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[Rods2]

As it was a reconnaissance aircraft, was it on a test flight, as claimed, or probing Syrian defenses?

Did it enter Syrian airspace?

Was this a deliberate response by Syria as a warning to the West?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9352113/Syria-shot-down-Turkish-jet-in-international-airspace-claims-foreign-minister.html

Finally, deepest sympathies to the pilot's families and friends, where they are both missing.

[ozzycat]

 it was 5 miles in internatiol waters syria are trying to provoke turkey in to action to take the heat of but turkey went the right way and gone to un for suport then they will kick assads arse

[cem_devecioglu]

As it was a reconnaissance aircraft, was it on a test flight, as claimed, or probing Syrian defenses?

Did it enter Syrian airspace?

Was this a deliberate response by Syria as a warning to the West?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/9352113/Syria-shot-down-Turkish-jet-in-international-airspace-claims-foreign-minister.html

Finally, deepest sympathies to the pilot's families and friends, where they are both missing.

there are many questions that needs to be answered like yours Rods.. but the govt kept silence for some 8 hours after the incident..
 
first of all what was the reason that the plane entered Syria zone.. and who gave the order for what reason
 
Syria shot the plane ( and if they really shot as we are still not sure , the remains of the plane must be examined to be sure) without warning (as its claimed) ..  and I'm sure even they can shoot it, they cant determine the aircrafts origin..
 
if the timing of event and the dangerous game played by intelligency services of mutiple countries in that zone taken into account bad smells come into my nose..
 
one thing is definitely sure, thats not a reason for war..  and I think my country have this level of logic and experience from its long history despite the wrong efforts of some politicians
 
 
 
 

[tigers_gonads]

2 days ago, a syrian mig 21 defected with the upto date iff codes in his aircraft.

My guess is that the turks deceided to take a little flight to test the syrian air defences by popping across the border for a few seconds then heading back out to sea sharpish 

Sadly for them, they came up against the Sa22 point defence system which is about as good as you can get.

[cem_devecioglu]

2 days ago, a syrian mig 21 defected with the upto date iff codes in his aircraft.

My guess is that the turks deceided to take a little flight to test the syrian air defences by popping across the border for a few seconds then heading back out to sea sharpish 

Sadly for them, they came up against the Sa22 point defence system which is about as good as you can get.

sorry for my ignorance but whats an iff code ? 
 
testing the syrian air defence..     really bad move.. russians are backing syria.. no doubt they will have latest defence systems..
 

[henryd]

2 days ago, a syrian mig 21 defected with the upto date iff codes in his aircraft.

My guess is that the turks deceided to take a little flight to test the syrian air defences by popping across the border for a few seconds then heading back out to sea sharpish 

Sadly for them, they came up against the Sa22 point defence system which is about as good as you can get.

sorry for my ignorance but whats an iff code ? 
 
testing the syrian air defence..     really bad move.. russians are backing syria.. no doubt they will have latest defence systems..

Iff code is "Identification friend or foe"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identification_friend_or_foe

[Kevin Wood]

2 days ago, a syrian mig 21 defected with the upto date iff codes in his aircraft.

My guess is that the turks deceided to take a little flight to test the syrian air defences by popping across the border for a few seconds then heading back out to sea sharpish 

Sadly for them, they came up against the Sa22 point defence system which is about as good as you can get.

I smell the same rat. Hit about 13 miles outside Syrian airspace after infringing it. Doesn't take long for a F4 Phantom to cover 13 miles when it's running for cover.

[Rods2]

2 days ago, a syrian mig 21 defected with the upto date iff codes in his aircraft.

My guess is that the turks deceided to take a little flight to test the syrian air defences by popping across the border for a few seconds then heading back out to sea sharpish 

Sadly for them, they came up against the Sa22 point defence system which is about as good as you can get.

Looks like you are right as this has been added to the Wikipedia page of the SA-22.

"A Pantsir-S1 unit of the Syrian Armed Forces reportedly scored the first combat kill of the type by downing a Turkish Air Force RF-4E carrying out a reconnaissance flight over the Syrian coast near Latakia on 22 June 2012".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantsir-S1

[Varche]

There is something fishy about it that is for certain.

I put it down to war games. Russia, Nato, Syria - who knows. The rocket that downed the plane was no doubt fired by a third party..........

[cem_devecioglu]

2 days ago, a syrian mig 21 defected with the upto date iff codes in his aircraft.

My guess is that the turks deceided to take a little flight to test the syrian air defences by popping across the border for a few seconds then heading back out to sea sharpish 

Sadly for them, they came up against the Sa22 point defence system which is about as good as you can get.

sorry for my ignorance but whats an iff code ? 
 
testing the syrian air defence..     really bad move.. russians are backing syria.. no doubt they will have latest defence systems..

Iff code is "Identification friend or foe"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identification_friend_or_foe

thanks for that
 
seems my knowledge about military communication is "miserable"

[STMO123]

I wasn't sure exactly what had happened. It's good to know I can get the full picture on here   

[Rods2]

I wasn't sure exactly what had happened. It's good to know I can get the full picture on here   

Yep, we are all applying to work for MI5. 

[cem_devecioglu]

upto now, for all those years I have watched a bunch of incompetent , ignorant politicians which brought the country on its kness..
 
I wish all the sins and fires of hell rain on those who vote them

[cem_devecioglu]

ok.. after some series of events and the evidences on pilots bodies and jets parts I have concluded that the jet was shot down by an electromagnetic weapon .. which is definitly not the syrians job.. 
 
there were no rocket or shell traces on the jet parts and the bodies!
 
and it was a warning by the russians that the west cannot play alone

[tigers_gonads]

Em weapons do excist.

The yank F22 and the new F35 and potentally any aircraft or ground unit with a aesa system is capable of offensive electronic warfare but tbh, these toys are kept locked away for a rainy day when the big boys kick off 

With respect to the lads who fly even that modified version of the F4, I don't think the aircraft has any critical systems onboard which could cause it to go bang in mid flight.

Sadly, imho the Turkish goverment, just like all goverments have made total cocks out of themselfs in this instant 

Imo, they saw a chance to gain some infomation and it blew up in there faces and 2 crew members lost there lifes because of it 

Sadly, in cases like this goverments never tell the truth and always try to cover it up or drag somebody else / blame somebody else for there f*ckups 

Your goverment have maybe being taking leasons from the UK goverment on that score