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[bored bigyin54]

as you can see not everyone can buy from vx stealers some off us cant affored vx prices we keep our cars going on a shoe string well i have never had trouble with patten parts .each to what you can buy at the time

Very true Ralf, but if everyone deleted their account when they were advised of the pitfalls with using certain pattern parts the Oof membership would deplete quite rapidly.
If people do not wish to accept advice from members who have experienced problems with pattern parts, don`t post seemples

i agree rob but some patten parts are not bad 

[feeutfo]

Completely pointless posting if steadfastly determind to ignore advice. Why ask if buying anyway..?

For anyone else reading, it's important to understand the concept of "false economy" when buying pattern parts IMO. Cam cover gaskets for omega are absolutely a prime example.
 In order to get pattern gaskets to last as long as GM genuine from a dealer only, you'll need to replace them, at absolute best, every 6 months. Genuine will last years up to 90k ish.

Ignoring labour charges, that makes pattern gaskets alone extremely expensive. Especially considering the damage failed gaskets can cause to the ignition system.


We have had numerous members come on complaining thier gaskets have failed within months of fitting, only to find they fitted pattern and not genuine. Don't be a mug, vx only!

[feeutfo]

as you can see not everyone can buy from vx stealers some off us cant affored vx prices we keep our cars going on a shoe string well i have never had trouble with patten parts .each to what you can buy at the time

Very true Ralf, but if everyone deleted their account when they were advised of the pitfalls with using certain pattern parts the Oof membership would deplete quite rapidly.
If people do not wish to accept advice from members who have experienced problems with pattern parts, don`t post seemples

i agree rob but some patten parts are not bad 

Clearly we are talking about a specific part.

[bored bigyin54]

Completely pointless posting if steadfastly determind to ignore advice. Why ask if buying anyway..?

For anyone else reading, it's important to understand the concept of "false economy" when buying pattern parts IMO. Cam cover gaskets for omega are absolutely a prime example.
 In order to get pattern gaskets to last as long as GM genuine from a dealer only, you'll need to replace them, at absolute best, every 6 months. Genuine will last years up to 90k ish.

Ignoring labour charges, that makes pattern gaskets alone extremely expensive. Especially considering the damage failed gaskets can cause to the ignition system.


We have had numerous members come on complaining thier gaskets have failed within months of fitting, only to find they fitted pattern and not genuine. Don't be a mug, vx only!

its ok if vx drop their prices and not rip us off  and their is parts you can only buy from vx thats the only time i go to vx

[feeutfo]

Completely pointless posting if steadfastly determind to ignore advice. Why ask if buying anyway..?

For anyone else reading, it's important to understand the concept of "false economy" when buying pattern parts IMO. Cam cover gaskets for omega are absolutely a prime example.
 In order to get pattern gaskets to last as long as GM genuine from a dealer only, you'll need to replace them, at absolute best, every 6 months. Genuine will last years up to 90k ish.

Ignoring labour charges, that makes pattern gaskets alone extremely expensive. Especially considering the damage failed gaskets can cause to the ignition system.


We have had numerous members come on complaining thier gaskets have failed within months of fitting, only to find they fitted pattern and not genuine. Don't be a mug, vx only!

its ok if vx drop their prices and not rip us off 

You need to be able to see life from others view point. Why should vx drop thier prices when nobody else can make them reliably...?

Don't get me wrong, they ain't cheap, but it is without doubt the cheapest repair.

[bored bigyin54]

Completely pointless posting if steadfastly determind to ignore advice. Why ask if buying anyway..?

For anyone else reading, it's important to understand the concept of "false economy" when buying pattern parts IMO. Cam cover gaskets for omega are absolutely a prime example.
 In order to get pattern gaskets to last as long as GM genuine from a dealer only, you'll need to replace them, at absolute best, every 6 months. Genuine will last years up to 90k ish.

Ignoring labour charges, that makes pattern gaskets alone extremely expensive. Especially considering the damage failed gaskets can cause to the ignition system.


We have had numerous members come on complaining thier gaskets have failed within months of fitting, only to find they fitted pattern and not genuine. Don't be a mug, vx only!

its ok if vx drop their prices and not rip us off 

You need to be able to see life from others view point. Why should vx drop thier prices when nobody else can make them reliably...?

Don't get me wrong, they ain't cheap, but it is without doubt the cheapest repair.

not always  not when you havent got the money to pay vx prices

[feeutfo]

Completely pointless posting if steadfastly determind to ignore advice. Why ask if buying anyway..?

For anyone else reading, it's important to understand the concept of "false economy" when buying pattern parts IMO. Cam cover gaskets for omega are absolutely a prime example.
 In order to get pattern gaskets to last as long as GM genuine from a dealer only, you'll need to replace them, at absolute best, every 6 months. Genuine will last years up to 90k ish.

Ignoring labour charges, that makes pattern gaskets alone extremely expensive. Especially considering the damage failed gaskets can cause to the ignition system.


We have had numerous members come on complaining thier gaskets have failed within months of fitting, only to find they fitted pattern and not genuine. Don't be a mug, vx only!

its ok if vx drop their prices and not rip us off 

You need to be able to see life from others view point. Why should vx drop thier prices when nobody else can make them reliably...?

Don't get me wrong, they ain't cheap, but it is without doubt the cheapest repair.

not always 

...I think you'll find, given the op's input, that the thread relates to cam cover gaskets, yes?

[feeutfo]

Let me put it another way.

Say you come on here Ralph, asking advice on what cam cover gaskets to use. And I reply use pattern they are far cheaper than geniuine.

You fit them, or possibly pay someone to do the job which may very well include replacing the ignition system due the oil leaked from the previous set, and 3 months later you start getting misfires again.

You come back on here bemoaning my advice, and rightly so, but you still have to then fit genuine gaskets and replace the ignition parts that might be damaged. See how much money you've saved then!

[jonny2112]

My own experience is that I didn't even know what the gaskets were, or why there was oil in the plug wells. Left the car into a recommended mechanic who 'fixed' it. Less than three months later there was more oil in the wells than in the sump. I was cross, but found OOF and ended up sorting it out myself, with genuine parts.
I appreciate there are a lot of variables in my particular case, but for me it's 'once bitten, twice shy' with regard to the cam covers.

[tunnie]

as you can see not everyone can buy from vx stealers some off us cant affored vx prices we keep our cars going on a shoe string well i have never had trouble with patten parts .each to what you can buy at the time

Very true Ralf, but if everyone deleted their account when they were advised of the pitfalls with using certain pattern parts the Oof membership would deplete quite rapidly.
If people do not wish to accept advice from members who have experienced problems with pattern parts, don`t post seemples

i agree rob but some patten parts are not bad 

We are talking cam cover gaskets here, not exhausts or cambelts.

If you are DIY'ing your gaskets, the amount of effort & time spent changing them (especially on a V6) its a job you only want to do once!

I gave clear advice, don't see why he got the hump  I get the feeling the OP had already purchased those gaskets!

[jonny2112]

Does seem a little strange 

[Big_Al]

Heres my twopence worth on this one  . . .

2 very respected & knowledgeable members answered the OP's original  question . He chose to ignore their answers & asked the same question again,   that being  " but are these OK? "

While it maybe not be 100% of the members on here think that genuine VX cam cover gaskets   is the only way to go . . it is the vast majority.

I cannot understand why the OP had to ask the question again . .   he had already been told . . .  maybe he thought they (Tunnie & Rob ) would change their minds 

This forum supplies top quality, experience related information on Omegas to anyone who needs advice .

 If that advice is shunned then I don't think anyone on here should be losing any sleep over this particular instance

  or this particular member

[dbug]

as you can see not everyone can buy from vx stealers some off us cant affored vx prices we keep our cars going on a shoe string well i have never had trouble with patten parts .each to what you can buy at the time

Very true Ralf, but if everyone deleted their account when they were advised of the pitfalls with using certain pattern parts the Oof membership would deplete quite rapidly.
If people do not wish to accept advice from members who have experienced problems with pattern parts, don`t post seemples

i agree rob but some patten parts are not bad 

We are talking cam cover gaskets here, not exhausts or cambelts.

If you are DIY'ing your gaskets, the amount of effort & time spent changing them (especially on a V6) its a job you only want to do once!

I gave clear advice, don't see why he got the hump  I get the feeling the OP had already purchased those gaskets!

Suggest he got the hump because of the manner of your reply.

You didn't in fact answer his question which was "will these ones be ok or they the wrong ones." - just said "Do not buy pattern".  If you had looked at the link the seller posted, although the seller does't actually state they are genuine VX, he does strongly infer so and quotes Vx part numbers.  Surely it would have been more helpful to answer the guys question and advise these were not genune Vx but pattern and therefore not to use (as RobG tried to do).

Because his question went effectively unanswered the guy repeated his question which Albs answered, and you then responded as if the guy was a moron.  He was genuinely asking for help because he hadn't the experience of other members.  Not the way to treat a "Newbie" IMO, but definitely the way to lose members

[feeutfo]

Don't agree.

[tunnie]

as you can see not everyone can buy from vx stealers some off us cant affored vx prices we keep our cars going on a shoe string well i have never had trouble with patten parts .each to what you can buy at the time

Very true Ralf, but if everyone deleted their account when they were advised of the pitfalls with using certain pattern parts the Oof membership would deplete quite rapidly.
If people do not wish to accept advice from members who have experienced problems with pattern parts, don`t post seemples

i agree rob but some patten parts are not bad 

We are talking cam cover gaskets here, not exhausts or cambelts.

If you are DIY'ing your gaskets, the amount of effort & time spent changing them (especially on a V6) its a job you only want to do once!

I gave clear advice, don't see why he got the hump  I get the feeling the OP had already purchased those gaskets!

Suggest he got the hump because of the manner of your reply.

You didn't in fact answer his question which was "will these ones be ok or they the wrong ones." - just said "Do not buy pattern". If you had looked at the link the seller posted, although the seller does't actually state they are genuine VX, he does strongly infer so and quotes Vx part numbers.  Surely it would have been more helpful to answer the guys question and advise these were not genune Vx but pattern and therefore not to use (as RobG tried to do).

Because his question went effectively unanswered the guy repeated his question which Albs answered, and you then responded as if the guy was a moron.  He was genuinely asking for help because he hadn't the experience of other members.  Not the way to treat a "Newbie" IMO, but definitely the way to lose members

How do you know I did not look at it? Do you have access to my logs?

I did click the link, I did not bother to read the auction, because at £16 they are not going to be genuine are they?

Also what did Rob say just after me?

Gaskets the same but those in your link are not the genuine ones that VX use.

His question was answered, I bet he had just already bought them and didn't like what we had to say.