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Author Topic: Senator 3.0 24v MPG fuel consumption ?  (Read 4263 times)

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Re: Senator 3.0 24v MPG fuel consumption ?
« Reply #30 on: 30 October 2012, 09:05:32 »

.... the S6 should have  .... & coil pack setup and fine tuned.

It was for the Lotus Carlton/Omega  ;) ;) ;) It used 3 coils from the US GM parts bin.  :y

Did'nt know that  :y

Cracking engine, if only  :'(
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Re: Senator 3.0 24v MPG fuel consumption ?
« Reply #31 on: 30 October 2012, 10:08:02 »

Wise words young Tunnie. :y :)

Although ill thought out!

There was no way the straight six would continue to be developed, it could not meet the stricter emmission standards, was very heavy and to niche, the V6 fitted both front and rear wheel drive platforms and hence there was a BUSINESS CASE for it thanks to the massive volumes.
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Re: Senator 3.0 24v MPG fuel consumption ?
« Reply #32 on: 30 October 2012, 10:16:26 »

Wise words young Tunnie. :y :)

Although ill thought out!

There was no way the straight six would continue to be developed, it could not meet the stricter emmission standards, was very heavy and to niche, the V6 fitted both front and rear wheel drive platforms and hence there was a BUSINESS CASE for it thanks to the massive volumes.

It could have been made lighter though, think it had cast iron heads?

I can understand why they did it from a business perspective, but from an owner, driver, DIY work view the S6 I feel would have been better.

But anything designed for use in multiple environments would be compromised, compared to something designed for a specific place. It has to be said that GM no doubt made a lot more fixing V6's than S6's - Cambelts, cam covers cost us loads, Omegas in their prime doing that as dealer jobs must have been a nice little earner.
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Re: Senator 3.0 24v MPG fuel consumption ?
« Reply #33 on: 30 October 2012, 10:49:26 »

When you speak to the dealers they hardly ever did any work on them, the odd cambelt change but that was about it and you know my view on chains, I would have a belt every day of the week.

You also have to consider that the V6 improved the handling to by shifting the weight rearwards and giving it the 50:50 weight distribution rather then the nose heavy more tail happy Senator setup.

I would guesstimate that the straight six re-development would cost in the order of a 9 figure sum and hence why it never happened.

Also, the V6 is not as bad as people think, cam cover gaskets are what, every 8-10 years or 100K miles of the engine gets serviced with most only truely blowing once the breather block (again due to lack of servicing), cambelt 4years, 40K again pretty easy to do, spark plugs are more challenging but still much easier than many other motors (try doing 6 on a Smart!) plsu the intervals are longer.

Horses for courses and all that.
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Re: Senator 3.0 24v MPG fuel consumption ?
« Reply #34 on: 04 November 2012, 13:50:47 »

.... spark plugs are more challenging but still much easier than many other motors (try doing 6 on a Smart!) plsu the intervals are longer.

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I'll do the Omegas 3 time a day instead of just once on a Smart Roadster (the back end needs to be removed to get the lower 3  :o  :o  :o)
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