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[Varche]

Been a lot on the news about this again. Another company may go under.

Quality of care constantly being questioned. If it is a truism that people are going to live longer and longer then we are going to have to overhaul and improve the whole old folk home scenario.

How hard can it be when the recipients are paying around 600 pounds a WEEK?. You could stay in a good hotel for half that.

I have an uncle who resides in one. Never goes out except when a family member goes round, his basement room window faces a brick wall, He hides in a communal corner as he views the other inmates as being loonies, perhaps with justification.

Perhaps instead of building yet more houses with a proportion being laughably described as affordable, more purose built well designed "care" homes should be built to encourage widows to leave their up to 4 bedroom houses they can't manage to go somewhere sheltered or more appropriate.

[Terbs]

Been a lot on the news about this again. Another company may go under.

Quality of care constantly being questioned. If it is a truism that people are going to live longer and longer then we are going to have to overhaul and improve the whole old folk home scenario.

How hard can it be when the recipients are paying around 600 pounds a WEEK?. You could stay in a good hotel for half that.

I have an uncle who resides in one. Never goes out except when a family member goes round, his basement room window faces a brick wall, He hides in a communal corner as he views the other inmates as being loonies, perhaps with justification.

Perhaps instead of building yet more houses with a proportion being laughably described as affordable, more purose built well designed "care" homes should be built to encourage widows to leave their up to 4 bedroom houses they can't manage to go somewhere sheltered or more appropriate.

My mother is 91, diagnosed as showing signs of Altzheimers ( paranoid about certain non events) but will not move out of her flat. I have checked for homes round here, although she refuses to move out point blank, the best I can find is £815 per week !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely ludicrous

[albitz]

Its a national disgrace.A civilised society should take good care of its elderly folk.It used to be that they were considered worthy of respect,but it often seems that they are a burden now.Something needs to be done to  sort this shambles out.
That said,it used to be the norm for families to look after their elderly members,but that has changed and has a lot to do with the situation we have arrived at.

[Gaffers]

My Gran passed away 2 years ago and she lived in one of those assisted communal living for OAPs.  Despite the fact it costs the same as a normal flat we cant sell the ruddy thing so it lies there, unused.

[Dishevelled Den]

Once again we see the true cost of living in 'Bottom line Britain' - it'll soon be that you'll have to stump-up for merely having the temerity to open your own front door.

This is a country where greed and the disregard for the plight of others reign supreme - it's a bloody disgrace, that's what it is.

[Varche]

Once again we see the true cost of living in 'Bottom line Britain' - it'll soon be that you'll have to stump-up for merely having the temerity to open your own front door.

This is a country where greed and the disregard for the plight of others reign supreme - it's a bloody disgrace, that's what it is.

That would be easily solved. Shopping via the Internet and deliveries through a cat flap. Any waste could be minced up and flushed down the loo. 200 channels of TV plus on demand absolutely no need to go out.

[cleggy]

I find it amazing that we can't properly look after our own elderly, yet at the same time give £millions in foreign aid, soon to enshrined in law.

It would be better that a percentage of our GDP is commited to building good care homes with the facilities, and staff to look after those who have contributed to our society and are in need

[Dishevelled Den]

I find it amazing that we can't properly look after our own elderly, yet at the same time give £millions in foreign aid, soon to enshrined in law.

It would be better that a percentage of our GDP is commited to building good care homes with the facilities, and staff to look after those who have contibuted to our society and are in need

Yes, I quite agree with you Cleggy.

[Dishevelled Den]

Once again we see the true cost of living in 'Bottom line Britain' - it'll soon be that you'll have to stump-up for merely having the temerity to open your own front door.

This is a country where greed and the disregard for the plight of others reign supreme - it's a bloody disgrace, that's what it is.

That would be easily solved. Shopping via the Internet and deliveries through a cat flap. Any waste could be minced up and flushed down the loo. 200 channels of TV plus on demand absolutely no need to go out.

Do you know V, I could take you to someone who lives like that  - really, within 5 minutes drive from here - although they do have the trouble of opening the front door (which I know to be a right pain in the arse for them) as there is no cat-flap fitted to it?

[aaronjb]

Once again we see the true cost of living in 'Bottom line Britain' - it'll soon be that you'll have to stump-up for merely having the temerity to open your own front door.

This is a country where greed and the disregard for the plight of others reign supreme - it's a bloody disgrace, that's what it is.

That would be easily solved. Shopping via the Internet and deliveries through a cat flap. Any waste could be minced up and flushed down the loo. 200 channels of TV plus on demand absolutely no need to go out.

I think you just described my life.. oh dear.

[Dishevelled Den]

Once again we see the true cost of living in 'Bottom line Britain' - it'll soon be that you'll have to stump-up for merely having the temerity to open your own front door.

This is a country where greed and the disregard for the plight of others reign supreme - it's a bloody disgrace, that's what it is.

That would be easily solved. Shopping via the Internet and deliveries through a cat flap. Any waste could be minced up and flushed down the loo. 200 channels of TV plus on demand absolutely no need to go out.

I think you just described my life.. oh dear.

I hope you took the trouble to have a cat-flap fitted Aa - after if something's worth doing......

[Terbs]

Its a national disgrace.A civilised society should take good care of its elderly folk.It used to be that they were considered worthy of respect,but it often seems that they are a burden now.Something needs to be done to  sort this shambles out.
That said,it used to be the norm for families to look after their elderly members,but that has changed and has a lot to do with the situation we have arrived at.

You are right Albs, thing is, in the olden days women stayed at home, toilets were on the ground floor ( in or out) so old people could often stay with relatives to a degree.
 The problem we have is that mothers flat is left 'in trust' by my stepfather, and if she moved out, the flat has to be sold and the capital invested.....the dividends from these investments go toward her upkeep. A lot of faffing about My lifestyle, as my profile shows, is that of being here, there, and everywhere, and also having the wife's 91 year old mother to look out for also. We cannot spend all our time looking after both mothers full stop.
She lives in a council flat...'warden facilities', which are a joke. Once upon a time, the wardens lived on site, and did everything for the old folks....shopping, daily visits, etc, etc, etc. Now....the warden !! covers a number of sites, does not reside at any of them. The 'daily visit' now consists of a voice from the speaker on the wall a quick few words from central control, wherever that is, and that is it. Health and safety are causing hell...Fire doors and closures have been fitted to all flats...they are so heavy the old people can't open them. Some have had the closures removed so they can open their doors, and now the council are kicking off.
Another instance....mother in law did not feel too good, warden just happened to be visiting site so knocked on the door, got no reply so used her pass key. Mother in law in bed, asked warden for a glass of water, got told not allowed to do that (H & S), so m-i-l got out of bed and went to kitchen , got a drink and went back to bed while the warden stood and watched.
What a load of total crap this country is
As a footnote...my mother was in the forces in the war...was serving in London during the Blitz....but gets no recognition whatsoever for her efforts for this glorious country of ours

[albitz]

You have my sympathy mate.I live in Essex,my Dad lives In Northern Ireland.My sisters are nearby but have busy lives.
He feels lonely and I feel guilty.
Dad lives in sheltered accomadation with an off site warden. Wareden is nice, friendly helpful - but only there for a few minutes in the mornings and available if emergency cord is pulled.

[millwall]

my grandad used to go into a care home for a month or so at a time more to give my nan a rest from looking after him as she was a bit poorly  this was a few years ago and it cost my dad £1400 a week probably was a bit higher being in london

[hotel21]

On the up side of the coin, my MiL has recently moved into residential Council care and she is looked after 24/7, meals etc etc costs her her weekly state pension, less twenty quid a week back as 'pocket money' for getting the hair done, papers etc.

GP attends each week and holds a surgery, hairdresser at least fortnightly if not weekly, all meals prepped & served and cleaned up afterwards, laundry done and personal care looked after  Choice of whatever daily activity is ongoing or veging in front of the telly, knitting, reading, jigsaws etc or out and about with family or whatever.

Overall, happy with whats ongoing for her TBH so its not all doom and gloom out there....