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[Webby the Bear]

Good evening chaps, hope you're all well 

This weekend I am going to do the Paper Clip Test, see what codes come up on Ralf's dashboard as it definitely would be nice to fix the old boy. Plus the codes that I get may see me doing all sorts of weird and wonderful jobs which is all marvellous for the experience 

However, I feel it's really important that I don't lose sight of what my intentions for the car were; which was to practise a set list of jobs including servicing, cam cover gaskets, timing belt, head gasket, brakes etc etc.

As you know, if you've read my threads, I've been overly paranoid about doing done the servicing and I've done the cam cover gaskets. Absolutely loving it and (touch wood) not hit any problems.

SO, what next for Bear on his quest to learn mechanics? Well I've come to the conclusion I should do brake pad and disc replacement. A couple of reasons. Money playing a big part. If I was to do timing belt I'd need the locking kit and to be honest I'd rather spend the dosh on a jacking kit being this early in my ''career''..... buying a push chair before size 12 running shoes is the theory 

Now, I've found this video on brake pad replacement...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZHf85IXEIY

I chose this vid just cos I know you won't want to sit there for hours to see the whole job. Yes this guy is an complete retard but in short it should be this simple surely?? However, there's a few things I've noticed he doesn't do that perhaps he should.....

[Webby the Bear]

1.) no use of anti seize or silicone paste
2.) he doesn't appear to open the brake valve bleeder thingy
3. he doesnt pinch the brake pipe so fluid isn't forced back to the master cylinder.

if i do what he does PLUS the above. will that be ok?

[jonnycool]

Hang about, hang about....did you get it running yet?

[omegod]

Only a touch of coppaslip on the pad guides
Never opened the bleed nipple
Never pinched the brake pipe

Get the caliper off, hang it securely and replace the disc+pads

[Webby the Bear]

Hang about, hang about....did you get it running yet?

  yes mate got it running. it sounds better but still a bit ''dugga dugga'' like.... so paper clipping this weekend and see what we jolly well get 

[Webby the Bear]

Only a touch of coppaslip on the pad guides
Never opened the bleed nipple
Never pinched the brake pipe

Get the caliper off, hang it securely and replace the disc+pads

ok, thanks OMG 

Do the discs come off easily?

and can i do one side and have the car on one axel stand or should i use two always?

[RobG]

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90538.0

[Webby the Bear]

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=90538.0

'dangle berries'! I looked for that as well 

So no pinching of line needed or opening bleed valve??? i thought you had to do that to allow the piston to go back in  also i have a huge screw driver and i mean its massive  .... will i be able to turn piston like that? is it a cross or a one line indent (the piston that is)

[omega3000]

   

this guy is an complete retard

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZHf85IXEIY   

Good old scotty / slap happy no nonsense mechanic . Hitting your ratchet with a hammer 

Nice to see nothing is phasing you steve , brakes are quite easy considering the jobs you have already done . Keep up the good work 

[Dr_X]

Just done mine couple of tips for what its worth......

If your doing all four discs and pads keep an eye on the master cylinder as it can over flow with all those new pads in there..
Sort out a nice G clamp or ratchet clamp for pushing the pistons back in to get your new pads in..
Bit of wet and dry to dress the brake pins so they are nice and smooth.

Good luck

[aaronjb]

You don't need to open the bleed nipples - some people have managed to invert seals in the master cylinder/ABS unit by not doing so (though I never have .. touch wood!) but one advantage of opening the bleed nipple is that you're evacuating the cruddiest bit of the brake fluid (the bit down by the calliper that gets hot/boiled/worked hard).

The front brake piston should just push back in - with the nipple open possibly by hand (otherwise old brake pad + G-clamp is my favourite method).

Rear brake pistons often 'screw' back in - not sure on the Omega as I've not done one yet. If they do, though, you usually need a special tool (about a tenner for a basic one) as you need a tool with two 'pins'.. although in a pinch once I did use a large open ended spanner with another spanner on the ring end. Ahem. Only a slight bodge..

[Andy B]

......
Rear brake pistons often 'screw' back in - not sure on the Omega as I've not done one yet. If they do,  ....

They don't 

[Webby the Bear]

Cheers folks. I think i'm just going to jack it up a\nd see how it goes 

here's a random thought............

if i was to take the old pads out, screw (or push) the piston back and then put the OLD pads back, presumably what would happen is that when i came to pumping the brake pedal it would just take ages as the piston would need to move out again to the spot it was in previously? as i said weird thought but i am weird so thats cool 

also i take it that what looks like white string on the guide is the sensor wiring? and i presume it's location and hook up points will become imediately apparent once i gert the wheel off?

cheers again all.. love all the comments 

[Dr_X]

Might be worth buying a sensor as they brake  really easily....

[Andy B]

Cheers folks. I think i'm just going to jack it up a\nd see how it goes 

here's a random thought............

if i was to take the old pads out, screw (or push) the piston back and then put the OLD pads back, presumably what would happen is that when i came to pumping the brake pedal it would just take ages as the piston would need to move out again to the spot it was in previously? as i said weird thought but i am weird so thats cool 

also i take it that what looks like white string on the guide is the sensor wiring? and i presume it's location and hook up points will become imediately apparent once i gert the wheel off?

cheers again all.. love all the comments 

Yes it would take a few presses of the pedal to push the old pads back to where they were .......... always push the pedal till you get a firm pedal after replacing pads. It's un-nerving if you do it on the road at the end of the street! 
The white string looking stuff is .............. white string!  It's taking the weight of the caliper off the brake hose. 
It's obvious how the sensor clips to the pad.