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[twiglet]

Why do you need to plaster a wall, if you are then going to tile over it? 

[marrus69]

you need help ill do it for you,sounds like you will be doing most off the work anyway,i will not tile over bathroom floor tiles thay wood need to come up if you want to,and i can check your plumbing for you,im working nights at paddington at moment so could come one evening to look when siuts you,i charge some where around £25 sqm thats all as i can teach you to grout the tiles if you are ok with this i will pm my number,im off to bed.

[tunnie]

Why do you need to plaster a wall, if you are then going to tile over it? 

Well, not knowing about these things, I was told that when the old tiles come off, you need to plaster the wall before you can apply tiles 

[jonathanh]

do it yourself

floor tiles off then lay 6mm ply and vinyl over the top.

as to wall tiles, suggest lift them off carefully and then retile - unlikely you'll need to re plaster

[tunnie]

you need help ill do it for you,sounds like you will be doing most off the work anyway,i will not tile over bathroom floor tiles thay wood need to come up if you want to,and i can check your plumbing for you,im working nights at paddington at moment so could come one evening to look when siuts you,i charge some where around £25 sqm thats all as i can teach you to grout the tiles if you are ok with this i will pm my number,im off to bed.

Sounds good, feel free to pop over and let me know what price you can do it for. Its dead easy for you, just take the train to Greenford from Paddington, usually Platform 12 or 13, its the 1st stop. Acton Main Line, takes just 6 mins! 

[TheBoy]

Still think you need to take off bath panel to check under bath plumbing.

[Big_Al]

Around £13 per sq. mtr. going rate for labour only, tile & grout

13 quid           Crikey ! even the Polish guys charge more than that Rob

Wouldn't go anywhere near a small bathroom on those rates .    £30.00  m2  round here labour only

Most small to average bathrooms in my experience have 15 -20 m2  of tiles  . . . so £450  -  £600    in this area.

Suppose it varies from area to area.

[the alarming man]

Why do you need to plaster a wall, if you are then going to tile over it? 

if the walls not flat some of your tiles wont sit properly so by plastering you will have a flat service......IF it is plastered correctley

[omegod]

It really is a piece of piss to fit like for like suites then tile the walls and floor, you use the same pipes etc and just chop the old stuff off then use flexi compression fittings for the new stuff. Tiling just takes logical thinking for the start and finish points and somme patience.

I am no genius but did mine in about 4 days for about £900 all in including suite, wall and floor tiles, a new electric shower and spotlights.

[Michael2.6]

Why not arm yourself with a electric breaker with a wide chisel in

take the tiles and plaster off in one go

use a damp proofer like K11 brushed onto the wall

dot and dab plaster board to the wall

and then put your tiles on.

[martin42]

tip for you,before you tile,run clear silicone around bath,then once tiled run white around bath,it the 1st seal fails its still proctected by the clear 

[SIR Philbutt]

Tunnie

£25 - £30 is the normal price for Tiling.

The surface do'es not need to be perfect to tile on. Yes it would make it easier, just spread and place, but if when you take off the tiles and the wall behind is in good condition (a few pot holes do not matter) you can "dot & dab" them on. Make sure the wall is prepared with PVA or even better an acrylic sealant and use a good flexible adhesive (eg granfix) or a good premixed (not B&Q) and grout

If the wall is bad after being knocked off get someone to re-board (not really a DIY job) with water resistant board as mentioned. If this is on the wall the bath is on then i'm afraid the bath should come out and refitted after boarding. Where it is being tiled it do'es not need to be skimmed just prep'ed as before.

As also mentioned make sure the bath is level and is firmly fixed to the wall and floor. bath movement is what normally causes the seal to fail. If already sealed remove old sealant a re-seal before and after tiling.

The floor should be removed if going to be re-tiled. as mentioned make sure the flooring (T&G or whatever) is fixed firmly to joists, then ply area using screws about 4" apart. again use a flexi adhesive and grout

Please be assured that your own bathroom is the best place to practice and learn and with the many on here help is always at hand. It may take a while to do but by the looks of it waaayyyy cheaper

If you need help anytime my number is on my website |
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[Big_Al]

Tunnie  - good advice from Philbutt in last post above

plenty of experienced guys  on here . Much better ( and cheaper) to do it yourself . .  just take your time > look on the tiling forums they are quite helpful

PM me if you want to know anything.  No problem - more than willing to give you as much advice as you want .

Setting out tiling properly is the "secret"   to a professional finish. Getting the cuts in the right place etc.  tiling around a window can be really tricky for a novice  . . but its all about foresight to where you start with the first tiles. Again tiling forums will guide you on this

Regards, Al

[tunnie]

Many thanks to everyone who has responded, some fantastic advice has been read & understood.

A plan is being formulated with help of OOF members   

[Shackeng]

Tunnie, I have literally just finished tiling and grouting my son's bathroom 3m square, 2.5m high. Wall condition terrible, old Victorian terrace. Honestly it is not a difficult job, just got to keep them straight and square, I use a laser level. Plenty of advice online, if you can work on your Omega, you can tile and grout. I strongly advise not to use the combined tile and grout cement which gives a very coarse finish to the grout. Use dedicated cement, and also use the powder grout which requires mixing, not the ready mixed, which also gives a coarse finish. The powder type is much easier to apply and gives a better finish to the pointed grout lines, and as it is a softer mix, it is easy to finish using a wet finger or thumb. Only mix up enough to grout a sq. m at a time. When grouting using the powder type, leave it a few minutes after application before 'pointing'. HTH