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Clonking steering still .
« on: 08 March 2012, 21:51:02 »

Inspection of the suspension parts today found me replacing 2 very worn out track rod ends . Good job done i thought  :)
Just took the car out and the clonking is still there and not made any difference  >:( , its had new anti roll bar bushes and the track rod ends  >:( no play in drop links so now i dont know what else it can be  ::) ::)
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Re: Clonking steering still .
« Reply #1 on: 08 March 2012, 21:56:31 »

Could be anything, including a loose bumper. Anything. Where drop links checked with both wheels jacked?
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Re: Clonking steering still .
« Reply #2 on: 08 March 2012, 22:01:24 »

Could be anything, including a loose bumper. Anything. Where drop links checked with both wheels jacked?

Im guessing this is the problem then because no i didnt raise both wheels when checking ...just did one side at a time  :-X Def not a loose bumper , the car clonks like the suspension's going to fall off over the slightest of bumps ...rattling and chattering that i can feel through the steering wheel .

Sorry would just like to add that if jacking to get both wheels off the ground where does the jack go to achieve that  ???
« Last Edit: 08 March 2012, 22:04:47 by eatmydust »
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Re: Clonking steering still .
« Reply #3 on: 08 March 2012, 22:05:37 »

Yet checking the steering idler arm cos I've changed mine twice in a year and if it does again it's having a genuine vauxhall one fitted
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Re: Clonking steering still .
« Reply #4 on: 08 March 2012, 22:07:48 »

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Sorry would just like to add that if jacking to get both wheels off the ground where does the jack go to achieve that  ???

Just check each side at a time ie jack each side at a time.  :y :y
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Re: Clonking steering still .
« Reply #5 on: 08 March 2012, 22:10:26 »

Yet checking the steering idler arm cos I've changed mine twice in a year and if it does again it's having a genuine vauxhall one fitted

How do you check to see if thats worn  :-\

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Sorry would just like to add that if jacking to get both wheels off the ground where does the jack go to achieve that  ???

Just check each side at a time ie jack each side at a time.  :y :y

Yes thats what i did andy , getting confused i thought chris meant raise the car so both wheels were off the ground  :-\
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Re: Clonking steering still .
« Reply #6 on: 08 March 2012, 22:13:31 »

Yet checking the steering idler arm cos I've changed mine twice in a year and if it does again it's having a genuine vauxhall one fitted

How do you check to see if thats worn  :-\

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Sorry would just like to add that if jacking to get both wheels off the ground where does the jack go to achieve that  ???

Just check each side at a time ie jack each side at a time.  :y :y

Yes thats what i did andy , getting confused i thought chris meant raise the car so both wheels were off the ground  :-\

You'll should find a duff drop link with either/both wheels raised  ;)
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Re: Clonking steering still .
« Reply #7 on: 08 March 2012, 22:22:59 »

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duff drop link 

Very minimal play in droplinks , ill check again tomorrow .... weight off each wheel , one at a time is how i did it first time .
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Re: Clonking steering still .
« Reply #8 on: 08 March 2012, 22:29:50 »

Afraid not. If I understamd what's typed correctly to post 6.

If only one wheel is off the floor, and all the weight on the other, the roll bar will be so loaded and twisted It will take up the play in the drop link with such force that you won't be able to feel any play at all.

With both wheels level in ride hight, which is best achieved with both wheels off the floor for access, using axle stands, the roll bar will be unloaded/untwisted and any play can be easily felt by pulling the drop link to roll bar joint up and down by hand.

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Re: Clonking steering still .
« Reply #9 on: 08 March 2012, 22:31:47 »

Yet checking the steering idler arm cos I've changed mine twice in a year and if it does again it's having a genuine vauxhall one fitted

How do you check to see if thats worn  :-\

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Sorry would just like to add that if jacking to get both wheels off the ground where does the jack go to achieve that  ???

Just check each side at a time ie jack each side at a time.  :y :y

Yes thats what i did andy , getting confused i thought chris meant raise the car so both wheels were off the ground  :-\

You'll should find a duff drop link with either/both wheels raised  ;)
The anti-roll bar is a bit meaty. I found that it was easy to detect a duff drop link once I had undone one end of one link.

While all the links were still in place it took a good shove to move the end of the bar to cause the clunk.

With one wheel up, and one wheel down, I couldn't shift it.
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Re: Clonking steering still .
« Reply #10 on: 08 March 2012, 22:35:56 »

Yet checking the steering idler arm cos I've changed mine twice in a year and if it does again it's having a genuine vauxhall one fitted

How do you check to see if thats worn  :-\

....

Sorry would just like to add that if jacking to get both wheels off the ground where does the jack go to achieve that  ???

Just check each side at a time ie jack each side at a time.  :y :y

Yes thats what i did andy , getting confused i thought chris meant raise the car so both wheels were off the ground  :-\

You'll should find a duff drop link with either/both wheels raised  ;)
The anti-roll bar is a bit meaty. I found that it was easy to detect a duff drop link once I had undone one end of one link.

While all the links were still in place it took a good shove to move the end of the bar to cause the clunk.

With one wheel up, and one wheel down, I couldn't shift it.
Ok thanks for all advice i will check droplinks again  ;)

Thats where i been going wrong then , need to check with both wheels up off the ground  ;)
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Re: Clonking steering still .
« Reply #11 on: 09 March 2012, 08:59:08 »

Just a quick question , not had the wheels off yet but from what i can remember does the anti roll bar connect to the drop links ? And can i replace each drop link one at a time    ie: jack one side up remove/replace then do the other side without puting undue pressure on the drop links  ??? Just a thought that if its jacked up on one side it could spring off and i might not get the drop link back on ?
« Last Edit: 09 March 2012, 09:02:22 by eatmydust »
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Re: Clonking steering still .
« Reply #12 on: 09 March 2012, 09:20:39 »

Yet checking the steering idler arm cos I've changed mine twice in a year and if it does again it's having a genuine vauxhall one fitted

Cheap pettern ones are rubbish and most haev play from the day they are fitted!
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Re: Clonking steering still .
« Reply #13 on: 09 March 2012, 14:38:21 »

check ya top bush's-would'nt surprise me if thats ya problem -with front end is up in air try pulling wheel upwards -bet you got play there mate :y
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Re: Clonking steering still .
« Reply #14 on: 09 March 2012, 17:43:14 »

check ya top bush's-would'nt surprise me if thats ya problem -with front end is up in air try pulling wheel upwards -bet you got play there mate :y
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Just as well i checked everything as the track rod ends were hanging on for dear life , not done any work on the car today as my legs playing up  :( I bought the drop links so thats the next job soon as im fit again . Will check the top bush while im there , prob asked this before but forgot ... how do i get to the top bush to replace if it needs doing .

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