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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I must admit I fail to see the connection between fasting and swimming. OK, both involve water, or the lack of it, but you don't drink swimming pool water. Especially when a load of schoolkids are swimming in it.

Surely the point of fasting is to deprive yourself of something, and to experience hunger / thirst for spiritual reasons? It's not done for the practical purpose of preventing the slightest drop of H₂O passing your lips, so, if it accidentally does while swimming, what's the problem?

I had a similar discussion with (as it happens) a muslim colleague once who would avoid using any product containing alcohol. Surely the idea of depriving yourself of alcohol relates to drinking it and the after-effects, so why worry about a deodorant containing it? You're not likely to drink it, nor to absorb enough through your armpits for it to have any effect? I must be missing something. :-/

At any rate, if you are a minority group, being excluded from certain things is part of the deal. You exclude yourself voluntarily, you exercise your choice to do so, and, presumably, feel gratified for doing so. I don't see why the majority should pander to it, and thereby miss out.  

All muslims I have known would never want want their beliefs to affect the freedom of others anyway. That they would is just the presumption of those in non-jobs.

Kevin

especially when they could have all wee'd in it!!!
(remembers embarrassment years ago when the local council put a chemical in the water that went purple on contact with urine....my 6yo son stood there and shouted..."Dad, Dad, the water is turning purple here!!!"
We were asked to get out and change. I am still embarrassed, even now.)

When I was at school ......some kid had a dump in the pool ......apparently just "for a laugh". ..the Headmaster was so angry he closed the pool down for a whole term to punish us all.. :-/ :-/......and I went to a supposedly well thought of Grammar school. :-/ :-/

[Kevin Wood]

When I was at school ......some kid had a dump in the pool ......apparently just "for a laugh". ..the Headmaster was so angry he closed the pool down for a whole term to punish us all.. :-/ :-/......and I went to a supposedly well thought of Grammar school. :-/ :-/

We used to have a stream the other side of the fence to the swimming pool. We used to catch newts, sticklebacks, tadpoles, frogs, etc. and lob them over the fence into the swimming pool, then wait for the screams when they were spotted.

Kevin

[Sixstring]

When I was at school ......some kid had a dump in the pool ......apparently just "for a laugh". ..the Headmaster was so angry he closed the pool down for a whole term to punish us all.. :-/ :-/......and I went to a supposedly well thought of Grammar school. :-/ :-/

We used to have a stream the other side of the fence to the swimming pool. We used to catch newts, sticklebacks, tadpoles, frogs, etc. and lob them over the fence into the swimming pool, then wait for the screams when they were spotted.

Kevin

You must of gone to the same school as me ..........we used to take bets on how many girls would get out of the pool, and then do the "real men" act, diving in to get the the newts and frogs out of the pool for them, and look cool  and pull the girls!!  LOL!

[Richie London]

if i lived next door to one i'd have a hog roast barbecue everyday through ramadam.