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Re: Thanks to TB!
« Reply #15 on: 11 April 2008, 13:38:51 »
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What does this upgrade cost good sir ?
Not sure from dealers.  I have rang a few when sorting my prices, and cheapest I got quoted was £85 + VAT, most expensive was something silly like £400, but I don't think they understood what I wanted.  One told me 'it cannot be done'. Muppets.

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Re: Thanks to TB!
« Reply #16 on: 11 April 2008, 13:48:47 »
Next time I'm over one of you guy's ways I'll be calling in for a brew and parting with some beer tokens :)
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« Reply #17 on: 11 April 2008, 13:54:34 »
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Time for a did you know moment.....

Did you know that the autobox upgrade was described as being targeted at the 2.5TD around 2000 model year.

I have a suspicion that its smoother in order to put less load on the auto box clutches.....which for some reason have a habit of failing!
Thats interesting :y, yet also odd  :-/

If it was for 2.5TD, not sure they made a particularly good job of it...  ...never been that impressed with the update on the tractor, esp wrt the change points - pops it in to 4th too early imho.

Additionally, its not as smooth at changing as the petrol maps, though that may be due to the extra torque going through it.  I did wonder if this was a mechanical/hydraulic fault on mine, but all 3 gearboxes (::)) have done it.


From my own personal experience, I would say its very, very worthwhile on all petrol models, not sure I'd say worth the cost on a TD  :-/

I've had lots and lots of positive feedback from petrol ones I've done, and I know you have to.  I've not done a tractor, other than my own, so haven't got a 2nd opinion on it  :-/

We need a guinea pig... ;D

You are assuming that they were trying to make the change smoother....or were actualy trying to take some of the load off the clutches.

Remember that on the diesel the timing cant be retarded to soften the change points like they do on the petrol engine.
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« Reply #18 on: 11 April 2008, 13:59:43 »
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Time for a did you know moment.....

Did you know that the autobox upgrade was described as being targeted at the 2.5TD around 2000 model year.

I have a suspicion that its smoother in order to put less load on the auto box clutches.....which for some reason have a habit of failing!
Thats interesting :y, yet also odd  :-/

If it was for 2.5TD, not sure they made a particularly good job of it...  ...never been that impressed with the update on the tractor, esp wrt the change points - pops it in to 4th too early imho.

Additionally, its not as smooth at changing as the petrol maps, though that may be due to the extra torque going through it.  I did wonder if this was a mechanical/hydraulic fault on mine, but all 3 gearboxes (::)) have done it.


From my own personal experience, I would say its very, very worthwhile on all petrol models, not sure I'd say worth the cost on a TD  :-/

I've had lots and lots of positive feedback from petrol ones I've done, and I know you have to.  I've not done a tractor, other than my own, so haven't got a 2nd opinion on it  :-/

We need a guinea pig... ;D

You are assuming that they were trying to make the change smoother....or were actualy trying to take some of the load off the clutches.

Remember that on the diesel the timing cant be retarded to soften the change points like they do on the petrol engine.
Good point, well presented :y

Still unimpressed with the changepoints though, esp 4th when cruising - slots in at 1500rpm, std tractor power doesn't come in below 2k...
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Re: Thanks to TB!
« Reply #19 on: 11 April 2008, 14:07:40 »
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Still unimpressed with the changepoints though, esp 4th when cruising - slots in at 1500rpm, std tractor power doesn't come in below 2k...

Maybe they figured that if they make it change up before the engine comes on cam the gearbox'll last longer?  ;)

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« Reply #20 on: 11 April 2008, 14:19:13 »
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Still unimpressed with the changepoints though, esp 4th when cruising - slots in at 1500rpm, std tractor power doesn't come in below 2k...

Maybe they figured that if they make it change up before the engine comes on cam the gearbox'll last longer?  ;)

Kevin
For dissing my tractor, I have a good mind to 'Newbie' you if that wasn't so close to the truth...
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Re: Thanks to TB!
« Reply #21 on: 11 April 2008, 14:25:23 »
 :-[

Not dissing the tractor, just trying to fathom the logic behind it. Seems to me a very low shift point for a diesel.

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« Reply #22 on: 11 April 2008, 14:29:20 »
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:-[

Not dissing the tractor, just trying to fathom the logic behind it. Seems to me a very low shift point for a diesel.

Kevin
I know, as someone who has been in the bowels of the tractor, that secretly, you love it ;D
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« Reply #23 on: 11 April 2008, 14:39:41 »
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I know, as someone who has been in the bowels of the tractor, that secretly, you love it

As a matter of fact, I have been dabbling with a tractor engine myself recently. One that some d!p5h!t didn't put any oil in, by the look of its' internals. >:( :-X

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« Reply #24 on: 11 April 2008, 14:46:36 »
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I know, as someone who has been in the bowels of the tractor, that secretly, you love it

As a matter of fact, I have been dabbling with a tractor engine myself recently. One that some d!p5h!t didn't put any oil in, by the look of its' internals. >:( :-X

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LOL. Diesels sometimes take a dislike to oil, and spit all 6.5l of it out. 3 times.

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