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cem_devecioglu

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tyre sanding/cutting
« on: 06 March 2012, 19:21:50 »

I have been forcing my brain cells to use my tires a bit longer..
 
as I'm not making high mileage yearly most of my tire sets are discarded with 6-7 mm thread depth after 5-6 years because of hardened non grippy tire surface :-\  and obviusly thats  big waste..
 
in the past I found tire softeners to be a solution , but not practical as I expected..
 
after a bit of search and thought I found this and wanted to share
http://www.stockcarracing.com/tipstricks/scrp_0505_sanding_race_tires_better_traction/index.html
 
yes.. they sand the tire surface and take the hardened part.. and its logical as the surface goes into many heating cooling cycles and faced various chemicals on road and sun factor.. and japanese even build a machine for that..please watch till the end , you can see the difference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=678QxO5Q5lg
 
and there is a better way also.. as it doesnt heat the surface
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q97gZgN7GOo
 
 
« Last Edit: 06 March 2012, 19:23:27 by cem »
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feeutfo

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Re: tyre sanding/cutting
« Reply #1 on: 06 March 2012, 20:22:22 »

Oh somebody shake him, I'm getting old here. ;D  He'd be better straightening the wheel first surely?

If your going to bin your tyres early anyway, what's to loose? May as well try it...?
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cem_devecioglu

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« Reply #2 on: 06 March 2012, 20:36:59 »

Oh somebody shake him, I'm getting old here. ;D  He'd be better straightening the wheel first surely?

If your going to bin your tyres early anyway, what's to loose? May as well try it...?

 
 ???
Chris,cant understand the relation of your post with mine.. its a technical subject.. would be pleased to hear what you say about it..
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feeutfo

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« Reply #3 on: 06 March 2012, 20:50:39 »

Oh somebody shake him, I'm getting old here. ;D  He'd be better straightening the wheel first surely?

If your going to bin your tyres early anyway, what's to loose? May as well try it...?

 
 ???
Chris,cant understand the relation of your post with mine.. its a technical subject.. would be pleased to hear what you say about it..
He's a 45 stuck on 33  ...? :)

He's half asleep. Wake him up. Shake him.  He talks soooo sloooowleey.... ? :)
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omega3000

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« Reply #4 on: 06 March 2012, 20:54:56 »

I think he's the boss , the worker's would have to do at least 10 a minute  ;D That wheel was wobbling all over the place  :o
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cem_devecioglu

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« Reply #5 on: 06 March 2012, 20:57:21 »

Oh somebody shake him, I'm getting old here. ;D  He'd be better straightening the wheel first surely?

If your going to bin your tyres early anyway, what's to loose? May as well try it...?

 
 ???
Chris,cant understand the relation of your post with mine.. its a technical subject.. would be pleased to hear what you say about it..
He's a 45 stuck on 33  ...? :)

He's half asleep. Wake him up. Shake him.  He talks soooo sloooowleey.... ? :)

seems like tonight I'm having a blonde moment..  :-[  to be expected after a sleepless fearful night.. :-\
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cem_devecioglu

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Re: tyre sanding/cutting
« Reply #6 on: 06 March 2012, 20:59:48 »

Oh somebody shake him, I'm getting old here. ;D  He'd be better straightening the wheel first surely?

If your going to bin your tyres early anyway, what's to loose? May as well try it...?

 
 ???
Chris,cant understand the relation of your post with mine.. its a technical subject.. would be pleased to hear what you say about it..
He's a 45 stuck on 33  ...? :)

He's half asleep. Wake him up. Shake him.  He talks soooo sloooowleey.... ? :)

seems like tonight I'm having a blonde moment..  :-[  to be expected after a sleepless fearful night.. :-\

besides thats the correct speed for audience like me ;D
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feeutfo

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Re: tyre sanding/cutting
« Reply #7 on: 06 March 2012, 21:00:56 »

Oh somebody shake him, I'm getting old here. ;D  He'd be better straightening the wheel first surely?

If your going to bin your tyres early anyway, what's to loose? May as well try it...?

 
 ???
Chris,cant understand the relation of your post with mine.. its a technical subject.. would be pleased to hear what you say about it..
He's a 45 stuck on 33  ...? :)

He's half asleep. Wake him up. Shake him.  He talks soooo sloooowleey.... ? :)

seems like tonight I'm having a blonde moment..  :-[  to be expected after a sleepless fearful night.. :-\
whyzatden cem? Tyres aren't worth that amount of worry?
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cem_devecioglu

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Re: tyre sanding/cutting
« Reply #8 on: 06 March 2012, 21:03:56 »

Oh somebody shake him, I'm getting old here. ;D  He'd be better straightening the wheel first surely?

If your going to bin your tyres early anyway, what's to loose? May as well try it...?

 
 ???
Chris,cant understand the relation of your post with mine.. its a technical subject.. would be pleased to hear what you say about it..
He's a 45 stuck on 33  ...? :)

He's half asleep. Wake him up. Shake him.  He talks soooo sloooowleey.... ? :)

seems like tonight I'm having a blonde moment..  :-[  to be expected after a sleepless fearful night.. :-\
whyzatden cem? Tyres aren't worth that amount of worry?

my worries were about a very different subect..  I was outside..
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feeutfo

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Re: tyre sanding/cutting
« Reply #9 on: 06 March 2012, 21:06:36 »

Hope not too serious...

, my point was if something is broken and to be thrown away, why not try to fix it? If your tyres are for the bin, you have nothing to loose.

For instance, it would have been good to test this on my old Falkens. See if tread wear/uneven profile was to blame.
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Re: tyre sanding/cutting
« Reply #10 on: 06 March 2012, 22:58:29 »

Hmm. Watching with interest. It seems the tyres on the Westfield have transformed into Tunnie granite compound during its' recent period of inactivity. That combined with the fact that I've done about 3,000 miles in it in the last 2 1/2 years and none in the last year....

Mmm. perhaps I'll just bin them. ::)
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cem_devecioglu

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« Reply #11 on: 08 March 2012, 15:32:19 »

and this is the best maintenance video I have ever seen ;D ;D ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eVCsZUL6RI

seriously sanding the tires can be watched also ;D :y
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« Reply #12 on: 08 March 2012, 15:59:46 »

.. although it begs the question as to why you wouldn't just take it to a private road somewhere, light up the back tyres for a while, swap them with the front and repeat...

.. and if you're going to be that anal about a Scalextric car you need help. ;D
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« Reply #13 on: 08 March 2012, 16:38:37 »

Yes, exactly, why not take the car out for a 'spirited' long drive, and do a couple of 'enthusiastic' corners to take a bit of tread off?  :y
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Re: tyre sanding/cutting
« Reply #14 on: 09 March 2012, 02:27:14 »

you can also try what we use to use on drag days at avon park...

spray bleach onto tyre treads & good bit of revs dump clutch & light up the tyres bleach sofens the rubber compound & lighting them up (burnout) will remove aprox 1mm tread per 30 seconds, & make them sticky also good for track days too!!

also another way of resoftening rubber is to let tyres down to 20psi & have a short F1 style weive up & down the road that will scrub the tyres on front & heat them up wearing the tread but not to low pressure or ull fk the sidewalls!!

i have also found out that the harder the rubber compound the worse they get when worn, some tyres will do 30k on 1st 3mm tread & only 10k on last 4mm

others will burn the soft 3mm of the tread & go very hard at 4mm & have shite grip & will not wear out but you get pissed off with the grip level u bin them anyway!! (conti are bad for this!!)

tyre manufactures engineer this into there tyres im sure somebody may post a link on tyre sidewall meanings but if i rem the lower the number the softer the tread... 180 220 240 280 320 360 400 etc etc so worth checking when buying tyres i try to go for a 220 it will have even wear all the way threw tread depth... also traction & temp ratings A AA B etc meaning the running temp tyre will grip at its best etc...

i Dont know of anybody in uk sanding tyres but im sure if u jack both rears in the air & leave in 1st gear on tick over you could use a pad sander on them??

Not as bad as me cutting new tread into a tyre with slick edges with an angle grinder to get another 1000miles outa them  :-\
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