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Title: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 November 2011, 17:48:08
Just returned from a weekend away with Mrs Opti's Corsa 1.2 SXI.  For the most part  I drove it like a nun, so I thought I'd check out the economy. I calculated the petrol consumption by brimming the tank and setting the trip.

Upon our return, I could only squeeze 8.85 gallons in. The trip showed 399 miles......returning 45.08 MPG......Reasonable, but not as good as I expected....(My MV6 returns about 30/31 on the same journey......according to the trip computer (Are they accurate?)

On a couple of occasions I managed to max her out, both times the speedo indicated 109 MPH*.........Not too shoddy for only 1199cc and a paltry 75 BHP..... :y


* Performance figures recorded on a private road in the  Midlands... :)   
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 22 November 2011, 17:54:39
cars weight is a primary factor in consumption.. new model corsas around 1085 kg so 45 mpg normal imo..
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 November 2011, 18:19:57
cars weight is a primary factor in consumption.. new model corsas around 1085 kg so 45 mpg normal imo..


You're correct as usual, Cem. Mrs Opti's Corsa (2003) is much smaller and lighter than the bloated overweight 2011 model. I'm pretty sure it weighs less than 1000 KG... :y
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: henryd on 22 November 2011, 18:42:06
Just returned from a weekend away with Mrs Opti's Corsa 1.2 SXI.  For the most part  I drove it like a nun, so I thought I'd check out the economy. I calculated the petrol consumption by brimming the tank and setting the trip.

Upon our return, I could only squeeze 8.85 gallons in. The trip showed 399 miles......returning 45.08 MPG......Reasonable, but not as good as I expected....(My MV6 returns about 30/31 on the same journey......according to the trip computer (Are they accurate?)

On a couple of occasions I managed to max her out, both times the speedo indicated 109 MPH*.........Not too shoddy for only 1199cc and a paltry 75 BHP..... :y


* Performance figures recorded on a private road in the  Midlands... :)   

Was that the M6 :D :D :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 22 November 2011, 18:48:35
They are about 1000Kg kerb weight (slightly shy of it).

Remember that drag factor is a major factor in fuel comsumption at speed.
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 November 2011, 18:49:58
Just returned from a weekend away with Mrs Opti's Corsa 1.2 SXI.  For the most part  I drove it like a nun, so I thought I'd check out the economy. I calculated the petrol consumption by brimming the tank and setting the trip.

Upon our return, I could only squeeze 8.85 gallons in. The trip showed 399 miles......returning 45.08 MPG......Reasonable, but not as good as I expected....(My MV6 returns about 30/31 on the same journey......according to the trip computer (Are they accurate?)

On a couple of occasions I managed to max her out, both times the speedo indicated 109 MPH*.........Not too shoddy for only 1199cc and a paltry 75 BHP..... :y


* Performance figures recorded on a private road in the  Midlands... :)   

Was that the M6 :D :D :D ;D ;D


I couldn't possibly say, Henryd.

However, I can say that our route from Lincolnshire to Wales took us along the M1...M69.....M6.....and M42... ;)

Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 22 November 2011, 18:51:54
They are about 1000Kg kerb weight (slightly shy of it).

Remember that drag factor is a major factor in fuel comsumption at speed.


Why so weighty, Mark?. A Mk1 Escort was about 700/800 Kg... :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: henryd on 22 November 2011, 18:56:25
They are about 1000Kg kerb weight (slightly shy of it).

Remember that drag factor is a major factor in fuel comsumption at speed.


Why so weighty, Mark. A Mk1 Escort was about 700/800 Kg... :-\ :-\ :-\

But that didn't have airbags/ pretensioners/ abs etc
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 22 November 2011, 19:16:06
They are about 1000Kg kerb weight (slightly shy of it).

Remember that drag factor is a major factor in fuel comsumption at speed.


Why so weighty, Mark?. A Mk1 Escort was about 700/800 Kg... :-\ :-\ :-\

reason simple.. system.. car manufacturers and petrol producing companies were married long time ago ;D 
 
technically they can build lighter cars, but it costs more with lighter materials and wont consume enough fuel.. ;D
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: Martin_1962 on 23 November 2011, 09:25:43
I have done average of 80mph and 80mpg from a bike - on the same trip.
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: albitz on 23 November 2011, 09:30:36
Suzuki B120 ?  :D
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 23 November 2011, 11:16:19
They are about 1000Kg kerb weight (slightly shy of it).

Remember that drag factor is a major factor in fuel comsumption at speed.


Why so weighty, Mark?. A Mk1 Escort was about 700/800 Kg... :-\ :-\ :-\

reason simple.. system.. car manufacturers and petrol producing companies were married long time ago ;D 
 
technically they can build lighter cars, but it costs more with lighter materials and wont consume enough fuel.. ;D

As said, the weight is only one factor in the fuel consumption equation.

Mk1 Escort was about 800Kg but if I told you that the Corsa was wider, similar height and only slightly shorter yet had much improved safety systems, extra gears and fancy accesories such as central locking, front and rear wipers, electric screen washers, a radio, etc etc etc.....it all adds up.  ;D
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: jonnycool on 23 November 2011, 12:26:19
It's surprising just how much bigger cars have got when you look at it like that isn't it? I suppose less space was taken up by all the safety measures back then, what you saw is what you got :)
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: fiend61 on 23 November 2011, 12:30:08
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But that didn't have airbags
surely if its air it cant weigh much  ;D ;D ;D

reminds me of this-----if it wasnt for sponges how much water would be in the seas????

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 November 2011, 12:35:03
Suzuki B120 ?  :D



The legendary Bloop..... :y
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: GastronomicKleptomaniac on 23 November 2011, 19:59:44
They are about 1000Kg kerb weight (slightly shy of it).

Remember that drag factor is a major factor in fuel comsumption at speed.


Why so weighty, Mark?. A Mk1 Escort was about 700/800 Kg... :-\ :-\ :-\

Ignoring the fuel consumption, a lighter car will, suitably set up, go, handle and stop better. And if we stripped all of the safety equipment out, so the crumple zones were effectively your legs and nose... how many people would try their best to stay safe, knowing they haven't got fourteen bouncy castles and gadgetrickery to help them out?
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 November 2011, 20:17:00
They are about 1000Kg kerb weight (slightly shy of it).

Remember that drag factor is a major factor in fuel comsumption at speed.


According to the Corsa manual the kerb weight of a (2003 model) Corsa 1.2sxi 3 door is 1045 Kg.

Apparently, this includes a 68kg driver ......7Kg of luggage.....all fluids..... and a 90% full petrol tank.

Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: aaronjb on 23 November 2011, 21:04:04
They are about 1000Kg kerb weight (slightly shy of it).

Remember that drag factor is a major factor in fuel comsumption at speed.


According to the Corsa manual the kerb weight of a (2003 model) Corsa 1.2sxi 3 door is 1045 Kg.

Apparently, this includes a 68kg driver ......7Kg of luggage.....all fluids..... and a 90% full petrol tank.

A driver weight my cars can only dream of  :-[ Who weighs 68Kg these days, anyway? Apart from Tunnie, that is. ;D
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 November 2011, 22:13:00
They are about 1000Kg kerb weight (slightly shy of it).

Remember that drag factor is a major factor in fuel comsumption at speed.


According to the Corsa manual the kerb weight of a (2003 model) Corsa 1.2sxi 3 door is 1045 Kg.

Apparently, this includes a 68kg driver ......7Kg of luggage.....all fluids..... and a 90% full petrol tank.

A driver weight my cars can only dream of  :-[ Who weighs 68Kg these days, anyway? Apart from Tunnie, that is. ;D


89Kg for me, Aaron...(On the Doc's scales last week) Informed me I'm overweight by about a stone and a half. I'm six-one.... :-\ :-\
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: aaronjb on 23 November 2011, 22:37:29
89Kg for me, Aaron...(On the Doc's scales last week) Informed me I'm overweight by about a stone and a half. I'm six-one.... :-\ :-\

If it makes you feel better, I'm not far off two of you. I'd break the doc's scales..
Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 23 November 2011, 23:50:37
89Kg for me, Aaron...(On the Doc's scales last week) Informed me I'm overweight by about a stone and a half. I'm six-one.... :-\ :-\

If it makes you feel better, I'm not far off two of you. I'd break the doc's scales..


Tell me you're eight feet tall, Aaron.... :-\



Title: Re: 45 MPG.......109 MPH
Post by: aaronjb on 23 November 2011, 23:55:01
89Kg for me, Aaron...(On the Doc's scales last week) Informed me I'm overweight by about a stone and a half. I'm six-one.... :-\ :-\

If it makes you feel better, I'm not far off two of you. I'd break the doc's scales..

Tell me you're eight feet tall, Aaron.... :-\

Ah, if only.. I could have had a great career in basketball, were that the case (oh, and if I possessed any ball handling skills whatsoever). But no, I'm a wee 5'10".