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[tunnie]

What some have said here time and again, is that yes the gaskets are more for genuine, but they last a lot longer.

Pattern ones have been known to last just weeks, they will pish out out into plugs, cook them and left unchecked will kill HT leads as well.

So if you are doing it yourself, save up that little bit more for genuine gaskets. Otherwise a few weeks down the line you will be changing it all again, said it time and time again, pattern gaskets are false economy. You pay less now, but over the course of time, it will cost you more.

Seen time and again people ignore this, buy pattern then post up later asking why they are leaking 

[bored bigyin54]

and all i said not all can buy vx parts

Agree! and try being down this part of the planet, i had to make my (cover) gaskets by hand as you just cant buy them here from the dealer, well you can they will import them inof course but to give you an idea a new DIS pack here is around 400pound....

you are somewhere warm mate

[feeutfo]

and all i said not all can buy vx parts

Agree! and try being down this part of the planet, i had to make my (cover) gaskets by hand as you just cant buy them here from the dealer, well you can they will import them inof course but to give you an idea a new DIS pack here is around 400pound....

Maybe so, and you have my sympathys, but £400.... I reckon pattern cc gaskets could potentially cost an owner that much, given thier failure rate v genuine, when adding in labour and coil pack or ht lead damage.

Pm andyc for a price maybe...? You'll find him in recomended suppliers.

[Steve B]

ahhhhhhhhh   so oil in the hole screws up dispack too does it..didnt no that

[derek89]

Oh Derek, don't give up now. It was just getting interesting.

Sorry Chris,i thought you was getting bored so i went over to general chat,i didn't know Welsh habits were so interesting

[dbug]

Well this has really warmed up since I last posted on this topic!!

Whilst I can afford to buy some of the expensive genuine Vx parts recommended on OOF, I also accept that a number of members struggle financially to keep their Omegas on the roads.  Whilst OOF is good at identifying those cheaper pattern parts that work ok on Omegas (water pumps, track rod ends etc), there are occasions where we should accept that some members may find cheaper alternatives to the recommended genuine Vx components.  We should not necessarily mock this but surely encourage it as ultimately a cheap working alternative may be identified that saves us all money!

Interestingly the cam cover gaskets the OP originally posted about that were supplied by lmfvauxhall, were made by ELRING, a well respected German manufacturer of gaskets and seals, and also an OEM supplier to a number of car manufacturers.  But due to the "I did click the link, I did not bother to read the auction" attitute that fact probably wouldn't register!!

I seem to remember that a well respected mobile Omega mechanic on here - JamesV6CDX - posted positively about the use of certain non-Vx supplied cam cover gaskets (Elring?).  Perhaps James would be good enough to add his comments.

 

[feeutfo]

Yes , James, if you will...


My recollection is, these where mentioned mistakenly by somebody who thought they where the genuine article. They are not.
"Greiner" is marked on the oe items.

Personally, given coil pacs are £70 to £120 a side if it all goes tits up, I really don't think it's worth the risk.

[dbug]

Yes , James, if you will...


My recollection is, these where mentioned mistakenly by somebody who thought they where the genuine article. They are not.
"Greiner" is marked on the oe items.

Personally, given coil pacs are £70 to £120 a side if it all goes tits up, I really don't think it's worth the risk.

Chris - my recollection is the same as your re "Greiner" on oems - but my recollection re James was that he had found a non-oem V6 cam cover gasket that seemed to perform as oems (and was cheaper) - may have been Elring one, not 100% sure.

Personally I support the recommendation re the use of OEM V6 cam cover gaskets and o-rings (use 'em myself), just get miffed at the way some of the senior (or "junior" in this case) members try to give the impression they are better than other members and talk down to them (look for the post where spelling mistakes of a dyslexic member are criticised http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=102207.0 - Juvenile at best!)

Will wait for James to comment re the gaskets - may be a cash saver

[doz]

I think it was me who found the Elring ones. I've not had a chance to fit them (been busy with the old VW) but I will in the next week or so.

[feeutfo]

Yes , James, if you will...


My recollection is, these where mentioned mistakenly by somebody who thought they where the genuine article. They are not.
"Greiner" is marked on the oe items.

Personally, given coil pacs are £70 to £120 a side if it all goes tits up, I really don't think it's worth the risk.

Chris - my recollection is the same as your re "Greiner" on oems - but my recollection re James was that he had found a non-oem V6 cam cover gasket that seemed to perform as oems (and was cheaper) - may have been Elring one, not 100% sure.

Personally I support the recommendation re the use of OEM V6 cam cover gaskets and o-rings (use 'em myself), just get miffed at the way some of the senior (or "junior" in this case) members try to give the impression they are better than other members and talk down to them (look for the post where spelling mistakes of a dyslexic member are criticised http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=102207.0 - Juvenile at best!)

Will wait for James to comment re the gaskets - may be a cash saver

Dbug, if I coud be bothered to look, I'm fairly sure I coud find similar abruptness from yourself. Learning difficulties or not, cash flow difficulties or not, the advice stands. As you've just said. How long ago was James's post? More than 90,000miles ago? Then how can he know they will outlast oe? ( assuming we accept oe last 90k, just an example)

Ralph has, IMO, taken some delight in bating members here, and shouldn't be too suprised if people loose patience... IMO.

But then, that's forum life I guess. As suggested, deal with it. It's a forum, with opinions. Some of those opinions are just plane wrong.

Bit like every single possible knock from front suspension can only ever be drop links, and that copper slip causes brake squeal.

[Elite_L0ver]

Yes , James, if you will...


My recollection is, these where mentioned mistakenly by somebody who thought they where the genuine article. They are not.
"Greiner" is marked on the oe items.

Personally, given coil pacs are £70 to £120 a side if it all goes tits up, I really don't think it's worth the risk.

Chris - my recollection is the same as your re "Greiner" on oems - but my recollection re James was that he had found a non-oem V6 cam cover gasket that seemed to perform as oems (and was cheaper) - may have been Elring one, not 100% sure.

Personally I support the recommendation re the use of OEM V6 cam cover gaskets and o-rings (use 'em myself), just get miffed at the way some of the senior (or "junior" in this case) members try to give the impression they are better than other members and talk down to them (look for the post where spelling mistakes of a dyslexic member are criticised http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/index.php?topic=102207.0 - Juvenile at best!)

Will wait for James to comment re the gaskets - may be a cash saver

Yep remember reading that one felt sorry for bloke be like someone taking the pi33 out of me fir having one and half arms because in not the same as everyone else but you can see my disability and people won't because you can see it but dislyxer because you cannot see it its some how different AND ITS WRONG sorry but that's MHO

Yeah come on James where are you with the answer

[Elite_L0ver]

I think it was me who found the Elring ones. I've not had a chance to fit them (been busy with the old VW) but I will in the next week or so.

Thought she would be done by now weathers great............................. For camping

Plus I think we need the answer to elring gaskets

[dbug]

I think it was me who found the Elring ones. I've not had a chance to fit them (been busy with the old VW) but I will in the next week or so.

No doubt you'll report back on their performance in 90K miles time

Suggest you get motoring and keep motoring mate till you drop to speed up the process!! 

Personally I'd be happy if pattern at half the price lasted half the mileage.

[feeutfo]

They don't though, that's the point

[dbug]

They don't though, that's the point

Thats why I said "I'd be happy if "