to say about London and sharia law today. ::)

He is also a big fan of little Sadiq. :)
Did he tell them all to lay off the paracetamol?  ;D ;D

Apparently, it's errrrrrrrrrr......not good  ;D
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Olympia5776 on 23 September 2025, 20:22:34
More two tier justice.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/muslim-who-attacked-koran-burner-spared-jail/ar-AA1N95Fc?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=68d2be664c75499897364f978d98b410&ei=14

It seems we now have blasphemy against Islam laws, just by the back door.

I have to say that this makes my piss boil .
" I was protecting my religion " . FFS we really are at the state where these ideologically driven neanderthals can shout " I'll kill you " and attempt it just because they feel they are a protected species .
I despise each and every one of them .
Islam is the scourge of the planet ,always has been and always will be and in time will destroy it .
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Raeturbo on 23 September 2025, 20:55:07
100%
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: ronnyd on 23 September 2025, 21:03:57
What's happened to "being tough on knife crime"?
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 23 September 2025, 22:29:46
What's happened to "being tough on knife crime"?

There are obviously two tiers of knife crime.   :-X
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 24 September 2025, 16:52:02
What's happened to "being tough on knife crime"?


Some elements within our society are cut more slack than others. :-X

Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 24 September 2025, 17:10:14
More two tier justice.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/muslim-who-attacked-koran-burner-spared-jail/ar-AA1N95Fc?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=68d2be664c75499897364f978d98b410&ei=14

It seems we now have blasphemy against Islam laws, just by the back door.

I have to say that this makes my piss boil .
" I was protecting my religion " . FFS we really are at the state where these ideologically driven neanderthals can shout " I'll kill you " and attempt it just because they feel they are a protected species .
I despise each and every one of them .
Islam is the scourge of the planet ,always has been and always will be and in time will destroy it .

The bloke who burned the book was charged with a racially motivated crime.
Since when was a religion a race ?  ::)
Basically, although we abolished blasphemy laws for Christianity about 15 years ago, we now have them for Islam, but just called something else.
We are in deep deep trouble.  :(
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Raeturbo on 24 September 2025, 20:20:26
I want Johnny for defence minister.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 25 September 2025, 18:06:57
Its being said that Starmer is going to announce compulsory ID cards for all over 18,s.  >:(
I think that will be his poll tax. It will finish him.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: ronnyd on 25 September 2025, 18:20:28
Its being said that Starmer is going to announce compulsory ID cards for all over 18,s.  >:(
I think that will be his poll tax. It will finish him.
If they're going to be digital, how will that work for people without the relevant tech?
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 25 September 2025, 18:55:51
Its being said that Starmer is going to announce compulsory ID cards for all over 18,s.  >:(
I think that will be his poll tax. It will finish him.

Over my dead body. Mixed with CBDC the government would have total control of our lives. :-\

Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Andy B on 25 September 2025, 20:00:49
Its being said that Starmer is going to announce compulsory ID cards for all over 18,s.  >:(
I think that will be his poll tax. It will finish him.
If they're going to be digital, how will that work for people without the relevant tech?

The practicalities of the scheme will be subject to a consultation, which will also look at how to make it work for those without a smartphone or passport.
 ::) ::) ie They haven't a clue.

without getting into politics, The Reform Party makes a good point ....

Reform UK has denounced the plan as a "cynical ploy to fool voters that something is being done about illegal immigration".

"It's laughable that those already breaking immigration law will suddenly comply, or that digital IDs will have any impact on illegal work," the party added.

"All it will do is impinge further on the freedoms of law-abiding Brits."
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Andy B on 25 September 2025, 20:03:30
Its being said that Starmer is going to announce compulsory ID cards for all over 18,s.  >:(
I think that will be his poll tax. It will finish him.

It looks like Andy Burnham is looking to step into his shoes ....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70190e0p6yo
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 25 September 2025, 23:20:18
He would love to (and would be no better than Starmer) but he isnt an MP.
If they engineer a by election in the near future,no matter where it is, they risk losing to Reform, so it wont be easy for him.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Raeturbo on 25 September 2025, 23:41:32
Let’s try our collective best to get reform in surely they can’t be anywhere near as bad🤷‍♂️
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 26 September 2025, 11:11:06
Let’s try our collective best to get reform in surely they can’t be anywhere near as bad🤷‍♂️

I can't see that working either, Nige will probably do his usual i.e. piss off as soon as the thing he has been bleating about, and promoting, rather than deliver on his shouting's (just like Brexit etc)
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: STEMO on 26 September 2025, 11:19:38
There's four years until the next general election, a lot can change before then. Personally, I think some of Farages policies are too Trumpian, but he might force the present government to change it's policies radically.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 September 2025, 11:43:18
I dont normally bother much with these petitions but Im definitely signing this one.
The scheme was only revealed in the media 24 hours ago and the petition has had 813000 signatures already.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194/signatures/new
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 September 2025, 12:26:05
I dont normally bother much with these petitions but Im definitely signing this one.
The scheme was only revealed in the media 24 hours ago and the petition has had 813000 signatures already.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194/signatures/new

Signed.

Throughout history left wing governments have wanted as much control and influence over the lives of the people as possible.

I like government to be as small as possible, and basically keep it's nose out of my life.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 September 2025, 12:31:11
Let’s try our collective best to get reform in surely they can’t be anywhere near as bad🤷‍♂️

I can't see that working either, Nige will probably do his usual i.e. piss off as soon as the thing he has been bleating about, and promoting, rather than deliver on his shouting's (just like Brexit etc)

I imagine the civil servants will block, frustrate, and oppose everything he tries to do.....and bury him under a mountain of DEI and minority rights.

Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Migalot on 26 September 2025, 13:12:26
I dont normally bother much with these petitions but Im definitely signing this one.
The scheme was only revealed in the media 24 hours ago and the petition has had 813000 signatures already.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194/signatures/new

Signed.

Throughout history left wing governments have wanted as much control and influence over the lives of the people as possible.

I like government to be as small as possible, and basically keep it's nose out of my life.

Agreed and also signed! :y
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: YZ250 on 26 September 2025, 13:44:48
I dont normally bother much with these petitions but Im definitely signing this one.
The scheme was only revealed in the media 24 hours ago and the petition has had 813000 signatures already.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194/signatures/new

Signed, although I dare say that the corrupt government will nobble it again like they did with the 'Get rid of Starmer' one.  ::)
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 September 2025, 14:02:25
I dont normally bother much with these petitions but Im definitely signing this one.
The scheme was only revealed in the media 24 hours ago and the petition has had 813000 signatures already.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194/signatures/new

Signed, although I dare say that the corrupt government will nobble it again like they did with the 'Get rid of Starmer' one.  ::)

I would expect nothing less. 8)
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 26 September 2025, 14:08:04
A major poll today says that if there was ana election tomorrow Farage would be PM.
I f that remains the same closer to the next election, the whole political establishment (regardless of political leanings) will move heaven & earth to stop it from happening.
Expect the worst dirty tricks campaign in living memory in the next few years.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 26 September 2025, 14:46:01
Back to the old bill. I served for years (mixture of response, traffic, and detective) and have always been fiercely pro police.

However, I think I got out at the right time (2023).

The whole system is broken. No resources to attend a burglary, but some areas (take Brighton) seemingly have plenty of cash to paint panda cars in rainbow colours and dance like clowns at pride marches.

The whole system is ficked. Most cops are now very young with zero life experience. I was once one of them - but at least then, there were experienced bobbies on the shift to keep the younger ones in check and help them develop.

Now, a cop who has served for thee years is considered “experienced”. Because all of the true experience and talent have left in droves due to how thankless the job became.

Most cops on the ground are hard working and mean well, but the more senior officers are too often politically motivated, and weaponise the junior officers to achieve their political goals.

The police and the judiciary are now used as a major government weapon. Look at Lucy Connolly… 3 years for a ranty Facebook post. I’ve prosecuted scary sexual predators for contact offending who have received less than this.

At the point I was calling it a day, there was talk of body worn video being compulsory for every single interaction, *and* senior officers (who haven’t worn a stab vest in decades) having the ability to remotely monitor what the PCs are doing and saying in real time.

A total removal of the ability for “proper coppering” especially with feral youth (from feral parents) needing a firm hand.

I’m glad I am out. It totally stinks now, up and down the country.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 September 2025, 15:33:00
Back to the old bill. I served for years (mixture of response, traffic, and detective) and have always been fiercely pro police.

However, I think I got out at the right time (2023).

The whole system is broken. No resources to attend a burglary, but some areas (take Brighton) seemingly have plenty of cash to paint panda cars in rainbow colours and dance like clowns at pride marches.

The whole system is ficked. Most cops are now very young with zero life experience. I was once one of them - but at least then, there were experienced bobbies on the shift to keep the younger ones in check and help them develop.

Now, a cop who has served for thee years is considered “experienced”. Because all of the true experience and talent have left in droves due to how thankless the job became.

Most cops on the ground are hard working and mean well, but the more senior officers are too often politically motivated, and weaponise the junior officers to achieve their political goals.

The police and the judiciary are now used as a major government weapon. Look at Lucy Connolly… 3 years for a ranty Facebook post. I’ve prosecuted scary sexual predators for contact offending who have received less than this.

At the point I was calling it a day, there was talk of body worn video being compulsory for every single interaction, *and* senior officers (who haven’t worn a stab vest in decades) having the ability to remotely monitor what the PCs are doing and saying in real time.

A total removal of the ability for “proper coppering” especially with feral youth (from feral parents) needing a firm hand.

I’m glad I am out. It totally stinks now, up and down the country.

Precisely. :y
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: YZ250 on 26 September 2025, 16:04:57
Back to the old bill. I served for years (mixture of response, traffic, and detective) and have always been fiercely pro police.

However, I think I got out at the right time (2023).
...........

On here, I've always held back my true thoughts on the police out of respect for you James. I was glad when you opted out of the force as it means that I can unleash my true feelings now.  :) ;D
Oh, and my criticism is not related to my driving.  ;D
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: STEMO on 26 September 2025, 16:07:26
A major poll today says that if there was ana election tomorrow Farage would be PM.
I f that remains the same closer to the next election, the whole political establishment (regardless of political leanings) will move heaven & earth to stop it from happening.
Expect the worst dirty tricks campaign in living memory in the next few years.
But there isn't an election today. As I said earlier, four years is a very long time. Putin might have melted us long before then.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 26 September 2025, 16:10:03
A major poll today says that if there was ana election tomorrow Farage would be PM.
I f that remains the same closer to the next election, the whole political establishment (regardless of political leanings) will move heaven & earth to stop it from happening.
Expect the worst dirty tricks campaign in living memory in the next few years.
But there isn't an election today. As I said earlier, four years is a very long time. Putin might have melted us long before then.

......or Farage snuffs it. Then what?


Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Raeturbo on 26 September 2025, 19:55:07
Well,  who trusts any of the other Co))s£ers  more than they trust Farage then?….. name them.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Raeturbo on 26 September 2025, 19:57:32
Hi James, hope you’re well mate👍 I’m so sorry for you having to speak about the service you worked for like that, but I’m glad you have put it here for us. We are certainly in dangerous times☹️
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 September 2025, 11:25:09
Hi James, hope you’re well mate👍 I’m so sorry for you having to speak about the service you worked for like that, but I’m glad you have put it here for us. We are certainly in dangerous times☹️

Some say similar to 1937-38.

We were not at war with Hitler, but with what was happening in Europe there was unease about what lay ahead.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 27 September 2025, 11:28:15
.....and you could argue that Starmer is similar to Chamberlain.

Weak and pathetic. :)

Probably only a matter of time before he waves a piece of paper in the air. ::)
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Raeturbo on 27 September 2025, 11:42:41
Certainly looks that way he’s a sleazy knob with no backbone, and that’s his good points.
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 27 September 2025, 13:09:07
.....and you could argue that Starmer is similar to Chamberlain.

Weak and pathetic. :)

Probably only a matter of time before he waves a piece of paper in the air. ::)

That Opti is known to have been the outward appearance, yes.  However, we know from the private papers of the time, versified by some historians, that Chamberlain was very uneasy about that "Peace in our time", as he made known on his arrival back at No. 10 Downing Street.  He was no fool and knew that Hitler was very devious and hell bent on war and pushing countries such as Britain and France to see how far he could take it,  just as Putin is now.  Chamberlain knew in 1938 that Great Britain was in no fit state to fight a major conflict as, like the rest of Europe, it had been demilitarising after the terrible blood letting of The Great War, contrary to what Hitler's Germany had been doing.  He knew if Germany tried to attack they would undoubtedly win.  He needed more time for Britain at least to prepare for a major conflict and re-invigorate it's industry to produce arms in bulk.  Once again, just like now in 2025.  The Munich Agreement bought Britain that precious time.  The British Government had already significantly increased war production from 1933-34 (post Hitler rising to power in 1933), but then substantially increasing it again with high level naval construction, then the ramped up production of the Hurricane and Spitfire RAF fighters from 1937-38 (the year of Munich and that "white sheet of paper" nonsense.

In short, Chamberlain knew in 1938 war was definitely coming, bought time for Great Britain, that of course Churchill benefited from in 1940 when he became PM.  That year the RAF with it's brave fighter pilots held off magnificently the Luftwaffe and degraded them, so by 15th September, the Germans were no longer confident that they could secure a victory and protect a German military invasion.  Operation Sea Lion was called off.  If The Munich Agreement and Chamberlain had not delayed what would be the start of WW2 as he did, it can be strongly argued Britain would have been over run by Hitler, just as the rest of Europe was.

Chamberlain was an old fashioned "Gentleman",  but no fool. ;)
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Raeturbo on 27 September 2025, 20:33:39
We will never be run over by anyone or anything we’re British👍👍👍
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Lizzie Zoom on 27 September 2025, 21:41:29
We will never be run over by anyone or anything we’re British👍👍👍

Quite right sir, quite right  :y :y ;D ;D
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Sir Tigger KC on 27 September 2025, 22:44:26
.....and you could argue that Starmer is similar to Chamberlain.

Weak and pathetic. :)

Probably only a matter of time before he waves a piece of paper in the air. ::)

That Opti is known to have been the outward appearance, yes.  However, we know from the private papers of the time, versified by some historians, that Chamberlain was very uneasy about that "Peace in our time", as he made known on his arrival back at No. 10 Downing Street.  He was no fool and knew that Hitler was very devious and hell bent on war and pushing countries such as Britain and France to see how far he could take it,  just as Putin is now.  Chamberlain knew in 1938 that Great Britain was in no fit state to fight a major conflict as, like the rest of Europe, it had been demilitarising after the terrible blood letting of The Great War, contrary to what Hitler's Germany had been doing.  He knew if Germany tried to attack they would undoubtedly win.  He needed more time for Britain at least to prepare for a major conflict and re-invigorate it's industry to produce arms in bulk.  Once again, just like now in 2025.  The Munich Agreement bought Britain that precious time.  The British Government had already significantly increased war production from 1933-34 (post Hitler rising to power in 1933), but then substantially increasing it again with high level naval construction, then the ramped up production of the Hurricane and Spitfire RAF fighters from 1937-38 (the year of Munich and that "white sheet of paper" nonsense.

In short, Chamberlain knew in 1938 war was definitely coming, bought time for Great Britain, that of course Churchill benefited from in 1940 when he became PM.  That year the RAF with it's brave fighter pilots held off magnificently the Luftwaffe and degraded them, so by 15th September, the Germans were no longer confident that they could secure a victory and protect a German military invasion.  Operation Sea Lion was called off.  If The Munich Agreement and Chamberlain had not delayed what would be the start of WW2 as he did, it can be strongly argued Britain would have been over run by Hitler, just as the rest of Europe was.

Chamberlain was an old fashioned "Gentleman",  but no fool. ;)

Starmer by contrast is a fool, but no gentleman.  ::)

He obviously did something to upset the Ukrainian rent boys!  :o   ;D
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: YZ250 on 02 October 2025, 09:45:23
Although I don’t watch normal TV (I only watch dramas and films) I see that Met Commissioner Mark Rowley has made an apology regarding corrupt police that prompted a Panorama TV investigation, apparently shown on TV last night.
Charing Cross Police Station, ‘Nine officers and one staff member had been suspended, with two more officers removed from frontline duties. There was incontrovertible evidence of racism, misogyny, anti-Muslim sentiment and bragging about excessive use of force during questioning or arrests of suspects’. The entire custody team were disbanded and the offences were all caught on camera according to Rowley. Other failings were other officers turning a blind eye to colleagues abusing use of power, which is a policy standards breach in itself.

Doesn’t exactly fill you will confidence that the police will act lawfully does it.  :-\
I have no idea of how in depth the Panorama programme went as it was on BBC, and my loathing of anything BBC prevents me from watching or listening to anything BBC related.  ::)
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 October 2025, 16:23:53
Although I don’t watch normal TV (I only watch dramas and films) I see that Met Commissioner Mark Rowley has made an apology regarding corrupt police that prompted a Panorama TV investigation, apparently shown on TV last night.
Charing Cross Police Station, ‘Nine officers and one staff member had been suspended, with two more officers removed from frontline duties. There was incontrovertible evidence of racism, misogyny, anti-Muslim sentiment and bragging about excessive use of force during questioning or arrests of suspects’. The entire custody team were disbanded and the offences were all caught on camera according to Rowley. Other failings were other officers turning a blind eye to colleagues abusing use of power, which is a policy standards breach in itself.

Doesn’t exactly fill you will confidence that the police will act lawfully does it.  :-\
I have no idea of how in depth the Panorama programme went as it was on BBC, and my loathing of anything BBC prevents me from watching or listening to anything BBC related.  ::)

Well, all the baddies were white British, and all the goodies were poor foreign souls who were blameless.

The BBC is quite good at demonstrating such things. ::)

Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: YZ250 on 02 October 2025, 17:30:46
……….
Well, all the baddies were white British, and all the goodies were poor foreign souls who were blameless.

The BBC is quite good at demonstrating such things. ::)

 ;D ;D

I heard that some of these police persons got seriously reprimanded for daring to agree with Tommy Robinson’s views.  ::)  ;D

When I worked unsociable shifts I would finish work at silly o’clock in the morning, so I got used to being stopped on my way home on a fairly regular basis, and it didn’t bother me at all as they have a job to do. The police that stopped my car were of varying attitudes but mostly they were polite and understanding when I explained my reason for being out so late/early.  :y
On one occasion though, the guy that stopped me asked to see my driving licence and proof of mot. I politely told him that I don’t carry any documents with me and he told me that it was law that I must carry my licence with me when driving. So, I told him to write me a ticket for failing to produce, and make himself look a plank when I challenged it or, write me a 7 day producer. As he spoke to his colleague, I called up the .gov vehicle check on my phone to show proof of tax and mot, askMID to show that the vehicle was insured and a very recent DVLA Licence check code from when I hired a van. When he returned to me he didn’t even look at them, he just said to drive carefully and off I went, no producer, no nothing.
He was not a young copper (who could claim to be unaware of the 7 day producer) so, as far as I was concerned he was lying. I’ve no idea if his colleague corrected him but full respect if he did. As I say, the other stops were all in good faith and polite.  :y
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: Migv6 le Frog Fan on 02 October 2025, 18:46:40
In 1978 just after I passed my driving test Iwas stopped by two coppers for having a tail light out.
Near the end of the conversation the Sarge then added that I had been speeding and he was doing me for it.
I knew I hadnt been speeding. I was in an HB Viva in thick fog on a road I had never seen before.
I told him this and they both just looked at me smugly and said its our word against yours.  >:(

1st April 2009 I was on two wheels on the M11, speed varying between 120 and 140.
A batenburged Volve came flying down the road behind me on blues & twos and when level pointed for me to pull over.
My life flashed before my eyes. I knew I was going to lose my licence.  :o
I had recently lost my job of 20 years which was close to home, but found another one 17 miles away, with no options for buses or trains for commuting.
After scaring the bejaysus out of me and informing me they had me at 125, the Copper had a bit of a chat and finished up with "this country is in a shit enough state these days without me taking a blokes livelyhood away from him. If you promise me you will slow down , I will call it 95 and you will get a £60 fine and three points. Are you happy with that ?"  :o
Needless to say I thanked him most profusely.

So it all balances out in the long run I suppose.  :)
Title: Re: The British Rozzers are at it again
Post by: YZ250 on 02 October 2025, 19:52:07
………..
I was stopped by two coppers for having a tail light out.
…………….

We were reminiscing at my brother-in-laws recent funeral and his driving habits cropped up. Quite a few years back he got stopped by the police for having a tail light out and he told the copper “If you tap the light, it will come back on”.  So, the copper tapped the light and sure enough the tail light came back on. He then asked my brother-in-law “So, based on that, if I tap your windscreen will a tax disc appear”.    ::)
That made us smile remembering that.