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[Tonka.]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-18247109   

[ZacVegas]

What's the point, if you don't speed you won't get caught

[omega3000]

What's the point, if you don't speed you won't get caught

He must have been caught  Revenge attack but bit him in the a$$

[Dishevelled Den]

What's the point, if you don't speed you won't get caught

 Whether or not this attack by the Horncastle man was motivated by revenge for a previous detection, or a surfeit of alcohol, doesn't really address the very legitimate question of policing by these remote means.

There is undoubtedly a need for such deterrents, but it seems that these cameras are being used to police on the cheap - and to generate revenue - every bit as much as monitoring the speed of vehicles in controlled areas.

The former two points, in my view, are wrong-headed as the gulf between the police and public is likely to be widened to the extent that the essential compact between the two risks being diluted to an unacceptable level by the over reliance on such technology.

It’s also concerning to find many road users paying more attention to their speedometers rather than the road conditions they’re driving into and, in such cases, the end result of such tendencies must render the dependence for speed control by these the ludicrously named ‘safety cameras’ to be anything but safe.

The police need to be out on the ground detecting offences and dealing with people as they find them and less emphasis should be placed on the ruthlessly efficient but impersonal and unforgiving camera unit used solely as a means to help prosecute offenders.

There are few of us who can adhere to the letter of every regulation or law every time we set off on a journey and to find our every move monitored in this fashion, and be ambivalent about it, simply paves the way for increased state control in how we go about our day to day business.

[waspy]

Good on him. Shame he got caught. I've never agreed with cameras & I never will.
I've always said that the first one to give me ticket will suffer damage in some way.
Don't slate me or say I'm wrong, because that is how I feel & I feel very strongly about it.
They're a cop out (no pun intended). They don't make our roads safer. The old fashioned way of a copper with a hand held divice is a fairer & better way, they are human & will listen to you, then make a decision. A warning is more likley to slow people down & make them think, but costs too much.

[Martian]

They don't make our roads safer.

Bang on the money Pete 

All a camera detects is the vehicle breaching a preset velocity.
It doesn't detect the pisshead, it doesn't detect the unlicensed, it doesn't detect the uninsured, etc, etc.

If anything, policing by camera has simply made it easier for the illegal drivers to get away with what they do.

[OOMV6]

Good on him. Shame he got caught. I've never agreed with cameras & I never will.
I've always said that the first one to give me ticket will suffer damage in some way.
Don't slate me or say I'm wrong, because that is how I feel & I feel very strongly about it.
They're a cop out (no pun intended). They don't make our roads safer. The old fashioned way of a copper with a hand held divice is a fairer & better way, they are human & will listen to you, then make a decision. A warning is more likley to slow people down & make them think, but costs too much.

But surely if you have broken the law, i.e. speeding, then you deserve a fine. I don't see how a cop with a hand held device is fairer. There is no excuse for exceeding the speed limit. Yes, I have been known to do it, I am no angel, and run the risk, but that's my choice. Whether I get caught by PC Plod or a fixed camera, I cannot see the difference. The offence is the offence and the fine, the fine.

As for making roads safer, maybe not. But a cop with a handheld unit doesn't change that. People see either of the two of them and jam on the brakes, potentially causing a hazard.

[Andy B]

What's the point, if you don't speed you won't get caught

So ....how often do you polish your halo then? It must be great living in a perfect world! 

[astroblaster]

I thought these speed cameras were supposed to be put at accident black spots, not stuck up willy nilly to make money for the police or government

[Jukeboxnut]

Many of the speed cameras I see are deliberately sited on hills or on good straight roads with unrealistically low speed limits, these can only be there to generate money.  Some areas, especially Bournemouth where my daughter lives, are simply infestested with the things.  I personally detest them so I bought a Road Angel 10 years ago and this has saved my licence.  As said before look at the road not the speedometer.

[Andy B]

Many of the speed cameras I see are deliberately sited on hills or on good straight roads with unrealistically low speed limits, these can only be there to generate money.  Some areas, especially Bournemouth where my daughter lives, are simply infestested with the things.  I personally detest them so I bought a Road Angel 10 years ago and this has saved my licence.  As said before look at the road not the speedometer.

Agreed!

[OOMV6]

Many of the speed cameras I see are deliberately sited on hills or on good straight roads with unrealistically low speed limits, these can only be there to generate money.  Some areas, especially Bournemouth where my daughter lives, are simply infestested with the things.  I personally detest them so I bought a Road Angel 10 years ago and this has saved my licence. As said before look at the road not the speedometer.

Hey, if you cannot manage both, then ......hmm.... not sure how to put this politely. Well, let's just say you should be able to. 

[Martian]

Many of the speed cameras I see are deliberately sited on hills or on good straight roads with unrealistically low speed limits, these can only be there to generate money.  Some areas, especially Bournemouth where my daughter lives, are simply infestested with the things.  I personally detest them so I bought a Road Angel 10 years ago and this has saved my licence. As said before look at the road not the speedometer.

Hey, if you cannot manage both, then ......hmm.... not sure how to put this politely. Well, let's just say you should be able to. 

The human eye cannot focus on 2 seperate objects simultaneously, and it takes just over 1 second to remove your eyes from the road, focus on the speedo, and then refocus back on the road again.
1 second at 30mph = a distance of approx 42ft.......that's quite a distance to not have your eyes where they should be.

[Kevin Wood]

I you've got time to look at the speedo you're not even trying.

[albitz]

Good on him. Shame he got caught. I've never agreed with cameras & I never will.
I've always said that the first one to give me ticket will suffer damage in some way.
Don't slate me or say I'm wrong, because that is how I feel & I feel very strongly about it.
They're a cop out (no pun intended). They don't make our roads safer. The old fashioned way of a copper with a hand held divice is a fairer & better way, they are human & will listen to you, then make a decision. A warning is more likley to slow people down & make them think, but costs too much.

But surely if you have broken the law, i.e. speeding, then you deserve a fine. I don't see how a cop with a hand held device is fairer. There is no excuse for exceeding the speed limit. Yes, I have been known to do it, I am no angel, and run the risk, but that's my choice. Whether I get caught by PC Plod or a fixed camera, I cannot see the difference. The offence is the offence and the fine, the fine.

As for making roads safer, maybe not. But a cop with a handheld unit doesn't change that. People see either of the two of them and jam on the brakes, potentially causing a hazard.

Because a given speed on given piece of road can be perfectly safe at 6am,but the same speed could be lethal at 6pm. An experienced intelligent cop can differentiate and act accordingly,a camera cant.