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Title: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: PAULCDX on 20 January 2012, 17:50:02
Hi Everyone,

Having sold my V6 last year I'm now looking at purchasing another of my fav car.

I'm looking for some expert buying advice from you helpful bunch.

Looking ahead at insurance and running costs, including mechanical reliabilty , I'm torn between as to which Omega to buy, the 2.2 or the 2.6 v6?

I love the power and sound of the V6 but is the 2.2 more economical to run and are there any major things to look into, i.e Cambelt?, headgasket, ??


Hope I'm making sense? lol...

Cheers as always

Paul

Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: Webby the Bear on 20 January 2012, 18:03:16
Look out for proof of cambelt on any you choose!  :y

Never driven a 2.2 but there's definitely some interesting views on here for 4 pot vs 6 pot. I'm sure someone will be along shortly to start the argument advise  :-X :y
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: PAULCDX on 20 January 2012, 18:19:26
Lol Cheers Mate, looking forward to the advice  ;D
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: Del Boy on 20 January 2012, 18:30:30
Tiny difference in running costs, the V6 is a bit more powerful too. Personally I'd get a 2.6, however a 2.2 manual can be pretty nippy when needed to be.
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: Webby the Bear on 20 January 2012, 18:34:40
Tiny difference in running costs, the V6 is a bit more powerful too. Personally I'd get a 2.6, however a 2.2 manual can be pretty nippy when needed to be.

Yes, I think you'd feel a tad inadequate on the forum if you didn't get a V6  :-X :-X :-X ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: the alarming man on 20 January 2012, 18:40:03
Tiny difference in running costs, the V6 is a bit more powerful too. Personally I'd get a 2.6, however a 2.2 manual can be pretty nippy when needed to be.

Yes, I think you'd feel a tad inadequate on the forum if you didn't get a V6  :-X :-X :-X ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D





i always knew you had issues webby but no i  am totally adequate :y
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: Webby the Bear on 20 January 2012, 18:41:18
Tiny difference in running costs, the V6 is a bit more powerful too. Personally I'd get a 2.6, however a 2.2 manual can be pretty nippy when needed to be.

Yes, I think you'd feel a tad inadequate on the forum if you didn't get a V6  :-X :-X :-X ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D





i always knew you had issues webby but no i  am totally adequate :y

Hahahaha only kidding Broseph.... just trying to stir it up!  :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: ndmv6 on 20 January 2012, 18:48:02
ive a 2.2 petrol auto,find it ok for what i need ,however,on a trip to wales last year,with 3 passengers plus a boot full of luggage,and a tank of fuel,i did wish ide bought a v6,as it did struggle at times.check for the exhaust manifold on the 2.2,as they do warp,which leads to all sorts of fault codes being given.fuel economy is slightly better on the 2.2,but all depends how heavy your foot is.. :)
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 20 January 2012, 18:53:51
I dont think maintenance and fuel costs will make a huge difference on that heavy car..except insurance.. my preference would be V6.. and if economy is primary concern there are other things to look.. :-\
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: Webby the Bear on 20 January 2012, 18:56:04
I dont think maintenance and fuel costs will make a huge difference on that heavy car..except insurance.. my preference would be V6.. and if economy is primary concern there are other things to look.. :-\

 :y
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: PAULCDX on 20 January 2012, 19:02:21
Sounds like the V6 gets the vote then  :y
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 20 January 2012, 19:11:07
Sounds like the V6 gets the vote then  :y

yep.. but check the car in detail before buying.. or have member/mechanic from here to check the car for you  :y
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: PAULCDX on 20 January 2012, 19:22:25
Yeah will you mate, thanks for the advice

I'm no mechanic unfortunately and have had some problems with Omegas in the past.

Cheers,  :y
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: SIR Philbutt on 20 January 2012, 19:22:50
Have had both. First was a 6 pot (2.6 manual) last 2 have been 4 pot (2.2's manual and now auto). All Estates

IMO, and I am SURE I will be contradicted on here, I have had a lot less trouble with the 4 pots over the same time period of owning each one.

2.2's can be claimed to be underpowered and less MPG but having never run any of the bigger 6 pot I have found the 2.2's to be the same as the 2.6 if not a little better.

The Manual's were obviously slightly better on MPG and performance than the auto but in todays town traffic, and cruising, I have preferred the auto.

My reading of the posts on here is that the usual problems, cam belts & cover gaskets, sensors, head gaskets, etc.... occur on both 4 pots & 6 pots. Up to you to decide which you would be willing to work on yourself.

I have an Omega because I like the Omega, for it's comfort and more importanly to me it's size. Do not know what I am going to do when I can no longer get one.

I am not an expert as such just letting you know what I have found.

Hope this helps
Phil
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: Omega_Dan on 20 January 2012, 19:27:39
Why did you sell your v6 paul? sounded like a nice late car :)
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: D on 20 January 2012, 19:32:17
Tiny difference in running costs, the V6 is a bit more powerful too. Personally I'd get a 2.6, however a 2.2 manual can be pretty nippy when needed to be.

Really? My V6 does 20mpg vs 28 on my 2.2, both auto, both well looked after. Plus parts for the 2.2 seem to be a bit cheaper. And fewer things have actually broken on the 2.2 vs the V6 which always has something or the other going wrong. The above figures are in greater london traffic. On the open road I get 450miles from a tankful in the 2.2 vs 275 in the V6.

As petrol prices head upwards I seem to be reaching for the 2.2 all the time. But I don't do any towing malarkey so can't comment on that aspect.
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: PAULCDX on 20 January 2012, 19:36:39
Hi Dan,

It was a reluctant sale mate but needs must at the time and it needed money spending on it i.e Service and Cambelt etc..... I got the car cheap at £700 and got back what I paid for it for but I wish I'd have kept it to be honest..

I'm having a good look around ebay, autotrader, gumtree to see what's out there at the mo mate but money is tight lol.....
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: PAULCDX on 20 January 2012, 19:37:34
Thanks for all the other advice guys, much appreciated  :y
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: Stallion on 20 January 2012, 19:39:23
I think the 2.2 is a proper work horse, under rated aswell. I had one for 3years only thing apart from wear and tear was the cambelt/waterpump change. And the 4pot is easier in my view to work with??  :y :y oh but mine was a auto if that helps..
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: tunnie on 20 January 2012, 19:43:46
I've got a 2.2, run it for past 7 years, never missed a beat. Dead easy to work on, things like the stat are a 5 min job and so simple. V6 is a bit of a pig to work on.

Now got a 3.2, loads more power. Its actually not far off in fuel useage! On petrol (before i LPG'd 2.2) i'd get around 30-34mpg average, on similar runs, 27mpg in the 3.2, although mixture of town/motorway drops it to 24mpg.

Main running cost difference will be insurance, V6 is considerably more to insure. Unless you are an old fart!  :D
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: Omega_Dan on 20 January 2012, 20:53:24
Hi Dan,

It was a reluctant sale mate but needs must at the time and it needed money spending on it i.e Service and Cambelt etc..... I got the car cheap at £700 and got back what I paid for it for but I wish I'd have kept it to be honest..

I'm having a good look around ebay, autotrader, gumtree to see what's out there at the mo mate but money is tight lol.....


£700 :o Blimey someone had a bargain
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: PAULCDX on 20 January 2012, 21:12:14
Lol, they sure did mate, as I say needs must and it had to go....... Shame tho. she was a nice v6 CDX
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: Vamps on 20 January 2012, 22:44:36
So Paul it's a 4 pot that you need.............. :y :y
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 20 January 2012, 23:32:27
I've got a 2.2, run it for past 7 years, never missed a beat. Dead easy to work on, things like the stat are a 5 min job and so simple. V6 is a bit of a pig to work on.

Now got a 3.2, loads more power. Its actually not far off in fuel useage! On petrol (before i LPG'd 2.2) i'd get around 30-34mpg average, on similar runs, 27mpg in the 3.2, although mixture of town/motorway drops it to 24mpg.

Main running cost difference will be insurance, V6 is considerably more to insure. Unless you are an old fart!  :D


.......like the majority here at OOF..... ::) ::) ::) ;)

P.S. I'm 26 and a young stud about town. :)
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: Webby the Bear on 21 January 2012, 00:39:01
I, like Tunnie and Opti, am a young(ish) stud at 29.

So it's definitely the V6 you need if you want to impress friends and snag the girl of your dreams  ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: Bixy1 on 21 January 2012, 01:39:31
The 4 pot is definitely more economical and easier to work on I've found whereas the v6 is a bit of a pig. However, when you pop the 2.5/2.6 into sport mode and boot it. . . and the multi-rams come in . . .  :o    O Joy!!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: jonnycool on 21 January 2012, 09:47:40
I, like Tunnie and Opti, am a young(ish) stud at 29.

So it's definitely the V6 you need if you want to impress friends and snag the girl of your dreams  ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y :y :y :y

An Omega is definitely NOT the car to buy if you want the girl of your dreams  ;D ;D ;D

Unless she's over 60  :-X
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: Radar on 21 January 2012, 11:38:14
Had a 2.2 prev., now have 2.5 - petrol diff. not much in it but the v6 is more tricky to do work on. Also depends on your main style of driving - ie. motorway, stop start traffic. I found the 2.2 didn't have enough power when wanting to accelerate onto motorways/going up hills and that the v6 is much more comfortable in handling this. V6 for me, but not by much due to more things to get out the way when working in the engine. I believe the 2.6 has a bit less clutter than the 2.5 so that should help.
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: Webby the Bear on 21 January 2012, 12:38:10
I, like Tunnie and Opti, am a young(ish) stud at 29.

So it's definitely the V6 you need if you want to impress friends and snag the girl of your dreams  ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y :y :y :y

An Omega is definitely NOT the car to buy if you want the girl of your dreams  ;D ;D ;D

Unless she's over 60  :-X

Utter rubbish Jonny. The huge boot capacity means you could probably get 3 perfect girls in it!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: maracus on 22 January 2012, 17:48:10
I found the big factor on insurance costs to be anything BEFORE full facelift was consistently £3-400 cheaper to insure than a newer equivalent. My td's and v6 were/are all within £100 of each other, anything facelifted shot up to over a grand!!! :-\
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: tidla on 22 January 2012, 21:13:56
I, like Tunnie and Opti, am a young(ish) stud at 29.

So it's definitely the V6 you need if you want to impress friends and snag the girl of your dreams  ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y :y :y :y

An Omega is definitely NOT the car to buy if you want the girl of your dreams  ;D ;D ;D

Unless she's over 60  :-X

Utter rubbish Jonny. The huge boot capacity means you could probably get 3 perfect girls in it!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

not quite the birds your thinking of..

http://youtu.be/psidz_-s00c (http://youtu.be/psidz_-s00c)
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: Stallion on 23 January 2012, 01:43:59
I, like Tunnie and Opti, am a young(ish) stud at 29.

So it's definitely the V6 you need if you want to impress friends and snag the girl of your dreams  ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y :y :y :y

An Omega is definitely NOT the car to buy if you want the girl of your dreams  ;D ;D ;D

Unless she's over 60  :-X

Utter rubbish Jonny. The huge boot capacity means you could probably get 3 perfect girls in it!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D :D ;D :D ;D ;D  :y :y
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: TheBoy on 23 January 2012, 18:28:36
Economy and servicing, not much between them to be honest. Insurance, errr....   ....get some quotes :y

2.2 is easier to work on until the HG goes (normally around 150k). Early 2.6s have duff seal seals, bit of a pig (head off) to sort. Both suffer the usual faults - coil packs, cam cover gaskets, breather etc...
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: PAULCDX on 24 January 2012, 21:05:53
Cheers for all the info, As soon as I find one I'll let you all now.

Am prob going to go for the 2.2 this time round as my prev V6 cost alot to insure but was a pleasure to drive lol  ;D

Thanks for all the advice......  :y
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: dbug on 24 January 2012, 21:53:19
I, like Tunnie and Opti, am a young(ish) stud at 29.

So it's definitely the V6 you need if you want to impress friends and snag the girl of your dreams  ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y :y :y :y

Don't think an Omega impresses the girls mate (4 pot or 6 pot) - but is a good sha**ing wagon  ;)

To impress the girls look to the sporty motors - found my Ferrari Dino was good as was my E type & TR6 :y
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: jonnycool on 25 January 2012, 20:30:54
I, like Tunnie and Opti, am a young(ish) stud at 29.

So it's definitely the V6 you need if you want to impress friends and snag the girl of your dreams  ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y :y :y :y

Don't think an Omega impresses the girls mate (4 pot or 6 pot) - but is a good sha**ing wagon  ;)

To impress the girls look to the sporty motors - found my Ferrari Dino was good as was my E type & TR6 :y

Bloody showoff  ;D
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 26 January 2012, 13:52:12
i myself will never have a v6 again just got 2.2 auto v6 is to much work :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 26 January 2012, 15:48:14
i just found out the 2.2 facelift is more to insure than the 2.5 mini facelift so go and figure that out i cant
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: TheBoy on 26 January 2012, 19:29:41
i just found out the 2.2 facelift is more to insure than the 2.5 mini facelift so go and figure that out i cant
Newer, thus higher value ;)
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: albitz on 26 January 2012, 20:11:30
i dont think that should make it higher as the car has a smaller engine and is slower and should be less likely to have a crash so the insurance should be cheaper for a smaller engine car not higher so i think they just rip you off every chance they get and they should not be allowed to do it as it isnt fair on people thats what i think anyway

 ::)

Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: TheBoy on 26 January 2012, 20:24:42
i dont think that should make it higher as the car has a smaller engine and is slower and should be less likely to have a crash so the insurance should be cheaper for a smaller engine car not higher so i think they just rip you off every chance they get and they should not be allowed to do it as it isnt fair on people thats what i think anyway

 ::)
Of course its going to be higher when the value is higher.

Additionally, the stats will show facelifts to be high risk, as more are getting written off, as not worthwhile to fix.
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 26 January 2012, 20:25:41
 :y i agree with you albert when the insurance runs out i will look somewhere else
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 26 January 2012, 20:27:53
i dont think that should make it higher as the car has a smaller engine and is slower and should be less likely to have a crash so the insurance should be cheaper for a smaller engine car not higher so i think they just rip you off every chance they get and they should not be allowed to do it as it isnt fair on people thats what i think anyway

 ::)
Of course its going to be higher when the value is higher.

Additionally, the stats will show facelifts to be high risk, as more are getting written off, as not worthwhile to fix.
so more of a rip off by insurances legal highway robbery
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: albitz on 26 January 2012, 20:30:38
at least dick turpin wore a mask ralf
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: dad1uk on 26 January 2012, 20:34:08
I don't think it's just the 2.2 Ralf, insurance is getting very silly in general.
Title: Re: Buying Advice, 2.2 vs 2.6 v6
Post by: bored bigyin54 on 26 January 2012, 20:44:20
at least dick turpin wore a mask ralf
ha ha good one i cant drive my new car yet waiting for the rip offs to send the cover so i cant tax it :( :( :(