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waspy

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Re: Nitrogen inflation
« Reply #15 on: 03 July 2012, 20:49:40 »

Right. Thanks for explaining that. So there's no danger of my tyres exploding when I drive to asda and take my doggie out. I mean, I sometimes go as fast as 38mph.

We can hope :P
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« Reply #16 on: 03 July 2012, 20:51:55 »

Right. Thanks for explaining that. So there's no danger of my tyres exploding when I drive to asda and take my doggie out. I mean, I sometimes go as fast as 38mph.

you not got your mobility skooter yet Steve

I go dirt-tracking with that at the weekend  :y

as im not working properly still I've been forced to attend the over 50s club at college. my first one is wed. Now do i wear a cardigan or a jump suit to attend  ;D ;D
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« Reply #17 on: 03 July 2012, 20:52:56 »

Right. Thanks for explaining that. So there's no danger of my tyres exploding when I drive to asda and take my doggie out. I mean, I sometimes go as fast as 38mph.

We can hope :P

didn't concordes tyre explode before it crashed?
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STMO123

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« Reply #18 on: 03 July 2012, 20:55:28 »

Right. Thanks for explaining that. So there's no danger of my tyres exploding when I drive to asda and take my doggie out. I mean, I sometimes go as fast as 38mph.

you not got your mobility skooter yet Steve

I go dirt-tracking with that at the weekend  :y

as im not working properly still I've been forced to attend the over 50s club at college. my first one is wed. Now do i wear a cardigan or a jump suit to attend  ;D ;D

Go naked. It woke a few of them up last time I did that.
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STMO123

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« Reply #19 on: 03 July 2012, 20:56:47 »

Right. Thanks for explaining that. So there's no danger of my tyres exploding when I drive to asda and take my doggie out. I mean, I sometimes go as fast as 38mph.

We can hope :P

didn't concordes tyre explode before it crashed?
Yeah. Pity you weren't on it.  ;D
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« Reply #20 on: 03 July 2012, 20:58:31 »

Right. Thanks for explaining that. So there's no danger of my tyres exploding when I drive to asda and take my doggie out. I mean, I sometimes go as fast as 38mph.

We can hope :P

didn't concordes tyre explode before it crashed?
Yeah. Pity you weren't on it.  ;D

you'd be gutted if anything happened to me. :-*
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STMO123

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« Reply #21 on: 03 July 2012, 20:59:59 »

Anyway, enough of this hilarity  ::) I think I'll tell them to just use air next time, save meself a couple of shillings  ;D
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« Reply #22 on: 03 July 2012, 21:02:21 »

Right. Thanks for explaining that. So there's no danger of my tyres exploding when I drive to asda and take my doggie out. I mean, I sometimes go as fast as 38mph.

We can hope :P

didn't concordes tyre explode before it crashed?
Yeah. Pity you weren't on it.  ;D

you'd be gutted if anything happened to me. :-*

Sorry Richie  :-[

I automatically thought it was Petra wot posted that.
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Re: Nitrogen inflation
« Reply #23 on: 03 July 2012, 21:03:23 »

My Dad had a camper done but the tyre place in Darlington would check and top up anytime without any further charges....... :y :y

Personally I thought it was a bit of a fad..... :D :D :D
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« Reply #24 on: 03 July 2012, 21:03:45 »

100% Nitrogen is used in aircraft tyres for several reasons :

No moisture: (1) moisture freezes at altitude at the lowest point of the wheel, and would cause massive out-of-balance if solid on touchdown.... if liquid it resists the start of rotation .. (2) It also causes corrosion.

Molecule size : Nitrogen molecules are large in comparison to oxygen and water molecules and so "seep" less thus maintaining a more stable pressure

Temperature change : the different compositions of normal air react to temperature change in different ways, thus a variable "mix" will give a variable response ... 100% nitrogen will be far more stable

An aircraft tyre is subject to tremendous temperature change ... at the end of the take off roll it is extremely hot having had to support the whole weight of the aircraft throughout its acceleration. At cruise it is extremely cold ... around -44 C .. at the end of the landing roll it is once again very hot, both from the weight and the action of the brakes. It also has to withstand almost instant acceleration from stationary to the rotations of 180mph (ish) on touchdown .....so stability is extremely important.

IMHO very few of those facts cross over to "normal" cars, although they may affect F1 cars somewhat more !!

So, again IMHO, a waste of time ... especially if, like me, your tyre pressures change frequently due to load .. :)

Good one Entwood.. :y
 
only one point I must correct, at a fix temperature ,volume and pressure , a fix number of moles of gases can exist (n) which has the fix coefficient r or R in the equation.. either a mixture or pure state..  there are some kinds of intermolecular forces that effect the gases taking space..  so mixtures volumetric behaviour with temperature wont be different than a pure one.. 
 
 
and must add, a tire inside can be accepted as a closed system (unless there is some hole) , but not heat isolated..
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STMO123

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« Reply #25 on: 03 July 2012, 21:08:07 »

What's the point in having nitrogen in just one tyre? Seems like a load of twaddle to me.
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cem_devecioglu

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« Reply #26 on: 03 July 2012, 21:10:08 »

What's the point in having nitrogen in just one tyre? Seems like a load of twaddle to me.

how you say "rip off" ;D
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STMO123

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« Reply #27 on: 03 July 2012, 21:11:38 »

That's what I thought Cem  :(
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STMO123

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« Reply #28 on: 03 July 2012, 21:17:56 »

Thinking about it, I would say it's less safe to have nitrogen in one front tyre than air in both.

I'm going to fire off a stiff letter.
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waspy

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« Reply #29 on: 03 July 2012, 21:22:19 »

Thinking about it, I would say it's less safe to have nitrogen in one front tyre than air in both.

I'm going to fire off a stiff letter.

There's nothing "stiff" about you any more Steve. Though sometime soon you will be for a few days ;D
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