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Assange embassy issues
« on: 16 August 2012, 10:44:13 »

Not intended as a debate on the rights and wrongs of what he is alleged to have done in his private and business life.

Does anyone else find the new found British attitude to embassies a little strange? My gut feeling is that we have been got at by the Americans who want him come hell and high water - the Swedish bit is just a sideshow to an end. They have probably had a team of people reading small print for weeks.

Anyway always assuming he is actually still in the embassy and didn't slip away during the Games I have two suggestions for him.

1. Leave in a diplomatic bag
2. Mrs V says the embassy could invite an eight woman Burkha clad deputation to visit the embassy and he could leave as one of them. ;D

 
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Re: Assange embassy issues
« Reply #1 on: 16 August 2012, 10:52:11 »

Don't worry. If our government considers itself justified in walking into a foreign embassy, sweeping aside diplomatic immunity and arresting people, I'm sure it would also be happy to extend that courtesy to all other countries in which we are similarly represented. :-X

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Re: Assange embassy issues
« Reply #2 on: 16 August 2012, 11:22:06 »

I dont give a monkeys what happens to Asange,but if they didnt go into the Libyan to apprehend the murderer of WPC Yvonne Fletcher I dont see how they can justify tearing up international embassy protocol for him.
The obvious drawback from a British point of view is that in the future any tin pot despotic regime will find it very easy to justify entering a British embassy in their country once we have done it.
At one time I wouldnt have taken the threat seriously at all.Surely a British govt. couldnt be so stupid ? Nowadays,it wouldnt surprise me at all tbh.
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Re: Assange embassy issues
« Reply #3 on: 16 August 2012, 12:09:07 »

I dont give a monkeys what happens to Asange,but if they didnt go into the Libyan to apprehend the murderer of WPC Yvonne Fletcher I dont see how they can justify tearing up international embassy protocol for him.
The obvious drawback from a British point of view is that in the future any tin pot despotic regime will find it very easy to justify entering a British embassy in their country once we have done it.
At one time I wouldnt have taken the threat seriously at all.Surely a British govt. couldnt be so stupid ? Nowadays,it wouldnt surprise me at all tbh.

agreed.. wont be different than opening the pandora box :-\
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Re: Assange embassy issues
« Reply #4 on: 16 August 2012, 12:13:05 »

I dont give a monkeys what happens to Asange,but if they didnt go into the Libyan to apprehend the murderer of WPC Yvonne Fletcher I dont see how they can justify tearing up international embassy protocol for him.
The obvious drawback from a British point of view is that in the future any tin pot despotic regime will find it very easy to justify entering a British embassy in their country once we have done it.
At one time I wouldnt have taken the threat seriously at all.Surely a British govt. couldnt be so stupid ? Nowadays,it wouldnt surprise me at all tbh.

The reason they couldn't go into the Libyan embassy was that they hadn't actually passed the law then (Yvonne Fletcher was murdered in 1984 and the legislation that allows us to enter foreign embassies was passed in 1987).  I believe that it was a direct result of the Libyan embassy situation that prompted the new act.
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Re: Assange embassy issues
« Reply #5 on: 16 August 2012, 13:55:46 »

The British, like everyone else, make it up as they go along. I've just heard on telly that we're quite entitled to enter the embassy as the Vienna convention wasn't meant to be used to protect fugitives in their own countries. Can you imagine the outcry  if the Chinese had gone into the American embassy to get back the dissident who was allowed to leave the country earlier this year.
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Re: Assange embassy issues
« Reply #6 on: 16 August 2012, 15:50:35 »

Has it been passed as a motion at the loony Libs conference yet.  ::) ::) ::)

Big can and worms comes to mind.

Even bigger can of worms will be when a Bin Larden, navy seals type of operation removes him from the embassy.  :o :o :o
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Re: Assange embassy issues
« Reply #7 on: 16 August 2012, 19:14:24 »

Of course it yet remains for him to leave this oppressive country in his attempt to seek freedom and the sun of plenty that is (apparently) Ecuador. :-X
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Re: Assange embassy issues
« Reply #8 on: 16 August 2012, 21:54:20 »

Has it been passed as a motion at the loony Libs conference yet.  ::) ::) ::)

Big can and worms comes to mind.

Even bigger can of worms will be when a Bin Larden, navy seals type of operation removes him from the embassy.  :o :o :o

Yep, all they need to do is just say he's been captured and the body disposed of.  No need for any kind of proof, none at all. Most will fall for it.    Simples !  ::) 

Edit: A forcefull approach would be worrying tho'.  :-\
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Re: Assange embassy issues
« Reply #9 on: 16 August 2012, 22:51:48 »

Of course it yet remains for him to leave this oppressive country in his attempt to seek freedom and the sun of plenty that is (apparently) Ecuador. :-X

Sweepstake on how many seconds he spends on their soil, should he escape, before moving on? ;D
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