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I_want_an_Omega

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Stopping water hammer .............
« on: 15 April 2012, 17:33:31 »

Ok, as per title. How do you stop the effect of water hammer, i.e. noise in water pipes when the washing machine etc suddenly closes a valve. The momentum of the flowing water then causes the pipes to rattle.

I've seen various preventers for about £30 or so - but are they any good at all and does anyone have any experience of them - or any other way of stopping the problem?

TIA
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Re: Stopping water hammer .............
« Reply #1 on: 15 April 2012, 17:47:18 »

I can't help you Rob but don't you mean WATER TORTURE from your daughter. ;D ;D ;D

By the way what did you do about her car seat?
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Re: Stopping water hammer .............
« Reply #2 on: 15 April 2012, 18:24:32 »

I dont suffer from that problem and i have quite high pressure.

Surely finding the pipe thats 'rattling' about and clamping it down so it carnt move must be a cheaper fix.
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« Reply #3 on: 15 April 2012, 18:26:41 »

Ok, as per title. How do you stop the effect of water hammer, i.e. noise in water pipes when the washing machine etc suddenly closes a valve. The momentum of the flowing water then causes the pipes to rattle.

I've seen various preventers for about £30 or so - but are they any good at all and does anyone have any experience of them - or any other way of stopping the problem?

TIA

In my experience, the pipe rattles against a wall or another pipe for example. This is often caused by the pipes not being fixed at frequent enough intervals to the wall. Need to use more of these http://allpipefittings.org/_cache/Browse/img/Screw_Pipe_Fittings_0.jpg
...maybe...
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Re: Stopping water hammer .............
« Reply #4 on: 15 April 2012, 18:27:36 »

its trapped air,try holding your hand over tap and turn on trying not to let the water out,also try closing the stop cock down about to slow pressure down.

I_want_an_Omega

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Re: Stopping water hammer .............
« Reply #5 on: 15 April 2012, 18:48:18 »

I can't help you Rob but don't you mean WATER TORTURE from your daughter. ;D ;D ;D

By the way what did you do about her car seat?

Still under discussion. New seat cover is still available via Andy C, but @ £118 + Vat it seems a lot to spend on a Corsa which is starting to fray around the edges.  :'(
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I_want_an_Omega

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« Reply #6 on: 15 April 2012, 18:51:14 »

its trapped air,try holding your hand over tap and turn on trying not to let the water out,also try closing the stop cock down about to slow pressure down.

No it isn't. My plumber mate has told me it's caused by the momentum of the flowing water which has to stop instantly.
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I_want_an_Omega

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Re: Stopping water hammer .............
« Reply #7 on: 15 April 2012, 18:54:04 »

I dont suffer from that problem and i have quite high pressure.

Surely finding the pipe thats 'rattling' about and clamping it down so it carnt move must be a cheaper fix.

Thinking about it, the pipe that is doing the rattling is one of those 1/4 flexible ones which connects to the fridge to provide cooled drinking water & ice. I'll have to see if there is a way of securing it a bit - which may be a problem as the pipe has to be accessible to replace the in-line filter which needs replacing every year or so. Food for thought though - thanks  :y.
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Taxi_Driver

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« Reply #8 on: 15 April 2012, 18:59:38 »

I dont suffer from that problem and i have quite high pressure.

Surely finding the pipe thats 'rattling' about and clamping it down so it carnt move must be a cheaper fix.

Thinking about it, the pipe that is doing the rattling is one of those 1/4 flexible ones which connects to the fridge to provide cooled drinking water & ice. I'll have to see if there is a way of securing it a bit - which may be a problem as the pipe has to be accessible to replace the in-line filter which needs replacing every year or so. Food for thought though - thanks  :y.

Perhaps a cable tie or a wire tie to fix it to part of the back of the fridge would to the job......
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« Reply #9 on: 15 April 2012, 19:22:39 »

water hammer is usally caused by a ballvalve washer or a tap that has play in the spindle,if its the washing machine is it just cold mains feed or hot and cold,could be a faulty valve in washing machine ,but check pipe works is secured aswell...
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I_want_an_Omega

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« Reply #10 on: 15 April 2012, 19:45:48 »

water hammer is usally caused by a ballvalve washer or a tap that has play in the spindle,if its the washing machine is it just cold mains feed or hot and cold,could be a faulty valve in washing machine ,but check pipe works is secured aswell...

Will do, but will secure the 1/4 inch pipes to/from the water filter first  :y
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« Reply #11 on: 15 April 2012, 19:46:38 »

I dont suffer from that problem and i have quite high pressure.

Surely finding the pipe thats 'rattling' about and clamping it down so it carnt move must be a cheaper fix.

Thinking about it, the pipe that is doing the rattling is one of those 1/4 flexible ones which connects to the fridge to provide cooled drinking water & ice. I'll have to see if there is a way of securing it a bit - which may be a problem as the pipe has to be accessible to replace the in-line filter which needs replacing every year or so. Food for thought though - thanks  :y.

Perhaps a cable tie or a wire tie to fix it to part of the back of the fridge would to the job......

God idea - thanks
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Re: Stopping water hammer .............
« Reply #12 on: 15 April 2012, 19:59:19 »

I can't help you Rob but don't you mean WATER TORTURE from your daughter. ;D ;D ;D

By the way what did you do about her car seat?

Still under discussion. New seat cover is still available via Andy C, but @ £118 + Vat it seems a lot to spend on a Corsa which is starting to fray around the edges.  :'(

Blimey!! That seems a bit steep, is that for the complete set, back and seat? If it's the complete set then just get the seat base cover, I know it might look a bit odd to start with but it soon blends in mate.
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Re: Stopping water hammer .............
« Reply #13 on: 15 April 2012, 20:10:19 »

I can't help you Rob but don't you mean WATER TORTURE from your daughter. ;D ;D ;D

By the way what did you do about her car seat?

Still under discussion. New seat cover is still available via Andy C, but @ £118 + Vat it seems a lot to spend on a Corsa which is starting to fray around the edges.  :'(

Blimey!! That seems a bit steep, is that for the complete set, back and seat? If it's the complete set then just get the seat base cover, I know it might look a bit odd to start with but it soon blends in mate.

A mate recently checked the price of a full set of covers for his NSX which was starting to look a little shabby. At almost £6K, it would have been cheaper to pay someone to retrim the entire car! The leather would have been better quality too.
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OOMV6

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Re: Stopping water hammer .............
« Reply #14 on: 15 April 2012, 20:17:47 »

its trapped air,try holding your hand over tap and turn on trying not to let the water out,also try closing the stop cock down about to slow pressure down.

No it isn't. My plumber mate has told me it's caused by the momentum of the flowing water which has to stop instantly.

That may be so, but if the pipes are held securely it would not do it ... otherwise ALL the pipes in the house would do it, as they are under the same stop / start pressure. So you need to get them held in place IMO
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