Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[TheBoy]

Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60

Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...

No it is all in the gearing, over 60 the 3.0 is quicker.

The 2.6 is not that less powerful than the 3.0 and mine was a hire car therefore is nice and loose.

The 2.6 is around 180bhp, 3.0 is just shy of 210bhp.  My simple maths make that 15% different...

[Martin_1962]

Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60

Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...

No it is all in the gearing, over 60 the 3.0 is quicker.

The 2.6 is not that less powerful than the 3.0 and mine was a hire car therefore is nice and loose.

The 2.6 is around 180bhp, 3.0 is just shy of 210bhp.  My simple maths make that 15% different...

15% is not that much, below 60 nothing in it over you notice. The 3.0 didn't get going untill 30mph

[TheBoy]

Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60

Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...

No it is all in the gearing, over 60 the 3.0 is quicker.

The 2.6 is not that less powerful than the 3.0 and mine was a hire car therefore is nice and loose.

The 2.6 is around 180bhp, 3.0 is just shy of 210bhp.  My simple maths make that 15% different...

15% is not that much, below 60 nothing in it over you notice. The 3.0 didn't get going untill 30mph

We shall have to agree to disagree on that one then.  Possibly all the 2.5/2.6 ones I've driven have been flat, or all the 3.0/3.2 ones I've driven have been good...

[M-Tek Performance]

I had'nt really considered a cossie, never driven one. How do the 2wd's handle? they look a bit twitchy at the back end. Ive never really seen one look happy with the tail out .I would'nt want a 4wd of any kind. A well sorted 2wd for the road is my favorite.
I think the skyline chassis is better sorted, with active 4ws.

There was a time when all the boy racers had cossies and they were 2 a penny, a bit of a chav car but I guess now most of them have been written off and the tables have turned, with the skyline achieving chav status and the cossie more exclusive.
Enginewise they appear to be as tuneable as the skyline, but are the engines as strong?
I seem to remember someone saying turbolag was a problem with them too with one huge turbo.
Finding a bog standard one must be a nightmare and expensive if successfull.

I've had 2wd and 4wd.

2wd cann be twitchy, but mine at 310bhp was nice and drivable and would show a F355 a clean pair of heels.

Cossies are less chav now with them being old - no one wants them, which is good  Engines can take ALOT of power if built correctly.  ours is built to take 680+BHP.  

Turbo threshold can be an issue on big turbos, but cam timing can help there.  tbh, ours hits full boost not long after 4k and it revs to 8k.

Good ones do command strong money, but they're worth it.  so much fun and 350bhp in one sees off a hell of alot.

Jamie, you'd be surprised - there are cossies out that would trounce alot of the bigger bikes now, but its all relative, as the power needed is huge lol.

[Paul M]

I had'nt really considered a cossie, never driven one. How do the 2wd's handle? they look a bit twitchy at the back end. Ive never really seen one look happy with the tail out .I would'nt want a 4wd of any kind. A well sorted 2wd for the road is my favorite.
I think the skyline chassis is better sorted, with active 4ws.

There was a time when all the boy racers had cossies and they were 2 a penny, a bit of a chav car but I guess now most of them have been written off and the tables have turned, with the skyline achieving chav status and the cossie more exclusive.
Enginewise they appear to be as tuneable as the skyline, but are the engines as strong?
I seem to remember someone saying turbolag was a problem with them too with one huge turbo.
Finding a bog standard one must be a nightmare and expensive if successfull.

I've had 2wd and 4wd.

2wd cann be twitchy, but mine at 310bhp was nice and drivable and would show a F355 a clean pair of heels.

Cossies are less chav now with them being old - no one wants them, which is good  Engines can take ALOT of power if built correctly.  ours is built to take 680+BHP.  

Turbo threshold can be an issue on big turbos, but cam timing can help there.  tbh, ours hits full boost not long after 4k and it revs to 8k.

Good ones do command strong money, but they're worth it.  so much fun and 350bhp in one sees off a hell of alot.

Jamie, you'd be surprised - there are cossies out that would trounce alot of the bigger bikes now, but its all relative, as the power needed is huge lol.

Gixxer thou is 1000 BHP/tonne straight from the crate (similar to most litre supersports). If that's not enough to see off your cossie there are turbo'd gixxer thous, R1s and Hayabusas etc out there  

[Martin_1962]

Mine is as quick as a 3.0 auto up to 60

Must have been a poor 3.0l auto you are comparing with...

No it is all in the gearing, over 60 the 3.0 is quicker.

The 2.6 is not that less powerful than the 3.0 and mine was a hire car therefore is nice and loose.

The 2.6 is around 180bhp, 3.0 is just shy of 210bhp.  My simple maths make that 15% different...

15% is not that much, below 60 nothing in it over you notice. The 3.0 didn't get going untill 30mph

We shall have to agree to disagree on that one then.  Possibly all the 2.5/2.6 ones I've driven have been flat, or all the 3.0/3.2 ones I've driven have been good...

Definately little in it - it is when you go over 50 or so that you notice the extra power. At naughty speeds there is a quite large gap at non naughty speeds you wouldn't really notice

[TheBoy]

Jamie, you'd be surprised - there are cossies out that would trounce alot of the bigger bikes now, but its all relative, as the power needed is huge lol.

I think even my 18yr old ZX10 should be 0 - 60 is around 3 (cannot test as 1st to 2nd at high revs won't work) and 0 to 100 in arounf 6.  That would be one hell of a road car  

[M-Tek Performance]

Jamie, you'd be surprised - there are cossies out that would trounce alot of the bigger bikes now, but its all relative, as the power needed is huge lol.

I think even my 18yr old ZX10 should be 0 - 60 is around 3 (cannot test as 1st to 2nd at high revs won't work) and 0 to 100 in arounf 6.  That would be one hell of a road car  

I know of a few that match that, and a few that would beat it, but as i said, its all relative, you need BIG power in a car to beat a bike off the mark, when rolling, stories can be different.

Paul,

If a turbo'd bike couldnt see off ANYTHING i'd be upset if i owned that bike.  

I think you've taken what i said not in the way it was meant!

[TheBoy]

Jamie, you'd be surprised - there are cossies out that would trounce alot of the bigger bikes now, but its all relative, as the power needed is huge lol.

I think even my 18yr old ZX10 should be 0 - 60 is around 3 (cannot test as 1st to 2nd at high revs won't work) and 0 to 100 in arounf 6.  That would be one hell of a road car  

I know of a few that match that, and a few that would beat it, but as i said, its all relative, you need BIG power in a car to beat a bike off the mark, when rolling, stories can be different.

Paul,

If a turbo'd bike couldnt see off ANYTHING i'd be upset if i owned that bike.  

I think you've taken what i said not in the way it was meant!

Oh I agree, its possible to beat that, but as said, not many road cars will, nor will a 300bhp cossie

[M-Tek Performance]

Jamie, you'd be surprised - there are cossies out that would trounce alot of the bigger bikes now, but its all relative, as the power needed is huge lol.

I think even my 18yr old ZX10 should be 0 - 60 is around 3 (cannot test as 1st to 2nd at high revs won't work) and 0 to 100 in arounf 6.  That would be one hell of a road car  

I know of a few that match that, and a few that would beat it, but as i said, its all relative, you need BIG power in a car to beat a bike off the mark, when rolling, stories can be different.

Paul,

If a turbo'd bike couldnt see off ANYTHING i'd be upset if i owned that bike.  

I think you've taken what i said not in the way it was meant!

Oh I agree, its possible to beat that, but as said, not many road cars will, nor will a 300bhp cossie

Who said anything about a 300bhp cossie?  not even a two year old would suggest such a ridiculous thing

im talking 550bhp+.

[TheBoy]

Jamie, you'd be surprised - there are cossies out that would trounce alot of the bigger bikes now, but its all relative, as the power needed is huge lol.

I think even my 18yr old ZX10 should be 0 - 60 is around 3 (cannot test as 1st to 2nd at high revs won't work) and 0 to 100 in arounf 6.  That would be one hell of a road car  

I know of a few that match that, and a few that would beat it, but as i said, its all relative, you need BIG power in a car to beat a bike off the mark, when rolling, stories can be different.

Paul,

If a turbo'd bike couldnt see off ANYTHING i'd be upset if i owned that bike.  

I think you've taken what i said not in the way it was meant!

Oh I agree, its possible to beat that, but as said, not many road cars will, nor will a 300bhp cossie

Who said anything about a 300bhp cossie?  not even a two year old would suggest such a ridiculous thing

im talking 550bhp+.

LOL, that'll be more fun

Still dunno if it would beat a bike though....

[Martin_1962]

Well if an 84bhp mid range bike can see off a Cossie without struggling, what about a superbike?

Anyway there are bigger engined bikes than Cossies - look up Triumph Rocket and V Twin Merlin

[M-Tek Performance]

Jamie, you'd be surprised - there are cossies out that would trounce alot of the bigger bikes now, but its all relative, as the power needed is huge lol.

I think even my 18yr old ZX10 should be 0 - 60 is around 3 (cannot test as 1st to 2nd at high revs won't work) and 0 to 100 in arounf 6.  That would be one hell of a road car  

I know of a few that match that, and a few that would beat it, but as i said, its all relative, you need BIG power in a car to beat a bike off the mark, when rolling, stories can be different.

Paul,

If a turbo'd bike couldnt see off ANYTHING i'd be upset if i owned that bike.  

I think you've taken what i said not in the way it was meant!

Oh I agree, its possible to beat that, but as said, not many road cars will, nor will a 300bhp cossie

Who said anything about a 300bhp cossie?  not even a two year old would suggest such a ridiculous thing

im talking 550bhp+.

LOL, that'll be more fun

Still dunno if it would beat a bike though....

I'll let you know in the summer