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LPG for those who are not good at DIY
« on: 18 March 2012, 14:11:02 »

My daily commute is going up from 0 to 70 miles in April. In a way I am really happy as I will be swapping from rail to road and that means a happier me. But given the distance I will be doing over the next year or so, I wondered about an LPG system. I was going to post in the other LPG thread but decided not to clutter up his thread with my questions. I have browsed the posts on the site, but a few specifics:

1. The Stag kit seems recommended, but any particular variant? 300/premium etc

2. Any benefit in the extra cost of a Prins system? Again which variant?

3. I am not at all capable of DIY, particularly something as elaborate as LPG, both due to time and skill constraints. So, although there is a general consensus to DIY, any recommended installers? I am willing to travel if its worth it.

4. Are spare wheel shaped tanks an option on the Omega as I really dont want to loose boot space if possible.

Thanks in advance for any help.
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« Reply #1 on: 18 March 2012, 16:16:43 »

if you are considering lpg, have a look also on liquid phase gas injection systems.. both telefelex and vialle have good systems and prices better than prince.. I was in search for a friend and teleflex told me this summer about june, kits will be ready.. probably will be early in UK..
 
ps: new systems use petrol injectors so they cut and drill less..
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« Reply #2 on: 18 March 2012, 17:42:25 »

Ideally info re: existing/easily available kits. By June, I will already have covered 5k. So would like to get this sorted sooner rather than later.
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Re: LPG for those who are not good at DIY
« Reply #3 on: 18 March 2012, 18:21:34 »

if you are considering lpg, have a look also on liquid phase gas injection systems.. both telefelex and vialle have good systems and prices better than prince.. I was in search for a friend and teleflex told me this summer about june, kits will be ready.. probably will be early in UK..
 
ps: new systems use petrol injectors so they cut and drill less..

Liquid injection is still a "Black Art" in the UK ;)
Ideally info re: existing/easily available kits. By June, I will already have covered 5k. So would like to get this sorted sooner rather than later.

Best recommendation I can give you if you are looking to go professional is to use the place the Entwood had his converted at. It is the only "Professional" conversion I have seen that was up to a standard I would expect ;) But it comes at a price :o

Toroidal tanks are an option but (in a Saloon) the range is small and in an Estate there is the option to raise the floor to get a decent range

Where in the country are you and what's the car?
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« Reply #4 on: 18 March 2012, 18:33:23 »

Had a PM from Entwood, apparently the chap who did it is no longer there.

I am based in SE London/Kent.

Was about to PM you for some more advice. I would love to have a go at doing it myself, but I work better on people than cars.
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« Reply #5 on: 18 March 2012, 18:50:44 »

Ideally info re: existing/easily available kits. By June, I will already have covered 5k. So would like to get this sorted sooner rather than later.

its definitely worth imo..  the prince dealer who I talked to said that they started the installations but their liquid phase kits price is double the price of their "normal" kit.. :o  I was shocked when I heard the price.. but for large suvs its relatively cheap as their petrol and diesel models have huge price differences.. its around 2KŁ for prince and teleflex will be around 1KŁ (here-both kit and installation)..
 
ps: prices are for 4 pot..
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« Reply #6 on: 18 March 2012, 18:58:54 »

if you are considering lpg, have a look also on liquid phase gas injection systems.. both telefelex and vialle have good systems and prices better than prince.. I was in search for a friend and teleflex told me this summer about june, kits will be ready.. probably will be early in UK..
 
ps: new systems use petrol injectors so they cut and drill less..

Liquid injection is still a "Black Art" in the UK ;)
Ideally info re: existing/easily available kits. By June, I will already have covered 5k. So would like to get this sorted sooner rather than later.

Best recommendation I can give you if you are looking to go professional is to use the place the Entwood had his converted at. It is the only "Professional" conversion I have seen that was up to a standard I would expect ;) But it comes at a price :o

Toroidal tanks are an option but (in a Saloon) the range is small and in an Estate there is the option to raise the floor to get a decent range

Where in the country are you and what's the car?

 here also.. but I have info that BRC , Teleflex have workers in  course and will start soon.. :-\ 
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Re: LPG for those who are not good at DIY
« Reply #7 on: 18 March 2012, 19:02:47 »

Had a PM from Entwood, apparently the chap who did it is no longer there.

I am based in SE London/Kent.

Was about to PM you for some more advice. I would love to have a go at doing it myself, but I work better on people than cars.

If you can change the cambelt then you can fit LPG (as a general rule) ;)
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« Reply #8 on: 18 March 2012, 19:11:52 »

Oh well, the day I change a cambelt is the day that petrol costs 50p/L
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« Reply #9 on: 18 March 2012, 19:17:01 »

Oh well, the day I change a cambelt is the day that petrol costs 50p/L
Ahh :-X :-X :-X

You could try asking for recommendations on the LPG Forum :-\
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« Reply #10 on: 18 March 2012, 19:18:35 »

Thanks for that link. Is there anyone you recommend?
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« Reply #11 on: 18 March 2012, 19:21:09 »

Thanks for that link. Is there anyone you recommend?

I've not seen any of their work but a chap called Woody (in Southend) comes quite highly recommended and I've had some dealings over the phone with him (for advice in the past). Tubbs also seems to know his oats :-\
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« Reply #12 on: 18 March 2012, 23:37:24 »

I have sent Woody an email. Tubbs is probably too far away. Thanks for your help LD.
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« Reply #13 on: 18 March 2012, 23:40:04 »

Don't know what their prices are like though :-\
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« Reply #14 on: 19 March 2012, 07:36:42 »

Awaiting a reply. Will update you once I know.

Is Tunnie's quote re: removing the manifold correct? ie :if they dont remove it, then run away?

I really dont have the time for a DIY install, which is why I am willing to pay for it be done properly. The only free time I have is the weekend, which I choose to spend with my son or engage in my research.
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