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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: fiend61 on 10 December 2011, 21:53:07
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all smokers out there what do you think about the new fire safe cigarettes?? i noticed that a pack i bought tasted disgusting and i mean disgusting also they kept going out, i thought that i had bought a snide pack but the next one was the same, it was then i started looking on the net and found out that these fire safe cigarettes are now law, now i know alot of you will jump on the bandwagon and say "give up then" but after 35 years not that easy, i also dont like not being told about this new cigarette upon reading the internet a hell of alot people are actually getting sick smoking this cigarette, people are asking questions about why we were not told and has proper research gone into them.
i know the world population is high and people are living longer but think is an underhanded way to kill off people :-\
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Give up then Fiend. ;D ;D :-* :y
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I thought they'd always had 'fire safe' (i.e. don't burn unless you're puffing on them) cigarettes ...
... called cigars?
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I think I read somewhere that they increased the strychnine and cyanide content...... :)
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and the simple answer is...? All together nowww.
GIVE UP THEN! As you so rightly say. :)
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I think I read somewhere that they increased the strychnine and cyanide weed content...... :)
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I think I read somewhere that they increased the strychnine and cyanide weed content...... :)
Yeh Mon!! 8) 8) 8)
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Note to "fiend61":
Never mention smoking, drinking, eating fatty foods, or indeed any other personal consumption habit on here, as the sanctimonious will always crawl out of the walls to miss your basic point entirely. ;) ;) ;D
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You forgot the EU, oh and magic trees..
Ah, crap, that'll be me banned again.
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... alot people are actually getting sick smoking this cigarette ....
instead of just killing you ::) ::) ::) ::)
Just pulling your leg. I smoked for a very long time - 25 yrs + - and giving up was one of the hardest things I've done. ;) ;)
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Note to "fiend61":
Never mention smoking, drinking, eating fatty foods, or indeed any other personal consumption habit on here, as the sanctimonious will always crawl out of the walls to miss your basic point entirely. ;) ;) ;D
whereby a certain other member will throw a strop if someone else is winning his favourite "competition" ...pmsl. ;D
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roll your own. easyer and cheaper 2.
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roll your own. easyer and cheaper 2.
..and if you're as cr@p at rolling them as I always was, they're pretty damned "fire safe" too. ;D
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Friend61 says that 'they' are trying to kill smokers off? The truth of that is that anyone who smkes tobacco is doing that voluntarily all by themselves and of their own choice! 35 years a smoker and its hard to stop? I did after 40+ with no help........
Roll ups or whatever, they all cut years of your life and affect your general health to the point they are not worth having. I found out after smoking heavily for 40 years then gave up without help. It was hard, yes, but now I reap the benefit of tasting food as it was meant to be and smelling things as they ought to smell. Thats not to mention I am financially better off and can do many things I could not do before without getting out of breath. My home now has the benefit of the white paintwork staying white, the carpets and fabrics smelling fresh too while my old car smells of leather like a new one because it has never been smoked in by anyone. I am also thankful that I now know that I can enter a room and not be the one who carries that awful smokers stink in with me.
Personal choice should remain with those who choose to smoke, its their shortened life and deteriorating health that may eventually bring them to the point they give up too.
Now that I have re-read this post I can see that there is nothing at all in it that should upset any smoker because I have agreed that the right to smoke is their choice and it should be respected. No doubt though that someone will decide to soapbox it but do I care? Nope, not at all because its all true. ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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ok alot of people hear are missing my point, the eu and america just decided to introduce these fire safe cigarettes without public knowledge or any written testing results to hopefully reduce the number of cigarette related fires, when i say they are making people sick i know there are lethal chemicals in all cigarette but for people to fall ill after only smoking a few of these cigarettes points to something not right.
i have found myself that i cant smoke my usual brand as it now dries my throat out, sets me off coughing and the main reason is that they taste crap. i think if this keeps on the tobacco companies are going to have another huge lawsuit put up against them
methinks though taken that with not enjoying thse "new" cigarettes maybe it is time to chuck it in and give up :y
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missing the point a bit but i think all cigerettes /tobacco should come with a serious health warning anyway becuase if someone tries to preach to wifey about giving up it could seriously effect thier health ;D ;D
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I was going to give up smoking as it was costing me £200 a week.
But I managed to get it down to £20 by just throwing away my petrol lighter.
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should have converted it to lpg ;D ;D
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I was going to give up smoking as it was costing me £200 a week.
But I managed to get it down to £20 by just throwing away my petrol lighter.
;D ;D ;D
But I do miss the dirty habbit. Come January it will be a year since my last fag and Im now starting to wander if I made the right choice to stop sometimes :-\ :-\
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Quote from: fiend61 on Today at 07:11:23
ok alot of people hear are missing my point, the eu and america just decided to introduce these fire safe cigarettes without public knowledge or any written testing results to hopefully reduce the number of cigarette related fires, when i say they are making people sick i know there are lethal chemicals in all cigarette but for people to fall ill after only smoking a few of these cigarettes points to something not right.
i have found myself that i cant smoke my usual brand as it now dries my throat out, sets me off coughing and the main reason is that they taste crap. i think if this keeps on the tobacco companies are going to have another huge lawsuit put up against them
methinks though taken that with not enjoying thse "new" cigarettes maybe it is time to chuck it in and give up
When I get into the lift at work to get to the 12th floor, I always seem to be accosted by smokers who essential stink and make me feel like vomiting. In essence the next 5 mins in the lift, stopping at every floor on the way up, makes me feel ill. Theres no use getting out and getting another lift because they seem to be everywhere. Now who let these revolting smokers into the lift? Can they not take the stairs? Of course not because that would cause them to cough and splutter and probably die going up 2 flights of stairs. But they still choose to stand right next to me in a lift. What can I do to get rid of these stinky people from where I work? Oh and as soon as I walk in or out of the building there they are again puffing away at their fiery contraptions making non smokers feel ill with not a care in the world. And of course the butts end up on the floor because none of them can walk the extra 10m to the bin to dispose of it there.
Just my 2p in response to your complaints. At least you can choose to give up smoking. I cant seem to get rid of the smokers and the no smoking signs seem to have no effect. Maybe it should be a no smokers allowed sign/use deo +/- mouthwash before mixing with people?
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ok alot of people hear are missing my point, the eu and america just decided to introduce these fire safe cigarettes without public knowledge or any written testing results to hopefully reduce the number of cigarette related fires, when i say they are making people sick i know there are lethal chemicals in all cigarette but for people to fall ill after only smoking a few of these cigarettes points to something not right.
i have found myself that i cant smoke my usual brand as it now dries my throat out, sets me off coughing and the main reason is that they taste crap. i think if this keeps on the tobacco companies are going to have another huge lawsuit put up against them
methinks though taken that with not enjoying thse "new" cigarettes maybe it is time to chuck it in and give up :y
When I get into the lift at work to get to the 12th floor, I always seem to be accosted by smokers who essential stink and make me feel like vomiting. In essence the next 5 mins in the lift, stopping at every floor on the way up, makes me feel ill. Theres no use getting out and getting another lift because they seem to be everywhere. Now who let these revolting smokers into the lift? Can they not take the stairs? Of course not because that would cause them to cough and splutter and probably die going up 2 flights of stairs. But they still choose to stand right next to me in a lift. What can I do to get rid of these stinky people from where I work? Oh and as soon as I walk in or out of the building there they are again puffing away at their fiery contraptions making non smokers feel ill with not a care in the world. And of course the butts end up on the floor because none of them can walk the extra 10m to the bin to dispose of it there. :'(
Just my 2p in response to your complaints. At least you can choose to give up smoking. I cant seem to get rid of the smokers and the no smoking signs seem to have no effect. Maybe it should be a no smokers allowed sign/use deo +/- mouthwash before mixing with people? :-X
Thats it, you've sussed it, a non smoker designed these new fangled tabs so the smokers know how us non smokers feel around smokers.... rather ill. ;D And suprise suprise , they dont like it.
And yes smokers do stink, esp this time of year in the damper weather.
Especially difficult for friends and loved ones. :(
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Note to "fiend61":
Never mention smoking, drinking, eating fatty foods, or indeed any other personal consumption habit on here, as the sanctimonious will always crawl out of the walls to miss your basic point entirely. ;) ;) ;D
whereby a certain other member will throw a strop if someone else is winning his favourite "competition" ...pmsl. ;D
Haven't a clue what you're on about, so no change there, then. ::) ::)
Back to the topic, I was interested to see if anyone could shed light on fiend's allegations. I pointed out that the usual "give up smoking" is hardly addressing the poster's query. ???
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Quote from: fiend61 on Today at 07:11:23
ok alot of people hear are missing my point, the eu and america just decided to introduce these fire safe cigarettes without public knowledge or any written testing results to hopefully reduce the number of cigarette related fires, when i say they are making people sick i know there are lethal chemicals in all cigarette but for people to fall ill after only smoking a few of these cigarettes points to something not right.
i have found myself that i cant smoke my usual brand as it now dries my throat out, sets me off coughing and the main reason is that they taste crap. i think if this keeps on the tobacco companies are going to have another huge lawsuit put up against them
methinks though taken that with not enjoying thse "new" cigarettes maybe it is time to chuck it in and give up
When I get into the lift at work to get to the 12th floor, I always seem to be accosted by smokers who essential stink and make me feel like vomiting. In essence the next 5 mins in the lift, stopping at every floor on the way up, makes me feel ill. Theres no use getting out and getting another lift because they seem to be everywhere. Now who let these revolting smokers into the lift? Can they not take the stairs? Of course not because that would cause them to cough and splutter and probably die going up 2 flights of stairs. But they still choose to stand right next to me in a lift. What can I do to get rid of these stinky people from where I work? Oh and as soon as I walk in or out of the building there they are again puffing away at their fiery contraptions making non smokers feel ill with not a care in the world. And of course the butts end up on the floor because none of them can walk the extra 10m to the bin to dispose of it there.
Just my 2p in response to your complaints. At least you can choose to give up smoking. I cant seem to get rid of the smokers and the no smoking signs seem to have no effect. Maybe it should be a no smokers allowed sign/use deo +/- mouthwash before mixing with people?
why dont you and the fit and healthy brigade take the stairs then, and leave the lifts to those that need em! :)
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Note to "fiend61":
Never mention smoking, drinking, eating fatty foods, or indeed any other personal consumption habit on here, as the sanctimonious will always crawl out of the walls to miss your basic point entirely. ;) ;) ;D
whereby a certain other member will throw a strop if someone else is winning his favourite "competition" ...pmsl. ;D
Haven't a clue what you're on about, so no change there, then. ::) ::)
Back to the topic, I was interested to see if anyone could shed light on fiend's allegations. I pointed out that the usual "give up smoking" is hardly addressing the poster's query. ???
its entirely addressing it, give up, no more problem. And i refer the oof spiritless member to my previous post, or will you claim not to understand that either. ;D
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Fek the EU and America, give it up Fiend. :-* :-* :-* ;D ;D
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why dont you and the fit and healthy brigade take the stairs then, and leave the lifts to those that need em! :)
12 flights about 8 - 12 times a day is a bit excessive isnt it? And I am not a fit and healthy brigade person at all. Just as the OP is unhappy about having a new odd smelling cigarette imposed on him, I was putting forward my side of what gets imposed on me. And I have no choice it seems. When your sense of smell is working, as it is in my case, it is very difficult to tolerate the smell of a smoker. Just as it is difficult to tolerate someone who hasnt showered for days on end. The end result is similar.
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well read all this with great dissapointment to be honest yes i am a smoker so is wifey not in your face smokers we do show some consideration for others but hey ho from what i have read certainley does not seem to bee the OFF spirit of things
We all have our vices in one form or another
quite agree smoking is nowadays anti social but so is getting your point across in a rude insulting fashion
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Once the do-gooders have have got everyone not smoking, then they can turn their attention to making everyone tea total. Then they will wonder why all pubs have closed, as nobody is allowed to smoke or drink, and act like they don't understand why that would affect pubs.
People should be allowed to do what they want, when they want, as long as the are not affecting others and being ignorant idiots. Those that cannot deal with right and wrong should be eliminated from society, as should those unable to tolerate the tolerant.
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I am sorry if you feel insulted, but that wasnt the point. Certainly was not specifically directed at you or your wife or one particular person. Just as the OP feels that he had no say in these things, I feel the same. You will not be able to comprehend the distress the smell causes non smokers unless you have been on the other side. 2 months ago I bought a superbly maintained and looked after Omega estate that had been occasionally smoked in. It had only done 20k in mileage with one owner so certainly had not had any heavy smoke exposure. I bought it, valeted it 3 times (inc biological cleaners), twice myself and once professionally and them had it fogged/smoked in the hope I would be able to live with it. But there was a trace of that smell which was so irritating that I actually got rid of the car at a loss. Difficult to understand unless you are in my shoes.
So I am sorry if I have ofended you and will comment no further on this thread.
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Once the do-gooders have have got everyone not smoking, then they can turn their attention to making everyone tea total. Then they will wonder why all pubs have closed, as nobody is allowed to smoke or drink, and act like they don't understand why that would affect pubs.
People should be allowed to do what they want, when they want, as long as the are not affecting others and being ignorant idiots. Those that cannot deal with right and wrong should be eliminated from society, as should those unable to tolerate the tolerant.
I agree.
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And I will say, despite being a non-smoker, I think making smoking anti-social is wrong. Yes, there was/are some ignorant smokers, but there are equally ignorant drinkers/speeders/whatever your vice is.
We all knew, a decade ago, that if you went in a pub, it would be smokey. If you don't like it, don't go in ;). Notice how few non-smoking pubs there were ;)
Back in the early 90s, in Aylesbury, some idiot do-gooder opened up an alcohol free pub. Needless to say, the financing ran out after about 6 months....
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People should indeed be allowed to do what they want, including smokers, but the very weed they smoke inforces them to smoke more! This is not volentary. They are not donig what they want, they follow their addiction. Which for others is repulsive. Its interesting smokers find these new cigarettes repulsive. Food for thought perhaps.
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theres no need for an apology D not offended its sadly the norm when non smokers or ex smokers get an oppertunity to voice thier opinions about smoking
its just dissapointing to see it on this forum having met some of the people
i would add that most things we do in life effect others no matter if it was unintentional smoking is certainley one of them if you made a list of such things it would be very long
drinking
speeding
going to work with a cold
etc etc
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...and re do gooding. Personally, no intention of doing smokers good per say, more to stop poluting the air you/I/we all breath. Where ever you/I/we choose the breath it! Pub or otherwise, be it smoke or personal stench, weather the individual is aware of it or not!
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...and re do gooding. Personally, no intention of doing smokers good per say, more to stop poluting the air you/I/we all breath. Where ever you/I/we choose the breath it! Pub or otherwise, be it smoke or personal stench, weather the individual is aware of it or not!
are you on a wined up or dont you know when to stop thought this was a car forum ;D
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theres no need for an apology D not offended its sadly the norm when non smokers or ex smokers get an oppertunity to voice thier opinions about smoking
its just dissapointing to see it on this forum having met some of the people
i would add that most things we do in life effect others no matter if it was unintentional smoking is certainley one of them if you made a list of such things it would be very long
drinking
speeding
going to work with a cold
etc etc
:y :y
Disapointing indeed.
Imagine spending an entire day at a meet, fixing others cars. Where one of the owners, while i'm fixing thier car, insists on smoking no more than one foot from my face, stubing out thier fag buts on the very floor i have to roll around on the do the work for that very person, so that for the rest of the day while working on further cars, i stink like the very ash tray they wouldnt roll around in or have within two feet of themslves due the repulsive stench.
Disapointing? .... rather right its disapointing!
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that want me was it rather hope not :-[
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...and re do gooding. Personally, no intention of doing smokers good per say, more to stop poluting the air you/I/we all breath. Where ever you/I/we choose the breath it! Pub or otherwise, be it smoke or personal stench, weather the individual is aware of it or not!
are you on a wined up or dont you know when to stop thought this was a car forum ;D
Yes partly, the way i see it, its the complete opposite view! As obtuse, rude, offensive, disgusting as smoking itself. Except the oppoite end of the scale. Ofended? Now you see the other view! Hypocritical slightly, but might get the point through "the smog" and addiction tjat make smokers cimpletely blind. Smokers who in some cases i love and respect greatly.
If i'm told that smoking is acceptable, then equally, obviously i'm allowed to tell that it is not. (and then some ;D) ;)
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that want me was it rather hope not :-[
No mate, you where a pleasure. ;)
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that want me was it rather hope not :-[
No mate, you where a pleasure. ;)
phew thank break for that espicially after watching you work your nuts off all day i would have been very embarrassed i have to say ...at least you got it off your chest :o :o :y
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that want me was it rather hope not :-[
No mate, you where a pleasure. ;)
phew thank break for that espicially after watching you work your nuts off all day i would have been very embarrassed i have to say ...at least you got it off your chest :o :o :y
It might have been the year before tbh... although that makes little odds tbh. But he did let your side down greatly. ;D
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smokers hey smelly rather buggers ;D ;D ;)
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People should indeed be allowed to do what they want, including smokers, but the very weed they smoke inforces them to smoke more! This is not volentary. They are not donig what they want, they follow their addiction. Which for others is repulsive. Its interesting smokers find these new cigarettes repulsive. Food for thought perhaps.
Alcohol is addictive. And smells, both during the evening, and the morning after ::)
Didn't they find something in McDonalds that was addictive?
Some people say track days are addictive.....
I don't particularly enjoy stinking of fags, more noticable as a non smoker, but I stand by my earlier comments...
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I don't have a problem with people smoking as long as it dosn't affect me or others around! :y Unfortunately, most smokers whilst believing that they are being considerate, don't understand how badly they stink and how offensive it can be.... >:(
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I don't have a problem with people smoking as long as it dosn't affect me or others around! :y Unfortunately, most smokers whilst believing that they are being considerate, don't understand how badly they stink and how offensive it can be.... >:(
My pet hate is getting into a lift when someone popped out for a quick smoke, really, really stinks lift out standing in there with them, really don't like it :(
But I fair few of my friends are smokers, so I don't mind it when its not affecting me. Far nicer in Bar's & restaurants now since the ban :)
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I don't have a problem with people smoking as long as it dosn't affect me or others around! :y Unfortunately, most smokers whilst believing that they are being considerate, don't understand how badly they stink and how offensive it can be.... >:(
My pet hate is getting into a lift when someone popped out for a quick smoke, really, really stinks lift out standing in there with them, really don't like it :(
But I fair few of my friends are smokers, so I don't mind it when its not affecting me. Far nicer in Bar's & restaurants now since the ban :)
or on a car journey and your smoking companion has a quick fag outside the car at the services, then jumps straight back in..... Urrrrgh... :( >:(
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Not all us smokers are bad! I swapped from ciggys to rollys and smoke much less that way, and only smoke in one room of my own house.
I dont smoke around anyone that doesnt, very rarely smoke in my car even on my own.
Regards the op the ciggy companys should really of advertised that fact on the packs "extra free chemicals" :y
I have no plans to give up rollys any time soon, I enjoy smoking them.
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