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« on: 16 September 2013, 09:13:58 »

Hi

I wonder if anyone can help us out.
My eldest son recently purchased a 2001 Omega B with a Z22XE engine and auto transmission.
The car has starship mileage but is a really nice tight car.
The only thing missing was a cruse control which would finish it off a treat.
We got hold of a control stalk and fitted it in minutes.
The cruise did not work but checking back through the forum, all it needed was to be turned on.
We took it to a local dealer and they tried in vain to make it work.
The technician said the cruise control came up when the tech2 was plugged in but was ”ghosted out" so he could not turn it on for us.
He said he had not come across this before and would go back to the manufacture for us to follow it up.
(They also did not charge us for doing this which I think was very good of them as he spent quite some time trying different methods).
This he has done and they say it cannot be turned on, on this model.
Does anyone have any ideas ?

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Re: cruise control
« Reply #1 on: 16 September 2013, 10:37:29 »

Fairly sure Cruise was not standard on the CD, probably an optional extra, so the stalk may have been retro fitted, probably worth checking its been fitted correctly or its the right type 4 wire and not 2 wire that were fitted to TD's, failing that then its best to get it checked out with a member on here who owns a Tech II.
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Re: cruise control
« Reply #2 on: 16 September 2013, 12:19:28 »

From memory the tech2 needs to be 'authorised' by tis to enable cruise. A dealers should be though. That's the only reason I can think of why it won't work.

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Re: cruise control
« Reply #3 on: 16 September 2013, 13:34:04 »

Was dealer using Tech2 or MDI? Guessing latter, as Tech2 doesn't ghost out.

I'd recommend a day out to Nottingham, and seeing Fuse18, aka Marks DTM Calib :)
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Re: cruise control
« Reply #4 on: 17 September 2013, 19:10:10 »

Thank you for this, a few things to go at for sure.
The stalk was fitted by my sons friend and I was not present but I am sure it was the one with the 2 lots of wires, a block of 4 wires (I think#) and a small 2 wire connector, but I will go back and check and feedback to you.
I also assumed they were using tech2 at the dealers but again, I will follow this up, likewise, I would have to assume that would know to use TIS but hey, its something to ask.
If someone can get us in contact with Fuse18, aka Marks DTM Calib, I’m sure we Could make it worthwhile with a trip to Nottingham !

regards
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Re: cruise control
« Reply #5 on: 17 September 2013, 19:14:08 »

Thank you for this, a few things to go at for sure.
The stalk was fitted by my sons friend and I was not present but I am sure it was the one with the 2 lots of wires, a block of 4 wires (I think#) and a small 2 wire connector, but I will go back and check and feedback to you.
I also assumed they were using tech2 at the dealers but again, I will follow this up, likewise, I would have to assume that would know to use TIS but hey, its something to ask.
If someone can get us in contact with Fuse18, aka Marks DTM Calib, I’m sure we Could make it worthwhile with a trip to Nottingham !

regards

PM him mate  :y
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Re: cruise control
« Reply #6 on: 17 September 2013, 19:16:34 »

Dont know if this helps but the cruise control we got was a replacement for this part OE PART NUMBERS 90508668 / 1241259 / 205687 which we were told was the correct one

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Re: cruise control
« Reply #7 on: 17 September 2013, 19:21:22 »

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Re: cruise control
« Reply #8 on: 17 September 2013, 19:44:22 »

Cruise stalk needs to be the 4 wire type for all Omegas except 2.5TD
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Re: cruise control
« Reply #9 on: 17 September 2013, 22:55:38 »

I have got in touch with Fuse18.  We are in the process of arranging a meeting.  Thanks to yuo all for this help.  Will keep you posted.

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Re: cruise control
« Reply #10 on: 18 September 2013, 18:56:58 »

I have got in touch with Fuse18.  We are in the process of arranging a meeting.  Thanks to yuo all for this help.  Will keep you posted.

regards
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Re: cruise control
« Reply #11 on: 05 December 2013, 18:09:43 »

I did say I would let the forum know how we got on with fitting cruise control to our 2.2CD.  Fuse 18 kindly offered to help out.  After a full diagnosis check of the car he installed a number of minor updates to what seemed just about everything (its an old high mileage car that may never have seen a dealer) from the the radio to the air con to name only 2,  together with a massive update to the auto box ECU from software version 1 to version 10 !  The car was already good but the changes are dramatic, the drive back home was a revelation.  My son drove it to work today and could not believe the difference !  Did I mention the cruise control ?  Well, despite the main dealer saying it could not be installed on the CD Omega B, he did it in a matter of minutes, I stood and watched with my 2 sons (both Omega B owners) and there were no smoke or mirrors involved, just a great knowledge of the Tech 2 tools and how to apply them.  To sum up, Main Dealer:0, Fuse18:1.  Thank you Fuse18.
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Re: cruise control
« Reply #12 on: 05 December 2013, 21:40:41 »

Excellent news, and thankyou for taking the time to post up the result :y
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Re: cruise control
« Reply #13 on: 07 December 2013, 09:50:36 »

Just goes to show how crap dealers are! Not just Vauxhall ones but all of them in general are so, so poor. FatherT's 2.2 had the gearbox upgrade, for us it was the down changes which became silky smooth, just watch the rev dial to see when it actually changed gear!

Couple of extra things worth knowing, 2.2's love fresh oil. My 2.2 CD, is on 167k, it's super quiet thanks to life time of sub 5k oil changes. (it's around £10, for oil and filter on GM trade)

Also remember that the exhaust flexi is a comon failure, do not be under the impression the whole down pipe and cat needs to be replaced. A £15 flexi can be cut out and welded in, fuse18 has done this for me 3 times now! On my 2.2 its been done twice, once at around 95k and again recently at 160k ish. Also done FatherT's 2.2. This is far better than replacing it with pattern cats which sound awful!

Finally breathers make a big difference, the 2.2 lacks a few horses but at the end of the day is not bad. But clean throttle body and breathers really help  :y
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