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Title: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: venom on 12 February 2012, 15:29:10
I think I've bought a F****** lemon, some of my dash board lights weren't lighting up so took the dash out only to find that the EML, ABS & TC lights had no bulbs so put new bulbs in and guess what, THEY DONT GO OUT >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( tried the paper clip test but the EML doesn't flash just stays solid, any clues before I torch it :'( :'(
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: Andy H on 12 February 2012, 16:12:42
Which engine/year/model/fuel?
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: venom on 12 February 2012, 16:21:09
Which engine/year/model/fuel?

Sorry 2.5 petrol X25XE 1998 ELITE
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: RobG on 12 February 2012, 16:29:14
Didn`t you check all dash lights before handing over the cash ::)
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: Andy H on 12 February 2012, 16:37:17
Which engine/year/model/fuel?

Sorry 2.5 petrol X25XE 1998 ELITE
Paperclip should work. :-\

Might be worth trying the pedal trick just in case it is a mini facelift with a later ECU  :-\
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: RobG on 12 February 2012, 16:42:17
Which engine/year/model/fuel?

Sorry 2.5 petrol X25XE 1998 ELITE
Paperclip should work. :-\

Might be worth trying the pedal trick just in case it is a mini facelift with a later ECU  :-\
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: TheBoy on 12 February 2012, 16:42:57
Paperclip test on that, not pedal trick.

ABS/TC lights point towards ABS ECU - they come up on here for around £40, but a bitch to fit.
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: venom on 12 February 2012, 18:00:52
Codes as follows

1717
1713
5135
1353
1313
1121
2121

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: RobG on 12 February 2012, 18:09:14
Codes as follows

1717
1713
5135
1353
1313
1121
2121

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
2.5 doesn`t flash 4 digit codes does it ???
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: venom on 12 February 2012, 18:31:53
Paperclip test on that, not pedal trick.

ABS/TC lights point towards ABS ECU - they come up on here for around £40, but a bitch to fit.

I'll have the ABS ECU off of my 2.5 CDX.
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: TheBoy on 12 February 2012, 18:39:07
Codes as follows

1717
1713
5135
1353
1313
1121
2121

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
2.5 doesn`t flash 4 digit codes does it ???
17 135 31 12 ;)
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: TheBoy on 12 February 2012, 18:39:37
Paperclip test on that, not pedal trick.

ABS/TC lights point towards ABS ECU - they come up on here for around £40, but a bitch to fit.

I'll have the ABS ECU off of my 2.5 CDX.
What year was the cdx?
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: TheBoy on 12 February 2012, 18:40:40
Codes as follows

1717
1713
5135
1353
1313
1121
2121

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
2.5 doesn`t flash 4 digit codes does it ???
17 135 31 12 ;)
Purely from memory - 17 is passenger side knock sensor, 135 is low batt, 31 is ok, 12 is nothing.
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: venom on 12 February 2012, 18:43:35
Paperclip test on that, not pedal trick.

ABS/TC lights point towards ABS ECU - they come up on here for around £40, but a bitch to fit.

I'll have the ABS ECU off of my 2.5 CDX.
What year was the cdx?

It's a 97 I'm still driving it at the mo :y
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: TheBoy on 12 February 2012, 18:45:25
Paperclip test on that, not pedal trick.

ABS/TC lights point towards ABS ECU - they come up on here for around £40, but a bitch to fit.

I'll have the ABS ECU off of my 2.5 CDX.
What year was the cdx?

It's a 97 I'm still driving it at the mo :y
Hmmm, might be out of luck. What is the last letter of the VIN - if its V, cry, if its W, happy days :)
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: Andy H on 12 February 2012, 18:51:49
Codes as follows

1717
1713
5135
1353
1313
1121
2121

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
2.5 doesn`t flash 4 digit codes does it ???
17   Knock Signal Circuit 2 [check for trapped wire]
135   Telltale (Checklight) Voltage Low [historic - bulb missing]
31   No Engine RPM Signal [engine not running]
12  [end of data]
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: venom on 12 February 2012, 19:32:59
Paperclip test on that, not pedal trick.

ABS/TC lights point towards ABS ECU - they come up on here for around £40, but a bitch to fit.

I'll have the ABS ECU off of my 2.5 CDX.
What year was the cdx?

It's a 97 I'm still driving it at the mo :y
Hmmm, might be out of luck. What is the last letter of the VIN - if its V, cry, if its W, happy days :)

About right FFS, it's V  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: TheBoy on 12 February 2012, 19:37:21
Paperclip test on that, not pedal trick.

ABS/TC lights point towards ABS ECU - they come up on here for around £40, but a bitch to fit.

I'll have the ABS ECU off of my 2.5 CDX.
What year was the cdx?

It's a 97 I'm still driving it at the mo :y
Hmmm, might be out of luck. What is the last letter of the VIN - if its V, cry, if its W, happy days :)

About right FFS, it's V  :'( :'(
Incompatible I'm afraid, as your CDX one is a 3 channel system, post 98 is 4 channel.
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: venom on 12 February 2012, 19:43:20
Paperclip test on that, not pedal trick.

ABS/TC lights point towards ABS ECU - they come up on here for around £40, but a bitch to fit.

I'll have the ABS ECU off of my 2.5 CDX.
What year was the cdx?

It's a 97 I'm still driving it at the mo :y
Hmmm, might be out of luck. What is the last letter of the VIN - if its V, cry, if its W, happy days :)

About right FFS, it's V  :'( :'(
Incompatible I'm afraid, as your CDX one is a 3 channel system, post 98 is 4 channel.

Typical  :-\  so will that or any of the codes cause the EML to stay on?
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: TheBoy on 12 February 2012, 19:47:06
Paperclip test on that, not pedal trick.

ABS/TC lights point towards ABS ECU - they come up on here for around £40, but a bitch to fit.

I'll have the ABS ECU off of my 2.5 CDX.
What year was the cdx?

It's a 97 I'm still driving it at the mo :y
Hmmm, might be out of luck. What is the last letter of the VIN - if its V, cry, if its W, happy days :)

About right FFS, it's V  :'( :'(
Incompatible I'm afraid, as your CDX one is a 3 channel system, post 98 is 4 channel.

Typical  :-\  so will that or any of the codes cause the EML to stay on?
That ECU will only bring on ABS and TC lights. Its unrelated to the engine management light.

Engine light is probably the 17.
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: Andy H on 12 February 2012, 19:53:32
Paperclip test on that, not pedal trick.

ABS/TC lights point towards ABS ECU - they come up on here for around £40, but a bitch to fit.

I'll have the ABS ECU off of my 2.5 CDX.
Probably going to be less trouble to send it to BBA reman. All the reports on here seem to be positive. For around £100 will get your ECU back & no worries about having to get it coded to match the car.

That said......... you could get someone to connect it to Tech 2 to check that it isn't complaining about a faulty wheel sensor first.
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: venom on 12 February 2012, 19:56:39
Paperclip test on that, not pedal trick.

ABS/TC lights point towards ABS ECU - they come up on here for around £40, but a bitch to fit.

I'll have the ABS ECU off of my 2.5 CDX.
Probably going to be less trouble to send it to BBA reman. All the reports on here seem to be positive. For around £100 will get your ECU back & no worries about having to get it coded to match the car.

That said......... you could get someone to connect it to Tech 2 to check that it isn't complaining about a faulty wheel sensor first.

Hello TB ;D
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: venom on 13 February 2012, 21:19:46
Right my daughters boyfriend is a mechanic so took it to his garage today & he used a Snap on Verdict diagnostic machine & it show up the fault VALVE RELAY CIRCUIT MALFUNCTION anyone come across this before :y
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: RobG on 13 February 2012, 21:21:20
Right my daughters boyfriend is a mechanic so took it to his garage today & he used a Snap on Verdict diagnostic machine & it show up the fault VALVE RELAY CIRCUIT MALFUNCTION anyone come across this before :y
What valve & what relay :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: venom on 13 February 2012, 21:28:18
Right my daughters boyfriend is a mechanic so took it to his garage today & he used a Snap on Verdict diagnostic machine & it show up the fault VALVE RELAY CIRCUIT MALFUNCTION anyone come across this before :y
What valve & what relay :-\ :-\

Don't know it just pulled it out when he checked the ABS system, I'm asuming it's built in to the ABS ECU but was hoping it was a seperate item. 
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: TheBoy on 13 February 2012, 22:10:52
Right my daughters boyfriend is a mechanic so took it to his garage today & he used a Snap on Verdict diagnostic machine & it show up the fault VALVE RELAY CIRCUIT MALFUNCTION anyone come across this before :y
What was the code?
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: venom on 13 February 2012, 22:46:51
Don't know didn't say so will take it to him again tomorrow and check it again
Title: Re: Dash Warning lights problem
Post by: venom on 02 April 2012, 20:41:08
Paperclip test on that, not pedal trick.

ABS/TC lights point towards ABS ECU - they come up on here for around £40, but a bitch to fit.

Well got around to sorting the ABS/TC but by a fluke rather than on purpose finished off fitting the front hubs & wishbones & bled the brakes then took it for a test drive braked hard & yep the ABS kicked in so tried the TC on some grass & it's back working as well so put the bulbs back in the clocks & they've both gone out  :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y