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[Nick W]

Just a reminder , in less than 5 years Britain will be in the euro. You may think it a comical assertion today but there are vays of making you join once you need the bailout and you vill need the bailout. The books just don't and never vill balance.

So in five years time when southern Europe has dragged the German and French economies down to the their level, and used up all of the money, where exactly would the bailout come from? Britain joining the Euro at that point would be akin to running into a burning building, grabbing the remote, and dying of smoke inhalation just as your favourite programme starts.

Now don't get me wrong, the Euro imploding will have enormous consequences for Sterling and any other currency in the vicinity. Not being part of it at the time will make things a bit easier though. There are plenty of savings we must make at home, abroad, militarily and politically. None of them will be popular, but each of them would be much easier without being part of the EU.

The EU has proved itself to be overambitious, inept, incompetent, ineffective, inefficient, unchecked and corrupt. Sometimes it is all of those. The idea that the ragbag assortment of European cultures and economies could ever merge into one massive, coherent federal state was clearly never going to work. Any organisation, let alone one that is pretending to be a government,  that cannot audit its accounts for 12 years in a row should have been exterminated years ago.

And no, I'm not going to vote UKIP. They are a one trick pony, that only has a place in British politics until the European question has been resolved. Whatever that resolution turns out to be. Otherwise, they are just playing the fantasy politics that  plagues the Liberals; they know they're unelectable, so can make all sorts of promises that won't need to be honoured.

Finally going back to this post's title, the Yanks clearly have no understanding of our position in Europe. We're the troublemakers that everyone else wishes would stand in the naughty corner and keep quiet.

[Varche]

Very little to differentiate between Tories and One Nation Labour. They are both in it for their egos and not the National Good. These dithering self serving jokers are just kicking the can down the road. In 2/6 years time they won't give a damn what happened.

The worst of it is that the vast majority of the public believe everything is fine and dandy. Looking on the bright side we have a Royal birth to look forward to this year to make things good again. Hello! culture rules Ja!

[cleggy]

They are a one trick pony, that only has a place in British politics until the European question has been resolved.

I don't think so:-

 http://www.ukip.org/content/ukip-policies

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Over 70% of our new laws are made in Europe without our consent,input or even very often our knowledge.
I think Cameron is bluffing,hoping to appease his own eurosceptics and take the wind out of UKIP,s sails. I think hes hoping events will overtake his promises as they did with his last promise of a refurendum.
I dont believe he will ever give the British people a straight in/out vote on the EUSSR.
Nice to see youve come round to the right way of thinking on the EU though Lizzie.

I have been considering the situation for a long time now, and a week in politics is a life time after all!  

It is clear now that Britain cannot, and should not, be involved in an organisation that is falling apart and can do nothing but cause financial difficulties for GB whilst becoming impossible in their constant interference with the administration of our country.

We are a country that has always stood up for our rights and future as a nation, not some state in a republic. We are better than that, and if we are honest with ourselves, we have little in common with EU politics or the countries that form it. In history they have been an enemy of England, then later Great Britain, and I regret to say that their actions politically today are not friendly towards our proud nation, with recently their true colours showing in threats and words of "persuasion".  The USA, our closet allies, are even being sucked in, for their own interests of course, to give GB 'a push'!

I voted "NO" in 1975 to Britain being a member of the European Economic Community, but I went along with the majority and gave the Common Market a chance. Well, after being very patient, and watching the EEC become a monster that is now the EU, it is time to say "NO" again.  Certainly with me when I am 'pushed' in one direction with threats made, I go in the opposite direction as all true Brits should.  We need to be one confident nation again, not being a sad shadow of itself, like Spain and Greece have become.  How is the EU genuinely helping them when they are desperate?

[ozzycat]

  enough is enough time we left the sinking ship