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[Nickbat]

UKIP have overtaken the LibDems in two opinion polls in just two days.

Oddly. the latest one has Conservative 32%, Labour 35%, LibDem 9%, Others 22%. It's only when you look at Others you see that UKIP has 10%!!

I think UKIP are definitely on the rise.

[PhilRich]

Tbh Nick, I can't understand why it's only 10% The rest are a dead loss and I personally reckon UKIP are a viable alternative.

[Sir Tigger KC]

It's probably because they're seen as a one policy party.... I generally support their policy's on the EU, but ask me about their views on education, health, defence, welfare, environment etc and I wouldn't have a clue!!    Which I reckon means they're doing really well to get 10%!! 

[albitz]

Here you go Tigger,you can satisfy your curiosity now.
http://www.ukip.org/

[Sir Tigger KC]

Thanks Albs, nice bit of bedtime reading!!!    I'm sure they would appeal to a broad section of society if they publicised their manifesto more! 

[albitz]

Difficult to compete with the others due to the others having a lot more funding and (particularily with Labour) a tame media.

[omega3000]

http://www.ukip.org/ bookmarked 

[cleggy]

Vote UKIP I do

[Rods2]

I hope they are contesting many council seats on May 1st as that will be interesting. Hopefully they will get lots of seats and publicity. 

On the Telegraph blogs, the amount of Conservatives who are defecting / defected to UKIP is growing by the day, many were active Conservative party members, who will hopefully do the same for UKIP now to spread the message further on the street. 

There is the beginnings of a backlash against the ConDems where they are seen as NuLabour Lite, with CaMoron mimicking Phony Blairs style, spin and lack of substance.

Like haven't a clue NuLabour the Condem are transfixed on minority rights and "fairness" (a meaningless term) where it is the Economy Stupid. Like NuLabour their idea of equality is an equality of poverty for us plebs while they have got their snouts firmly in the trough. 

Taxes will continue to rise until they have gone from 38% of GNP to 45% to reduce their budget deficit, where they won't touch useless vital spending like overseas aid, including £200m per year to the mad woman President in Argentina. 

[Varche]

I hope they are contesting many council seats on May 1st as that will be interesting. Hopefully they will get lots of seats and publicity. 

On the Telegraph blogs, the amount of Conservatives who are defecting / defected to UKIP is growing by the day, many were active Conservative party members, who will hopefully do the same for UKIP now to spread the message further on the street. 

There is the beginnings of a backlash against the ConDems where they are seen as NuLabour Lite, with CaMoron mimicking Phony Blairs style, spin and lack of substance.

Like haven't a clue NuLabour the Condem are transfixed on minority rights and "fairness" (a meaningless term) where it is the Economy Stupid. Like NuLabour their idea of equality is an equality of poverty for us plebs while they have got their snouts firmly in the trough. 

Taxes will continue to rise until they have gone from 38% of GNP to 45% to reduce their budget deficit, where they won't touch useless vital spending like overseas aid, including £200m per year to the mad woman President in Argentina. 

 

[bootie]

I hope they are contesting many council seats on May 1st as that will be interesting. Hopefully they will get lots of seats and publicity. 

On the Telegraph blogs, the amount of Conservatives who are defecting / defected to UKIP is growing by the day, many were active Conservative party members, who will hopefully do the same for UKIP now to spread the message further on the street. 

There is the beginnings of a backlash against the ConDems where they are seen as NuLabour Lite, with CaMoron mimicking Phony Blairs style, spin and lack of substance.

Like haven't a clue NuLabour the Condem are transfixed on minority rights and "fairness" (a meaningless term) where it is the Economy Stupid. Like NuLabour their idea of equality is an equality of poverty for us plebs while they have got their snouts firmly in the trough. 

Taxes will continue to rise until they have gone from 38% of GNP to 45% to reduce their budget deficit, where they won't touch useless vital spending like overseas aid, including £200m per year to the mad woman President in Argentina. 

 

Good grief do we really give them (her) that much?!!!!!

was '82 a waste of time then?  That would go a long way to re-habilitate some of the guys and girls that served down there and didn't come back fully compos mentis, but I guess no one should mention that sort of thing anymore...

Lack of moral fortitude, I believe it used to be called.

[Dishevelled Den]

Political groups need strong charismatic leadership to make an impression on the voting public and in this regard, with Nigel at the helm, UKIP will fail to capitalise on the current state of dissatisfaction being shown across the country at the obvious apathy and incompetence evident amongst many of the self serving mainstream politicians purporting to represent us.

Nigel has fed off the EU teat for too long now – to the extent that he is largely unknown (as a political force) here in the UK.

He can certainly taunt the trolls in Brussels with clever rhetoric and flamboyant delivery - but has he any substance to deliver leadership to a party ready to confront the bread and butter issues we crave to be addressed here at home?  I would suggest he doesn’t.

Until there are some big hitters ready to swell the ranks of a UKIP being directed by a recognisably forceful and competent leader it will, in my view, fail to gain the traction necessary to make any real difference.

The front line in the coming battle for the future wellbeing of this country lies not in ‘Brussels’ or environs but within the curtilage of the Palace of Westminster and in every regional assembly and council within the borders of the United Kingdom.

 In recognising this, I submit that Farage and like individuals are working to an ill prepared and ineffective agenda – all the while collecting a handsome stipend for doing so. 

[Nickbat]

Political groups need strong charismatic leadership to make an impression on the voting public and in this regard, with Nigel at the helm, UKIP will fail to capitalise on the current state of dissatisfaction being shown across the country at the obvious apathy and incompetence evident amongst many of the self serving mainstream politicians purporting to represent us.

Nigel has fed off the EU teat for too long now – to the extent that he is largely unknown (as a political force) here in the UK.

He can certainly taunt the trolls in Brussels with clever rhetoric and flamboyant delivery - but has he any substance to deliver leadership to a party ready to confront the bread and butter issues we crave to be addressed here at home?  I would suggest he doesn’t.

Until there are some big hitters ready to swell the ranks of a UKIP being directed by a recognisably forceful and competent leader it will, in my view, fail to gain the traction necessary to make any real difference.

The front line in the coming battle for the future wellbeing of this country lies not in ‘Brussels’ or environs but within the curtilage of the Palace of Westminster and in every regional assembly and council within the borders of the United Kingdom.

 In recognising this, I submit that Farage and like individuals are working to an ill prepared and ineffective agenda – all the while collecting a handsome stipend for doing so.

Not often I vehemently disagree with you Den, but I do on this occasion. Yes, he is an MEP and, as such, receives £85k per annum, less than many headteachers and GPs - and certainly less than he could have earned had he continued in business rather than politics. So, should he have refused to accept a stipend and lived on nothing? Or should he have refused to sit as an MEP, thus allowing the socialist groups free rein in the Parliament without being harangued??? 

If you read the UKIP manifesto, it is neither ill-prepared nor ineffective (as shown by their rise in the polls – a fact that will be covered on Newsnight tonight). Inasmuch as people say they have no strength amongst their team, one need only consider that they have, for example, a foremost economist in the shape of Prof. Tim Congden - for whom some years ago I edited a piece (and I can assure you he's nobody's fool!).

In any event, I think it highly likely that some senior Tories will jump ship soon and swell the UKIP ranks.

Overall, I believe that the rise of UKIP is capturing the electorate's imagination at a time when there is general disillusion with the ConLabLib political class. Farage believes that it is the rise of the political class in Westminster, as much as the EU legislature, which lies at the heart of our problems. He sees the recruitment of politicians who have experienced real life, not internship in party HQs. On that point no one can possibly argue, IMHO.     

[geoffr70]

I vote UKIP, a true euro sceptic conservative ideology at heart

[Dishevelled Den]

Not often I vehemently disagree with you Den, but I do on this occasion. Yes, he is an MEP and, as such, receives £85k per annum, less than many headteachers and GPs - and certainly less than he could have earned had he continued in business rather than politics. So, should he have refused to accept a stipend and lived on nothing? Or should he have refused to sit as an MEP, thus allowing the socialist groups free rein in the Parliament without being harangued??? 

If you read the UKIP manifesto, it is neither ill-prepared nor ineffective (as shown by their rise in the polls – a fact that will be covered on Newsnight tonight). Inasmuch as people say they have no strength amongst their team, one need only consider that they have, for example, a foremost economist in the shape of Prof. Tim Congden - for whom some years ago I edited a piece (and I can assure you he's nobody's fool!).

In any event, I think it highly likely that some senior Tories will jump ship soon and swell the UKIP ranks.

Overall, I believe that the rise of UKIP is capturing the electorate's imagination at a time when there is general disillusion with the ConLabLib political class. Farage believes that it is the rise of the political class in Westminster, as much as the EU legislature, which lies at the heart of our problems. He sees the recruitment of politicians who have experienced real life, not internship in party HQs. On that point no one can possibly argue, IMHO.     
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Not often I vehemently disagree with you Den

That's all right Nick - think nothing of it.

The thing exercising my mind is the dismal performance of the party within the UK since 1994 and under Farage’s stewardship - especially in the elections to the Sovereign Parliament - given that they have so many people elected to the very Parliament they complain so much about - a parliamentary machine where no amount of nay-saying, obstruction, obfuscation, stunts or verbal fireworks will make one iota of difference to that distasteful behemoth’s genetic requirement to march to its own beat no matter what the voters say.

The UKIP needs to have people at Westminster - not queuing up to board the Brussels 'gravy train'.  Insofar as opinion polls are concerned, the only the figures of consequence will be those of people duly elected and ready to take their seats not only at Westminster but in council chambers across the land.

The fight lies within these shores not in Europe