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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Varche on 06 December 2011, 12:43:49
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Been a lot on the news about this again. Another company may go under.
Quality of care constantly being questioned. If it is a truism that people are going to live longer and longer then we are going to have to overhaul and improve the whole old folk home scenario.
How hard can it be when the recipients are paying around 600 pounds a WEEK?. You could stay in a good hotel for half that.
I have an uncle who resides in one. Never goes out except when a family member goes round, his basement room window faces a brick wall, He hides in a communal corner as he views the other inmates as being loonies, perhaps with justification.
Perhaps instead of building yet more houses with a proportion being laughably described as affordable, more purose built well designed "care" homes should be built to encourage widows to leave their up to 4 bedroom houses they can't manage to go somewhere sheltered or more appropriate.
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Been a lot on the news about this again. Another company may go under.
Quality of care constantly being questioned. If it is a truism that people are going to live longer and longer then we are going to have to overhaul and improve the whole old folk home scenario.
How hard can it be when the recipients are paying around 600 pounds a WEEK?. You could stay in a good hotel for half that.
I have an uncle who resides in one. Never goes out except when a family member goes round, his basement room window faces a brick wall, He hides in a communal corner as he views the other inmates as being loonies, perhaps with justification.
Perhaps instead of building yet more houses with a proportion being laughably described as affordable, more purose built well designed "care" homes should be built to encourage widows to leave their up to 4 bedroom houses they can't manage to go somewhere sheltered or more appropriate.
My mother is 91, diagnosed as showing signs of Altzheimers ( paranoid about certain non events) but will not move out of her flat. I have checked for homes round here, although she refuses to move out point blank, the best I can find is £815 per week !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely ludicrous >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Its a national disgrace.A civilised society should take good care of its elderly folk.It used to be that they were considered worthy of respect,but it often seems that they are a burden now.Something needs to be done to sort this shambles out. >:(
That said,it used to be the norm for families to look after their elderly members,but that has changed and has a lot to do with the situation we have arrived at. ;)
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My Gran passed away 2 years ago and she lived in one of those assisted communal living for OAPs. Despite the fact it costs the same as a normal flat we cant sell the ruddy thing so it lies there, unused.
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Once again we see the true cost of living in 'Bottom line Britain' - it'll soon be that you'll have to stump-up for merely having the temerity to open your own front door.
This is a country where greed and the disregard for the plight of others reign supreme - it's a bloody disgrace, that's what it is.
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Once again we see the true cost of living in 'Bottom line Britain' - it'll soon be that you'll have to stump-up for merely having the temerity to open your own front door.
This is a country where greed and the disregard for the plight of others reign supreme - it's a bloody disgrace, that's what it is.
That would be easily solved. Shopping via the Internet and deliveries through a cat flap. Any waste could be minced up and flushed down the loo. 200 channels of TV plus on demand absolutely no need to go out. ;D ;D ;D
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I find it amazing that we can't properly look after our own elderly, yet at the same time give £millions in foreign aid, soon to enshrined in law. >:( >:(
It would be better that a percentage of our GDP is commited to building good care homes with the facilities, and staff to look after those who have contributed to our society and are in need :y :y
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I find it amazing that we can't properly look after our own elderly, yet at the same time give £millions in foreign aid, soon to enshrined in law. >:( >:(
It would be better that a percentage of our GDP is commited to building good care homes with the facilities, and staff to look after those who have contibuted to our society and are in need :y :y
Yes, I quite agree with you Cleggy. :y
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Once again we see the true cost of living in 'Bottom line Britain' - it'll soon be that you'll have to stump-up for merely having the temerity to open your own front door.
This is a country where greed and the disregard for the plight of others reign supreme - it's a bloody disgrace, that's what it is.
That would be easily solved. Shopping via the Internet and deliveries through a cat flap. Any waste could be minced up and flushed down the loo. 200 channels of TV plus on demand absolutely no need to go out. ;D ;D ;D
Do you know V, I could take you to someone who lives like that - really, within 5 minutes drive from here - although they do have the trouble of opening the front door (which I know to be a right pain in the arse for them) as there is no cat-flap fitted to it?
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Once again we see the true cost of living in 'Bottom line Britain' - it'll soon be that you'll have to stump-up for merely having the temerity to open your own front door.
This is a country where greed and the disregard for the plight of others reign supreme - it's a bloody disgrace, that's what it is.
That would be easily solved. Shopping via the Internet and deliveries through a cat flap. Any waste could be minced up and flushed down the loo. 200 channels of TV plus on demand absolutely no need to go out. ;D ;D ;D
I think you just described my life.. oh dear.
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Once again we see the true cost of living in 'Bottom line Britain' - it'll soon be that you'll have to stump-up for merely having the temerity to open your own front door.
This is a country where greed and the disregard for the plight of others reign supreme - it's a bloody disgrace, that's what it is.
That would be easily solved. Shopping via the Internet and deliveries through a cat flap. Any waste could be minced up and flushed down the loo. 200 channels of TV plus on demand absolutely no need to go out. ;D ;D ;D
I think you just described my life.. oh dear.
I hope you took the trouble to have a cat-flap fitted Aa - after if something's worth doing...... ;D ;D ;D
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Its a national disgrace.A civilised society should take good care of its elderly folk.It used to be that they were considered worthy of respect,but it often seems that they are a burden now.Something needs to be done to sort this shambles out. >:(
That said,it used to be the norm for families to look after their elderly members,but that has changed and has a lot to do with the situation we have arrived at. ;)
You are right Albs, thing is, in the olden days women stayed at home, toilets were on the ground floor ( in or out) so old people could often stay with relatives to a degree.
The problem we have is that mothers flat is left 'in trust' by my stepfather, and if she moved out, the flat has to be sold and the capital invested.....the dividends from these investments go toward her upkeep. A lot of faffing about >:( My lifestyle, as my profile shows, is that of being here, there, and everywhere, and also having the wife's 91 year old mother to look out for also. We cannot spend all our time looking after both mothers full stop. :(
She lives in a council flat...'warden facilities', which are a joke. Once upon a time, the wardens lived on site, and did everything for the old folks....shopping, daily visits, etc, etc, etc. Now....the warden !! covers a number of sites, does not reside at any of them. The 'daily visit' now consists of a voice from the speaker on the wall a quick few words from central control, wherever that is, and that is it. Health and safety are causing hell...Fire doors and closures have been fitted to all flats...they are so heavy the old people can't open them. Some have had the closures removed so they can open their doors, and now the council are kicking off. >:( >:(
Another instance....mother in law did not feel too good, warden just happened to be visiting site so knocked on the door, got no reply so used her pass key. Mother in law in bed, asked warden for a glass of water, got told not allowed to do that (H & S), so m-i-l got out of bed and went to kitchen , got a drink and went back to bed while the warden stood and watched. >:( >:( >:(
What a load of total crap this country is >:(
As a footnote...my mother was in the forces in the war...was serving in London during the Blitz....but gets no recognition whatsoever for her efforts for this glorious country of ours >:( >:( >:( >:(
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You have my sympathy mate.I live in Essex,my Dad lives In Northern Ireland.My sisters are nearby but have busy lives.
He feels lonely and I feel guilty. :'(
Dad lives in sheltered accomadation with an off site warden. Wareden is nice, friendly helpful - but only there for a few minutes in the mornings and available if emergency cord is pulled. :(
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my grandad used to go into a care home for a month or so at a time more to give my nan a rest from looking after him as she was a bit poorly this was a few years ago and it cost my dad £1400 a week probably was a bit higher being in london
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On the up side of the coin, my MiL has recently moved into residential Council care and she is looked after 24/7, meals etc etc costs her her weekly state pension, less twenty quid a week back as 'pocket money' for getting the hair done, papers etc.
GP attends each week and holds a surgery, hairdresser at least fortnightly if not weekly, all meals prepped & served and cleaned up afterwards, laundry done and personal care looked after Choice of whatever daily activity is ongoing or veging in front of the telly, knitting, reading, jigsaws etc or out and about with family or whatever.
Overall, happy with whats ongoing for her TBH so its not all doom and gloom out there.... :y
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My mother, coming up to 104 (and counting) lives in her own home and gets 2 hours of care a week, doesn't qualify for more as she doesn't meet the criteria!
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my grandad used to go into a care home for a month or so at a time more to give my nan a rest from looking after him as she was a bit poorly this was a few years ago and it cost my dad £1400 a week probably was a bit higher being in london
This is a good idea...apart from the expense.
I have suggested this to my mother, but its a total waste of time......I thought this could be a way of prising her out of her flat, suggesting it would be like a holiday, new friends, etc.
We now have Christmas approaching, and this is another battle to deal with. :(
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My mother, coming up to 104 (and counting) lives in her own home and gets 2 hours of care a week, doesn't qualify for more as she doesn't meet the criteria!
This just beggars belief that a woman of that age is expected to go through life the same as, say, a twenty one year living in their own flat >:( >:( >:( >:(
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My grandad is 81 and now has alzhiemers (sp?) hes been moved twice to differant homes which never does him any good, the last one was £700 a week, he was being left in the same clothes, they were never washed properly or ironed (he was always very smart), no one to talk to, never went out, so my mother was running around left right and centre tryin to look after him, plus my nan who now lives on her own in a differant place and work!
But, she recently found a really good home, the staff are great, they take them out a couple times a week to differant places, hes always dressed smart, they are very understanding, especialy when its 2am and he often thinks hes 22 works in a nightclub and wants to know how much this hotels costing! My nan is currently on a list waiting to move in aswell. Its really crap how until you have had all the upheaval and trying to settle them in until you find out if the home is actualy any good! :(
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My mother, coming up to 104 (and counting) lives in her own home and gets 2 hours of care a week, doesn't qualify for more as she doesn't meet the criteria!
disgraceful who sets the ridiculous criteria and nearly 104 good luck to your mum :y
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On the up side of the coin, my MiL has recently moved into residential Council care and she is looked after 24/7, meals etc etc costs her her weekly state pension, less twenty quid a week back as 'pocket money' for getting the hair done, papers etc.
GP attends each week and holds a surgery, hairdresser at least fortnightly if not weekly, all meals prepped & served and cleaned up afterwards, laundry done and personal care looked after Choice of whatever daily activity is ongoing or veging in front of the telly, knitting, reading, jigsaws etc or out and about with family or whatever.
Overall, happy with whats ongoing for her TBH so its not all doom and gloom out there.... :y
That sounds more like it should be. Maybe things are different and better in Scotland ( and I am not wanting to start a fight over that). I think my uncle pays until his considerable wealth reaches the figure of 16k (very soon) when he stops paying or at least paying so much. Very sad after he was frugal all his life. I've said this before but in Spain as part of getting your dole you can do service in the community. For the women that involves helping the elderly who mostly live at home. They take them out shopping, for walks, do housework, be a companion and so on. Here everyone knows everyone so it works. In England it would be a charter to rob people blind I suspect.
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My Grandmother worked all her life from the age of 14 till when she retired at the age of 63 all those years in the same place British Shoe in Leicester, my Grandfather died in 1975 and she remarried in 1986, 10 years latter her second husband died. She then lived in there semi detached which was bought and paid for on her own with her own pension and savings. At the age of 90 she was moved to a care home where she died a few years latter. In that time she was completely wiped out, house gone savings gone the lot all she had left to her name was a bed a wardrobe a small tv a few clothes and a room that was 10 by 8, 50 odd working years (inc the war years) paying tax and NI and that was the end result. God save the Queen and the great British Empire - yeah right.
Another kick in the teeth for the working man / fleeced by the greedy to the very end and beyond.
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My Grandmother worked all her life from the age of 14 till when she retired at the age of 63 all those years in the same place British Shoe in Leicester, my Grandfather died in 1975 and she remarried in 1986, 10 years latter her second husband died. She then lived in there semi detached which was bought and paid for on her own with her own pension and savings. At the age of 90 she was moved to a care home where she died a few years latter. In that time she was completely wiped out, house gone savings gone the lot all she had left to her name was a bed a wardrobe a small tv a few clothes and a room that was 10 by 8, 50 odd working years (inc the war years) paying tax and NI and that was the end result. God save the Queen and the great British Empire - yeah right.
Another kick in the teeth for the working man / fleeced by the greedy to the very end and beyond.
Another kick in the teeth for the working man / fleeced by the greedy to the very end and beyond
A truth so sadly evident in this country - as a matter of fact it is one of the finest examples of the 'top-down society' where the maxim of 'opps you, I'm alright' is held paramount by those seeking to attain, maintain or advance their position irrespective of the cost to others.
Being obliged to pay for everything but the air we breathe (presently) we're getting as bad as the USA, where money is king and it’s tough titty to those who can't afford to pay the price.
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Being obliged to pay for everything but the air we breathe (presently) we're getting as bad as the USA, where money is king and it’s tough titty to those who can't afford to pay the price.
Agreed. How long before we too start shunning public provision of even healthcare because "I'm all right. I've got medical insurance." >:(
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My mother in law is just about to go into a nursing home - £1000 per week.
All that I could say or feel has already been said on this thread. It is a kick in the face for how people with solid values and principles find the end of life scenario almost to have been pointless.
The stress of it all can of course split families - those living nearby suffer much of the care/visting burden and yet they do not want the loved one to move away - so you can get a sort of blame culture. Family members can be off work sick with the stress and families are in danger of imploding in some cases which means the loved one departs this world in the unhappy state of knowing that the family they watched grow are at each others throats at the end of life.
I went to my neighbour's funeral yesterday and it was so nice to see the whole family at one in celebrating his life - although Ron decided to bypass the care home bit and died very quickly.
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On the up side of the coin, my MiL has recently moved into residential Council care and she is looked after 24/7, meals etc etc costs her her weekly state pension, less twenty quid a week back as 'pocket money' for getting the hair done, papers etc.
GP attends each week and holds a surgery, hairdresser at least fortnightly if not weekly, all meals prepped & served and cleaned up afterwards, laundry done and personal care looked after Choice of whatever daily activity is ongoing or veging in front of the telly, knitting, reading, jigsaws etc or out and about with family or whatever.
Overall, happy with whats ongoing for her TBH so its not all doom and gloom out there.... :y
She is one of the lucky ones, someone at some point decided that such homes should be privatised and most council ones are now closed, where social services pay it costs them more.....Same with private Children's homes and private foster carers..... >:( >:( >:(
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On the up side of the coin, my MiL has recently moved into residential Council care and she is looked after 24/7, meals etc etc costs her her weekly state pension, less twenty quid a week back as 'pocket money' for getting the hair done, papers etc.
GP attends each week and holds a surgery, hairdresser at least fortnightly if not weekly, all meals prepped & served and cleaned up afterwards, laundry done and personal care looked after Choice of whatever daily activity is ongoing or veging in front of the telly, knitting, reading, jigsaws etc or out and about with family or whatever.
Overall, happy with whats ongoing for her TBH so its not all doom and gloom out there.... :y
She is one of the lucky ones, someone at some point decided that such homes should be privatised and most council ones are now closed, where social services pay it costs them more.....Same with private Children's homes and private foster carers..... >:( >:( >:(
We know she is one of the lucky one, so to speak. Only difference was that F & MiL were staunch labourites, earning every penny, saved befoe spending, no tick, paid the council for their house all their days. When she was left on her own, no state benefits, no rent rebate, no discount on Council Tax etc etc, unlike some of the welfare spongers who think that freebies are a right of passage.
As said, it takes all sorts and I know that there is a limit on savings/assets and she would have had to sell her home to pay for accomodation but as its Council owned, does not apply.
The whole shamoozle regarding care of the elderly in this country really is one ginormous fustercluck, sadly.....