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[Lampynoiseboy]

Good point, like I said, I have no idea how it's worked out

As per usual though, it now appears as if we're being ripped off....tax, tax and and ooooooo, have some more taxes

Or maybe it's not!

I did wonder why the bridge is charged for, I mean why not double the tunnel price & make the bridge free? No-one will drive to Blackwall to save £3 going north.
Traffic would flow much better with no tolls s/bound, and it's what they do with the severn(?) bridge to wales.....you only pay one way
The figures suggest it's equal traffic in both directions so why not?

I realise that they need staff (dangerous goods in tunnel convoy, close bridge when it's a bit blowy), but that's what car tax is for right

No, it's a duty that you pay in order to have the right to keep/use a motor vehicle on a public road.

Which is then used for the upkeep of the roads i believe?

[Lampynoiseboy]

What we ought to do in Britain (perhaps) is to adopt the Continental method. The A22 from Spain into Portugal has no toll booths and thus no cash option from Dec 8th 2011. You have to organise either a transponder for your vehicle or prepay.

Here is the rigmarole you have to go through although the Porkancheese would have you believe it is easy.

This may be of use to people traveling to Portugal - Via Spain
Esteemed Customer,

Thank you for your contact, which deserved our full attention.

Please be advised that in order to purchase one of our virtual prepaid solutions for vehicles registered abroad, you must:

1 - Register on the CTT website www.ctt.pt
2 - Access the link:
http://portagens.ctt.pt
and select the option "Serviços disponiveis - matriculas estrangeiras" in the menu on top of the webpage.
3 - Enter the username and password chosen when registering on the CTT website (or register on the website if you have not already).
4 - Fill out the form with information of your vehicle (country of registration, license plate number, phone number and class of toll - respectively) and click "Seguinte".
5- Select the first date when you shall pass through the toll (by clicking on the timetable icon) and then select the type of prepaid that you want to purchase. After this selection, click "Seguinte".
6- Finally, complete the purchase by indicating the details of your credit card (you can also check the terms and conditions of the prepaid you selected to purchase).

Remember that for any clarification or more detailed information, please visit our website http://portagens.ctt.pt or call CTT Line, available weekdays and Saturdays from 8am to 22pm, on 707 26 26 26.

Best regards,

Vanessa Vicente
Customer Service

I have a tag, so I don't have to pay cash, but the point is, it shouldn't be chargable anyway!

And further to that, I believe as a business, ur have to provide a receipt for goods or services.....how come not there then?
The original reason for getting a tag (when it only saved 7p), was so I got a receipt!!

Upside locals get it cheaper? so they get conned less? why? I've nothing against the people of Gravesend etc, but if they use the bridge, they will wear it out just as much, so if it's to pay for upkeep then........and the same applies to those with a blue badge (my son is disabled, his mum can use it for nothing), so I agree with you Murph

Varche- Very good point!!

Amigo- If you'd ever used the ferry you's see why it's free, although they do keep threatening to withdraw that, when it actually works!

£1.50 between 7am & 10pm for cars, overnight is free, which has helped as I do a lot of return trips outside these hours


Sorry for the lack of quotes, not easy on a blackberry!

[albitz]

Good point, like I said, I have no idea how it's worked out

As per usual though, it now appears as if we're being ripped off....tax, tax and and ooooooo, have some more taxes

Or maybe it's not!

I did wonder why the bridge is charged for, I mean why not double the tunnel price & make the bridge free? No-one will drive to Blackwall to save £3 going north.
Traffic would flow much better with no tolls s/bound, and it's what they do with the severn(?) bridge to wales.....you only pay one way
The figures suggest it's equal traffic in both directions so why not?

I realise that they need staff (dangerous goods in tunnel convoy, close bridge when it's a bit blowy), but that's what car tax is for right

No, it's a duty that you pay in order to have the right to keep/use a motor vehicle on a public road.

Which is then used for the upkeep of the roads i believe?

Nope,not any more.That link was severed years ago.Its just a tax on owning a vehicle.

[Lampynoiseboy]

Ok, but we don't pay to use any other roads (yet)

[Martian]

Registered disabled vehicles cross for free which is something I suppose.

I've nothing against disabled people and I can see this getting me shot now, but why should disabled vehicles get to cross for free??    

No offence is meant towards anyone disabled in any shape or form. Both my parents are disabled, in case anyone tells me I have no idea what it's like

If someone is so disabled that they qualify for the blue badge, it's odds on they aren't working which means they will have limited funds to live on.....hence the concession to make life slightly easier for them.

[P6UL K]

It's yet another example of the motorist getting screwed by the powers that be.

The original deal was that the crossing would be charged until the construction costs had been recouped - that happened a few years ago, at which point the goalposts were moved and we were told that the charges were now for the upkeep of the tunnels and bridge.
When that became untenable they sold the whole shebang and said "not our problem" while the new owners said "hey it's our bridge and we'll charge if we want to!"

The only upside is that local residents can get a tag granting them crossings @ 20p per trip - pay a tenner and get a tag loaded with a tenner's credit.

Registered disabled vehicles cross for free which is something I suppose.

Only after you've used your first FREE 50 trips 

[Murph]

It's yet another example of the motorist getting screwed by the powers that be.

The original deal was that the crossing would be charged until the construction costs had been recouped - that happened a few years ago, at which point the goalposts were moved and we were told that the charges were now for the upkeep of the tunnels and bridge.
When that became untenable they sold the whole shebang and said "not our problem" while the new owners said "hey it's our bridge and we'll charge if we want to!"

The only upside is that local residents can get a tag granting them crossings @ 20p per trip - pay a tenner and get a tag loaded with a tenner's credit.

Registered disabled vehicles cross for free which is something I suppose.

Only after you've used your first FREE 50 trips 

Aaah but you will have paid a tenner for the tag.
£10 for 50 free trips still averages out at 20p per trip.

[Lampynoiseboy]

Registered disabled vehicles cross for free which is something I suppose.

I've nothing against disabled people and I can see this getting me shot now, but why should disabled vehicles get to cross for free??    

No offence is meant towards anyone disabled in any shape or form. Both my parents are disabled, in case anyone tells me I have no idea what it's like

If someone is so disabled that they qualify for the blue badge, it's odds on they aren't working which means they will have limited funds to live on.....hence the concession to make life slightly easier for them.

Ah, hadn't considered that angle, fair point