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Chat Area => General Car Chat => Topic started by: Darth Loo-knee on 17 January 2012, 12:40:03
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If there is a bracket from the dipstick to the Bastaed Bolt?
To explain what I mean.......
Had a look at a 03 2.6 the other day and the dipstick was loose so not attached. Removed the Pain in the Arse Bolt, moved the engine lifting bracket to find that the bracket on the dipstick is about an inch lower than it should be. So the famous Bolt has no chance of going through it.
I can't actually think I have ever seen a bracket of any description to secure the dipstick other than obviously the flange with its hole in attached to the dipstick....... ??? and if there is such a bracket, why alter the dipsticks?
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If my dodgy back and spazzy leg hold out,I may be able to have a look this afternoon.Im planning on taking the stat out of the 2.6 I have on the drive,and having a look at the cooler plate while Im there to see if it looks like it has been off recently. ;) :y
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Cheers for that Albs as I rather curious now ???
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It was pretty much as per standard 2.5 and 3.0 when I did the countesses 2.6 head work
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I might know the answer here.
The engine has been swapped or someone has broken the dipstick tube. As I'm sure you are aware, removing a dipstick tube thats been there for 10 years is not normally going to end happily, unless you use loads of wd40 and take loads of time. I suspect the tube has been broken at some point in the past (possibly in previous engine) and the pipe has just been stuck in the hole in the block. If you are lucky they'll have used o-rings to seal it, but without a place for the o-rings to sit, they'll be pretty much useless.
On a side note, if it's and inch lower, the oil level will be wrong ;)
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Whilst I appreciate what your saying, the actually length of the dipstick seems right, it is its bracket thats puzzled me. I did wonder myself if it had been swapped at some point but I was sure they were all the same.... Hence the question :y
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In have a recollection of seeing one with the dipstick on a separate bolt. Might even have been when I did my thermostat. :-\
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In have a recollection of seeing one with the dipstick on a separate bolt. Might even have been when I did my thermostat. :-\
Have a look Kev because its doing my head in ;D
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Whilst I appreciate what your saying, the actually length of the dipstick seems right, it is its bracket thats puzzled me. I did wonder myself if it had been swapped at some point but I was sure they were all the same.... Hence the question :y
The vectra dipstick is different. I see what you mean now, the dipstick hole is in the right place, but the coolant pipe hole isn't lining up?
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Going by feel,the one on my drive is in the usual place,as in the pic I took of a 2.5 engine I removed a few months ago.
(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff500/Albs59/DSCF1280.jpg)
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Whilst I appreciate what your saying, the actually length of the dipstick seems right, it is its bracket thats puzzled me. I did wonder myself if it had been swapped at some point but I was sure they were all the same.... Hence the question :y
The vectra dipstick is different. I see what you mean now, the dipstick hole is in the right place, but the coolant pipe hole isn't lining up?
The one bolt, known as the bastard bolt fastened three things to the head. Engine Lifting Bracket, Thermostat Transfer Pipe and the Dipstick Tube. The Dipstick Tube has a sort of a flange (with a hole in it) thats maybe welded to the Dipstick Tube. All three holes need to line up so the bolt goes through each to fasten them to the head. Engine Bracket and Transfer Pipe line up but the Dipstick Tube hole is around an inch lower.
Hope thats a little clearer :-*
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Thanks for that picture :-* that is how everyone I have seen looks like :y
The one I refer too is different ???
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Ive just been reading TB,s thermostat how to and noticed when he mentions removing the bastard bolt he says "its the one arrowed red in the pic and not the blue one.Most cars wont have the blue one".could it be that the car your working on has the blue one (have a look at the pic in the guide) and thats what the dipstick tube attches to ? :-\
http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90647.0
Just had another look at the pic in the guide,and by jove I think I might have found the answer. ::)
Speaking of that guide.Could someone pleeeeeeease overdub a new sountrack to the video. :o ::) ;D ;D
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Thats the answer, well done and thank you Poirot ;D
Although I am sure I have not seen one of them.....
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Nearly 17000posts and at last one of them has been useful. ;D ;D ;D
Now,about that video soundtrack....... :P ;D
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My next question, (and as you Poirot have answered my first one ;D) why would they swap a perfectly good Dipstick Tube like every other Omega has for that one?
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My next question, (and as you Poirot have answered my first one ;D) why would they swap a perfectly good Dipstick Tube like every other Omega has for that one?
to confuse you dlk ;D
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My next question, (and as you Poirot have answered my first one ;D) why would they swap a perfectly good Dipstick Tube like every other Omega has for that one?
to confuse you dlk ;D
It doesn't seem to be taking alot lately Maxwell... Must be my age ;D
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If there is a bracket from the dipstick to the Bastaed Bolt?
To explain what I mean.......
Had a look at a 03 2.6 the other day and the dipstick was loose so not attached. Removed the Pain in the Arse Bolt, moved the engine lifting bracket to find that the bracket on the dipstick is about an inch lower than it should be. So the famous Bolt has no chance of going through it.
I can't actually think I have ever seen a bracket of any description to secure the dipstick other than obviously the flange with its hole in attached to the dipstick....... ??? and if there is such a bracket, why alter the dipsticks?
When I took my bastard bolt out something fell off which I never did find.. But I think it was something which held the dipstick in place, now held secure with tie wraps..
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Two different dipstick Tubes
> Eng No 08302849 Dipstick Tube is 90467272
Eng No 08302850> Use Dipstick Tube 24467218 with Bracket 24467215 and Bolt 11097791
Cheers
Andy
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Someone must have been bored in the design dept. one day,looking at a drawing of the dipstick tube etc. and thought,"I know what I could do today"............. ::) ;D
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Although I am sure I have not seen one of them.....
Except the one in the guide - an 03 plate 3.2 - which you changed the stat on whilst I wrote the guide. Do you not remember, Stokie? :P
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Two different dipstick Tubes
> Eng No 08302849 Dipstick Tube is 90467272
Eng No 08302850> Use Dipstick Tube 24467218 with Bracket 24467215 and Bolt 11097791
Cheers
Andy
This is getting very, very confusing. My engine number is greater than 08578512 but it still has the "old style" dipstick tube, at least when changing the stat it was held by b-bolt and that's where I put it back also... And no indication of engine change or anything like that :-\ :-\ :-\
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Although I am sure I have not seen one of them.....
Except the one in the guide - an 03 plate 3.2 - which you changed the stat on whilst I wrote the guide. Do you not remember, Stokie? :P
He's blotted it from his memory because the music was so bad. ;)