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Title: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: Omega32E on 30 November 2011, 21:04:01
New checks will include inspecting a series of dashboard warning lights telling drivers if there is a problem with their airbags, tyre pressures, power steering and main headlight beam. Power steering will be subject to inspection with the MOT demanding a minimum level of fluid. Anti lock brakes and electronic stability control systems will also be checked.

The new checks will also ensure the new generation powerful headlights do not dazzle oncoming motorists.

Source: http://www.motoring.co.uk/car-news/mot-testing-to-meet-tougher-standards_36817?utm_source=motoring.co.uk&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=news

Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: Omega_Dan on 30 November 2011, 21:39:44
I suppose from a safety point of view it makes sense. Tyre pressures seem a little harsh with the exception of punctures maybe. Just more for us to think about MOT time.
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 November 2011, 22:02:21
I suppose from a safety point of view it makes sense. Tyre pressures seem a little harsh with the exception of punctures maybe. Just more for us to think about MOT time.

Problem is, gone are the days when the average driver could be relied upon to check levels and tyre pressures, so we all have to pay extra, just to ensure they are checked at least once a year. ::)
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: Omega_Dan on 30 November 2011, 22:18:58
I suppose from a safety point of view it makes sense. Tyre pressures seem a little harsh with the exception of punctures maybe. Just more for us to think about MOT time.

Problem is, gone are the days when the average driver could be relied upon to check levels and tyre pressures, so we all have to pay extra, just to ensure they are checked at least once a year. ::)

Agreed Kevin.  ;)
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: Lazydocker on 30 November 2011, 22:19:16
I suppose from a safety point of view it makes sense. Tyre pressures seem a little harsh with the exception of punctures maybe. Just more for us to think about MOT time.

Problem is, gone are the days when the average driver could be relied upon to check levels and tyre pressures, so we all have to pay extra, just to ensure they are checked at least once a year. ::)
Indeed... I know of several people who wouldn't do any form of check/maintenance on their vehicle between MOT's if I didn't do it for them ::)
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: Entwood on 30 November 2011, 22:21:24
As I understand it .. tyre pressures themselves will NOT be checked ... but if you have an on-board pressure sensing system it MUST work .. correctly .... on with ignition then out when engine running, same will apply to ALL on-board self-testing systems.

For us that means the EML bulb must be fitted and working .....

This is  how my MOT man explained it to me .. :)
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 November 2011, 22:23:03
I suppose from a safety point of view it makes sense. Tyre pressures seem a little harsh with the exception of punctures maybe. Just more for us to think about MOT time.

Problem is, gone are the days when the average driver could be relied upon to check levels and tyre pressures, so we all have to pay extra, just to ensure they are checked at least once a year. ::)
Indeed... I know of several people who wouldn't do any form of check/maintenance on their vehicle between MOT's if I didn't do it for them ::)

Yep. I'd say that most of my mates, those who are petrol heads aside, view any effort or expense lavished on a car that hasn't actually stopped or failed an MOT to be a total waste of money. ::)
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: Kevin Wood on 30 November 2011, 22:24:17
For us that means the EML bulb nmust be fitted and working .....

.. and cat efficiency codes cleared round the corner from the test centre. ::)
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: Webby the Bear on 01 December 2011, 00:15:14
So presumably  the cost of the test will increase from the maximum £54 (or around that)???

Why do I smell a rat with this? I mean, yes, those sensors should be working but to test them is unfairly assuming the owner is reliant on them? Therefore treating them unfairly? Sounds like a cash-cow to me?!?
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: tunnie on 01 December 2011, 09:37:50
For us that means the EML bulb nmust be fitted and working .....

.. and cat efficiency codes cleared round the corner from the test centre. ::)

Or get a pink to move the sensors  :D
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: fiend61 on 01 December 2011, 09:47:49
basically then the new mot laws are---

if you have it it has to work !!!!!

i know alot of it is commonsense but i personally know several people who have never looked under a bonnet and totally rely on the car to tell them if something is wrong which i think is becoming increasingly more common, so in this instance i think the new laws are spot on  :y
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: lee4206 on 01 December 2011, 22:09:51
For us that means the EML bulb nmust be fitted and working .....

.. and cat efficiency codes cleared round the corner from the test centre. ::)

Engine management light isn't included in the new items.
For a full list of new editions go to  http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/publications/specialnotices/2011specialnotices.htm.          read special notice 09-11  that's the official updates we testers go by .
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: tgm147 on 02 December 2011, 00:22:07
Borrowed a mate of mines ramps the other day to do an oil change. He's an MOT tester and has been for years - said from next year HIDs will be a fail too. Shame that. Will people just be swapping them out for normal bulbs before the test and refitting or leaving them in and hoping for the best?

My car is almost there, got the headlight washers. Self leveling and I'll be sorted. Although I begrudge spending money on something like that when the lights are perfectly aligned and don't dazzle anyone with them being in proper projector lenses too.
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: Vamps on 02 December 2011, 00:31:27
basically then the new mot laws are---

if you have it it has to work !!!!!

i know alot of it is commonsense but i personally know several people who have never looked under a bonnet and totally rely on the car to tell them if something is wrong which i think is becoming increasingly more common, so in this instance i think the new laws are spot on  :y

Because that is how they want us to think, cant work on our cars anymore, all computer controlled, none of the old checks, just rely on the computer..... >:(
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: Webby the Bear on 02 December 2011, 01:06:00
basically then the new mot laws are---

if you have it it has to work !!!!!

i know alot of it is commonsense but i personally know several people who have never looked under a bonnet and totally rely on the car to tell them if something is wrong which i think is becoming increasingly more common, so in this instance i think the new laws are spot on  :y

Because that is how they want us to think, cant work on our cars anymore, all computer controlled, none of the old checks, just rely on the computer..... >:(

i have to agree vamps....

i was talking to my old man the other day who ws basically saying how everyone years ago was under the bonnet of their cars working but now ''you can't do anything cos its all computers''. thats clearly 'dangle berries' but its what people are made to believe.
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: azza_126 on 02 December 2011, 07:24:27
Borrowed a mate of mines ramps the other day to do an oil change. He's an MOT tester and has been for years - said from next year HIDs will be a fail too. Shame that. Will people just be swapping them out for normal bulbs before the test and refitting or leaving them in and hoping for the best?

My car is almost there, got the headlight washers. Self leveling and I'll be sorted. Although I begrudge spending money on something like that when the lights are perfectly aligned and don't dazzle anyone with them being in proper projector lenses too.

if the hid's (aftermarket bulb kits) dont have self leveing headlights and washers there classed as illigal anyway but im a tester iv got those kits on my car and tbh i wouldnt fail them to me there just brighter bulbs
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: Galahad on 02 December 2011, 10:29:06
Isn't Towbar electrics testing also coming out as well?

If you have a towbar fitted with electrics, the electrics must work properly.
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: Auto Addict on 02 December 2011, 10:32:15
Isn't Towbar electrics testing also coming out as well?

If you have a towbar fitted with electrics, the electrics must work properly.

Makes sense.
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: Entwood on 02 December 2011, 11:28:38
Isn't Towbar electrics testing also coming out as well?

If you have a towbar fitted with electrics, the electrics must work properly.

Unfortunately .. not quite ... :(

Only those of us with modern 13 pin electrics, so probably less than 5 years old, will be checked.

All the chancers with 12N/12S systems that are ancient, and more prone to problems, will not be checked.

Targeting the "wrong" area IMHO .. if tow-bar electrics are to be checked .... then ALL should be checked .. not just the easy to do ones.

Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: Auto Addict on 02 December 2011, 11:54:47
Isn't Towbar electrics testing also coming out as well?

If you have a towbar fitted with electrics, the electrics must work properly.

Unfortunately .. not quite ... :(

Only those of us with modern 13 pin electrics, so probably less than 5 years old, will be checked.

All the chancers with 12N/12S systems that are ancient, and more prone to problems, will not be checked.

Targeting the "wrong" area IMHO .. if tow-bar electrics are to be checked .... then ALL should be checked .. not just the easy to do ones.

I'm a 'chancer', but I keep the electrics in tip top condition. :P
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: Chris_H on 02 December 2011, 12:35:09
basically then the new mot laws are---

if you have it it has to work !!!!!

i know alot of it is commonsense but i personally know several people who have never looked under a bonnet and totally rely on the car to tell them if something is wrong which i think is becoming increasingly more common, so in this instance i think the new laws are spot on  :y

Because that is how they want us to think, cant work on our cars anymore, all computer controlled, none of the old checks, just rely on the computer..... >:(

i have to agree vamps....

i was talking to my old man the other day who ws basically saying how everyone years ago was under the bonnet of their cars working but now ''you can't do anything cos its all computers''. thats clearly 'dangle berries' but its what people are made to believe.
Maybe (http://www.elektor.com/news/tamper-proof-electronic-control-units-for-cars.2015478.lynkx)
Title: Re: New MOT rules from Jan 12
Post by: Kevin Wood on 02 December 2011, 12:36:44
Even after all these new rules we'll still have wannabe drifters driving round on the public roads with welded up diffs, of course. (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26795734/Smilies/bangshead.gif)