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Re: Dam cam cover oil leak
« Reply #30 on: 28 March 2012, 18:52:33 »

Price from AndyC was about £50 a set when I did mine IIRC.
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Re: Dam cam cover oil leak
« Reply #31 on: 28 March 2012, 19:00:23 »

About £25.00 per side for OE ones

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Is that the price on TC and does that include the o rings  :y

Its much cheaper than trade price. IIRC the cam cover gaskets aren't part of the trade club ;)
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Price from AndyC was about £50 a set when I did mine IIRC.
Not needing them just at the minute , had a check on them when doing the bridge seals but handy to know the price  ;)
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Re: Dam cam cover oil leak
« Reply #32 on: 28 March 2012, 20:57:00 »

Will that be another job you need a hand with lol ;D
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Re: Dam cam cover oil leak
« Reply #33 on: 28 March 2012, 21:26:20 »

What always interests me about this 'problem' is why nobody is prepared to ask why such a finicky, complicated design was considered acceptable for such a simple task? It's typical German engineering, complex and reliant on accurate assembly, but often offers no worthwhile improvement over what everyone else would do.
I can understand the OP's frustration with this, as you don't find troublesome oil leaks on Japanese engines, and if they're down to worn seals you simply replace them. None of this use the annointed gaskets and follow the witchcraft procedure to make sure that it's good for another couple of years! It's not just Vx V6s, BMW straight 6s suffer from oil filled plug wells, and it's hardly uncommon for a Ford engine either!
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Re: Dam cam cover oil leak
« Reply #34 on: 28 March 2012, 22:01:37 »

What always interests me about this 'problem' is why nobody is prepared to ask why such a finicky, complicated design was considered acceptable for such a simple task? It's typical German engineering, complex and reliant on accurate assembly, but often offers no worthwhile improvement over what everyone else would do.
I can understand the OP's frustration with this, as you don't find troublesome oil leaks on Japanese engines, and if they're down to worn seals you simply replace them. None of this use the annointed gaskets and follow the witchcraft procedure to make sure that it's good for another couple of years! It's not just Vx V6s, BMW straight 6s suffer from oil filled plug wells, and it's hardly uncommon for a Ford engine either!

It's not .. genuine seals, fitted properly last a very long time ... the key words here are genuine, and properly. My V6 is on 114000 miles and only its second set of cam cover gaskets, ..... but the job was done correctly when done at 74000 miles .. and then it was only a very slight weep .. but I'm fussy

Keep the breathers clean, change the oil regularly, and you won't have any problems ... it is called maintenance .... .. the art of keeping mechanicals in good fettle  :) 
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Re: Dam cam cover oil leak
« Reply #35 on: 28 March 2012, 22:04:45 »

Will that be another job you need a hand with lol ;D

Have you got a spare set  ;) im leaving the spanner's well and truly alone now till i get fed up of driving it  :P
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Re: Dam cam cover oil leak
« Reply #36 on: 29 March 2012, 06:32:48 »

What always interests me about this 'problem' is why nobody is prepared to ask why such a finicky, complicated design was considered acceptable for such a simple task? It's typical German engineering, complex and reliant on accurate assembly, but often offers no worthwhile improvement over what everyone else would do.
I can understand the OP's frustration with this, as you don't find troublesome oil leaks on Japanese engines, and if they're down to worn seals you simply replace them. None of this use the annointed gaskets and follow the witchcraft procedure to make sure that it's good for another couple of years! It's not just Vx V6s, BMW straight 6s suffer from oil filled plug wells, and it's hardly uncommon for a Ford engine either!

It's not .. genuine seals, fitted properly last a very long time ... the key words here are genuine, and properly. My V6 is on 114000 miles and only its second set of cam cover gaskets, ..... but the job was done correctly when done at 74000 miles .. and then it was only a very slight weep .. but I'm fussy

Keep the breathers clean, change the oil regularly, and you won't have any problems ... it is called maintenance .... .. the art of keeping mechanicals in good fettle  :)

Fair point and I do agree that genuine parts and proper work will do BUT some off-topic thoughts... What is it with these engines that make them leak? I have had e.g. several Toyota 4A-FE- engined cars each with several hundreds of thousands kilometers on the clock without leaking camcovers or anything else leaking... So, IMHO and IME well designed and properly maintained car engine should not leak anything with less than 200 000 km on the clock.
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Re: Dam cam cover oil leak
« Reply #37 on: 29 March 2012, 09:06:59 »

Thing that gets me is they did an engine undate in 2001 and didn't sort it...wtf, and it's not the odd one here and there it's ALL of the v6's..every single one.
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Re: Dam cam cover oil leak
« Reply #38 on: 29 March 2012, 17:47:10 »

Senator S6 engines never had this issue  ::)

If I'm honest I think the straight 6 was a better engine, chain no faffing with belts, it just need updating, removing dizzy cap and updating the rams.
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Re: Dam cam cover oil leak
« Reply #39 on: 29 March 2012, 17:51:40 »

And they were more economical aswell,used to get 38mpg on a run at 80mph constant speed in my senator
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Re: Dam cam cover oil leak
« Reply #40 on: 29 March 2012, 17:59:20 »

And they were more economical aswell,used to get 38mpg on a run at 80mph constant speed in my senator

and what "emissions" legislation existed then ??

and what did a senator weigh ???

apples and pears I'm afraid .. :(
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Re: Dam cam cover oil leak
« Reply #41 on: 29 March 2012, 18:46:08 »

Tunnie and Martin - spot on.Entwood has made some relevant points imo,particularily regarding emissions - Senator weight,similar to Omega iirc - but the S6 engine was a better engine in almost every way ime. :y
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Re: Dam cam cover oil leak
« Reply #42 on: 30 March 2012, 02:36:56 »

And the 12 valve was better than the 24v. Not so powerful, but a better chain. Bombproof.
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Re: Dam cam cover oil leak
« Reply #43 on: 30 March 2012, 06:38:28 »

Straight six should be when you think how many years of development. You can trace it's routes back to the early 60's at least. I've got a soft spot for this engine (that's why I've got two) I also had a 2.6 12 valve with the dual ram set up which I thought was excellent. Mind you compared to the v6 it is a bit of a boat anchor. I feel the v6 used in the Omega was rushed. I also feel the design was for front wheel drive applications and didn't take well to being mounted longitudinally. However when it's on song and performing as it should It's so silky smooth and gutsy. I love the rush it get's when the dual rams go for top end power at around 4,5k RPM. Reminds me of the 24v straight 6 when it clears it's throat at 4k RPM just more refined.
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Re: Dam cam cover oil leak
« Reply #44 on: 30 March 2012, 09:03:55 »

But still not as quick as the other green machine you have in the back of the garage, must be about time to get your mojo back and get her running again  :y

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